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Old 05-25-2009, 06:59 PM   #1
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Talking PLCar and ALcar combo!

Alright I had a container of bulk PLcar and bulk container of ALcar and decided to replicate the results of studies like:


Carnitine versus androgen administration in the treatment of sexual dysfunction, depressed mood, and fatigue associated with male aging
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Cavallini G, Caracciolo S, Vitali G, Modenini F, Biagiotti G.
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Bologna, Italy.
Urology. 2004 Apr;63(4):641-6.

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OBJECTIVES: To To compare testosterone undecanoate versus propionyl-L-carnitine plus acetyl-L-carnitine and placebo in the treatment of male aging symptoms. METHODS: A total of 120 patients were randomized into three groups. The mean patient age was 66 years (range 60 to 74). Group 1 was given testosterone undecanoate 160 mg/day, the second group was given propionyl-L-carnitine 2 g/day plus acetyl-L-carnitine 2 g/day. The third group was given a placebo (starch). Drugs and placebo were given for 6 months. The assessed variables were total prostate-specific antigen, prostate volume, peak systolic velocity, end-diastolic velocity, resistive index of cavernosal penile arteries, nocturnal penile tumescence, total and free testosterone, prolactin, luteinizing hormone, International Index of Erectile Function score, Depression Melancholia Scale score, fatigue scale score, and incidence of side effects. The assessment was performed at intervals before, during, and after therapy. RESULTS: Testosterone and carnitines significantly improved the peak systolic velocity, end-diastolic velocity, resistive index, nocturnal penile tumescence, International Index of Erectile Function score, Depression Melancholia Scale score, and fatigue scale score. Carnitines proved significantly more active than testosterone in improving nocturnal penile tumescence and International Index of Erectile Function score. Testosterone significantly increased the prostate volume and free and total testosterone levels and significantly lowered serum luteinizing hormone; carnitines did not. No drug significantly modified prostate-specific antigen or prolactin. Carnitines and testosterone proved effective for as long as they were administered, with suspension provoking a reversal to baseline values. Only the group 1 prostate volume proved significantly greater than baseline 6 months after testosterone suspension. Placebo administration proved ineffective. Negligible side effects emerged. CONCLUSIONS: Testosterone and, especially, carnitines proved to be active drugs for the therapy of symptoms associated with male aging.



So I took 2g of PLcar and 2g of ALcar in the morning and in the evening and noticed great results! Very strong erections, positive mood and increased semen volume!
For a good and cheap testosterone booster this is where it is at!
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:07 PM   #2
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Wow I must say you guys need to get on this, its cheap and effective
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Yeah dude.. I am just about to start dosing this.. cant wait..

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Did you take them on ES or w/ food? What did you mix them in?
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interesting.... i have some bulk alcar i might add to my stack
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Did you take them on ES or w/ food? What did you mix them in?
ES and I took it preworkout mixed in my preworkout drink, at the time it was superpump250..
I wish I could find some more bulkPLCAR so I could use it again. Or rps could just make it together bc I got the idea from matt aka dsade
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ES and I took it preworkout mixed in my preworkout drink, at the time it was superpump250..
I wish I could find some more bulkPLCAR so I could use it again. Or rps could just make it together bc I got the idea from matt aka dsade
We're selling bulk PLCAR.

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