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    Best non-hormonal supplement to maintain muscle on a cut?

    Best non-hormonal supplement to maintain muscle on a cut?
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    Originally Posted by pitching101 View Post
    Best non-hormonal supplement to maintain muscle on a cut?
    It's not cheap, but have you looked at Blue GENE ?
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    There are other products I would put ahead of BG in terms of importance, but it is a great non-hormonal product that would assist in your goals... Obviously you need to keep protein, BCAA's/EAA's esp. Leucine first, but once you take care of the essentials, you could do well with Blue Gene... I'm using it now in my sponsored log on a moderate cut which is soon going to have to get serious.
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    Originally Posted by pitching101 View Post
    Best non-hormonal supplement to maintain muscle on a cut?
    Amplitude for sure as it helps keep your body in an anabolic state by eliminating stressors and preventing catabolism. Anabolic pump is worth a look as well as you can keep your carb intake up without the risk of haulting fat loss by partitioning nutrients.

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    Originally Posted by Peter LeDrew View Post
    There are other products I would put ahead of BG in terms of importance, but it is a great non-hormonal product that would assist in your goals... Obviously you need to keep protein, BCAA's/EAA's esp. Leucine first, but once you take care of the essentials, you could do well with Blue Gene... I'm using it now in my sponsored log on a moderate cut which is soon going to have to get serious.
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    Originally Posted by Peter LeDrew View Post
    There are other products I would put ahead of BG in terms of importance, but it is a great non-hormonal product that would assist in your goals... Obviously you need to keep protein, BCAA's/EAA's esp. Leucine first, but once you take care of the essentials, you could do well with Blue Gene... I'm using it now in my sponsored log on a moderate cut which is soon going to have to get serious.
    Agreed. Depending on how your diet is set up and how low you planned to drop calories and carbs, bcaa's and eaa's are just going to become much more essential.
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    It's not cheap, but have you looked at Blue GENE ?

    twas $27 not long ago. so I bought one using my 20%off bringing its price down to $21.6
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    Whey Protein
    Creatine
    BCAA's


    are good ways to prevent muscle loss, going further... a natty test booster like
    activate xtreme, testabolan v2 or mass fx should help as well.
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    Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm on a cyclical keto diet. Basically no carbs.
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    BCAAs
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    I rarely pimp X Factor... but in terms of maintaining muscle while on a caloric defecit, nothing can touch it. In fact most people notice a recomp with a calorie maintenance or a calorie surplus.
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    Originally Posted by cal62887 View Post
    BCAAs
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    I rarely pimp X Factor... but in terms of maintaining muscle while on a caloric defecit, nothing can touch it. In fact most people notice a recomp with a calorie maintenance or a calorie surplus.
    x2.. forgot it, either X-Factor or Max-Out.
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    Anabolic Pump for sure. It will help with weight loss by increasing AMPk and it will help you maintain strength, energy and muscle mass by increasing uptake of glucose and amino acids into muscle cells.

    Blue Gene, Activate Xtreme, Prime, Mass FX are other ones to look into.
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    Originally Posted by pitching101 View Post
    Best non-hormonal supplement to maintain muscle on a cut?
    A perfect diet with high protein and good timing for your carbs and fats.
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    Originally Posted by pitching101 View Post
    Best non-hormonal supplement to maintain muscle on a cut?
    Your pre, intra, and post workout nutrition plays a critical roll in this. Obviously whey protein post and a good source of fast absorbing carbohydrates for your post workout nutrition.

    Tried and true. BCAA's. Sip on a high dose of these bad boys starting 15 minutes prior to training and then sip on them throughout the entire workout. The higher the dose of Leucine, and the greater the ratio of Leucine to Iso-leucine and Valine, the better (as shown in all the research).

    Creatine is another strong supplement that has shown to maintain lean muscle mass while cutting.
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    On another forum people recommended X-factor and IGF-2. Does anyone know anything about IGF-2 by Applied Nutriceuticals
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    Check out Omnibolic, it contains 2 non-hormonal anabolic sgents. GOOOOOD STUUFFF
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    On another forum people recommended X-factor and IGF-2. Does anyone know anything about IGF-2 by Applied Nutriceuticals
    From personal experience, I'd really keep this as simple as possible and roll with a solid BCAA formula.

    If you look at a competitive bodybuilders getting ready for a show, BCAA's are a prime staple in his/her precontest supplement program to help maintain lean mass. They're not using IGF-2, X-factor, etc. Just trying to keep things real. I've used mega-dosed BCAA's now twice in pre-contest and they make a WORLD of difference when cutting that transcends far beyond just maintaining lean mass. they really help to keep your endurance and stamina levels high when you're one a low calorie diet.
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    I don't eat carbs
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    Agreed. Depending on how your diet is set up and how low you planned to drop calories and carbs, bcaa's and eaa's are just going to become much more essential.
    Well obviously someone such as yourself, with that cutting/competitive experience can def. walk the walk so to speak... this is likely a great time when supplements like the BCAA/EAA's really make a difference and have a turn to shine... Leucine is pretty magical in being able to initiate protein synthesis with just 3-5g dosings and can really provide great benefits even on a low cal diet.
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    BCAAs and Lean Xtreme.
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    Anabolic-Pump, X-Factor and BCAA/EAA.

    What I normally do is dose a few grams of BCAA/EAA between each meal, up to 8 times per day. I just take a tablespoon and dump it onto my tongue and chase it with a sugar-free drink of some sort. Seemed to do wonders for my recovery.
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    Free form BCAA or EAA's, IMO.
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