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    Bulk gone bad?

    SO I competed recently, but felt very small after cutting, and wanted a ton more size. I told myself I would bulk till 2010, diet down again and compete.
    I didn't do any calculated bulking (big regret), but anyways I've been eating alll clean foods, but tons of it. I'm trying harder, longer, and heavier than ever. But I took a picture today and can't help but want to cut down. What do you guys think? Here's my pics...

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    yea, it appears, it's time to cut.
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    Looking big though, have you gained much muscle?
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    I feel like I have gained some solid muscle, especially in my arms, and I feel like i should cut, but I know once I do I'll just decide I want to get bigger. I don't know if I should put my body through a cut, which would mean I'm not putting on new muscle most likely, when my ultimate goal is to be much much bigger.
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    ur body stores fat weird
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    Originally Posted by amc11890 View Post
    ur body stores fat weird
    How so?
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    Holy **** brah. Keep bulking if thats your goal then, forget what you look like now. There would be no point of cutting if your not even where you want to be.. Better yet... Cut, and then bulk right.
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    Holy crap you were lean. 5%? Impressive. Do what you want. I usually bulk in the winter and cut for the summer. Keeps me from gaining too much fat. You're deff bigger but you've put on quite a bit of fat too. I'd just find 10% and go from there.
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    Originally Posted by goldsman View Post
    How so?
    ur really not that fat in the second picture its just that your love handles/obliques are very large so ur waist blows up. U still have adonis belt and visible abs.
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    Originally Posted by amc11890 View Post
    ur really not that fat in the second picture its just that your love handles/obliques are very large so ur waist blows up. U still have adonis belt and visible abs.
    That's the way I am too.

    Have your lifts increased OP?
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    yeah my lifts have gone up. Nothing crazy, but an increase.
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    looks like you didnt do any cardio - correct?
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    Originally Posted by amc11890 View Post
    ur body stores fat weird

    Everybody stores fat differently, dude.
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    Originally Posted by rambo420 View Post
    looks like you didnt do any cardio - correct?
    I did very little cardio.
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    Originally Posted by goldsman View Post
    SO I competed recently, but felt very small after cutting, and wanted a ton more size. I told myself I would bulk till 2010, diet down again and compete.
    I didn't do any calculated bulking (big regret), but anyways I've been eating alll clean foods, but tons of it. I'm trying harder, longer, and heavier than ever. But I took a picture today and can't help but want to cut down. What do you guys think? Here's my pics...

    2 days before contest


    Now.
    Just build the muscle dude....
    Cutting is easy, and You'll find you have a ton more muscle under the fat.

    Maybe cut calories just a bit?
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    Not to sound like a douche or anything, but I personally see more increased body fat, rather than mass gain. I agree with footballplaya23; cut first, then bulk right. However, your abs are still visible, which really works in your favor. XD
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    Originally Posted by vipergq View Post
    Just build the muscle dude....
    Cutting is easy, and You'll find you have a ton more muscle under the fat.

    Maybe cut calories just a bit?

    This is what I'm trying to tell myself, but it's just so hard now that summers here and all.
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    You're not that bad right now. You just have big obliques, so when you put on some fat, you look like you have handles. Maybe you could cut for a month and start over again with a redesigned bulk so that you don't put on so much fat.
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    cut if you want to and then bulk extra clean
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    Keep bulking, cut bulk cut is too much see-saw.
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    Originally Posted by vipergq View Post
    Just build the muscle dude....
    Cutting is easy, and You'll find you have a ton more muscle under the fat.

    Maybe cut calories just a bit?
    Cutting is easy...ummmm since when? If cutting were so easy everyone would be ripped to shreds...lol!!

    Take a closer look at your calories. How much muscle do really think a person can add in a years time...it's not as much as everyone thinks...it's a slow process so you gotta be patient!

    My advice when it comes to bulking has always been this. Do a clean bulk and slowly increase calories above your maintenance. The idea is to add lean mass with minimal fat. People that bulk the wrong way end up adding more fat than anything else...I've seen it happen too many times. Then when they go to cut, they have to bust their asses even harder to lose the fat...never a pretty sight.

    It takes years to add quality muscle to your frame...it's not going to happen overnight. I would cut back on the calories just to drop a little bit of that body fat. Once you get a little more comfortable then go back to a slow bulk.

    Keep it clean and lift your ass off...you'll get there!

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    Cut like 10lbs then go back to adding mass. But do it slower this time.
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    Cutting is easy...ummmm since when? If cutting were so easy everyone would be ripped to shreds...lol!!

    Take a closer look at your calories. How much muscle do really think a person can add in a years time...it's not as much as everyone thinks...it's a slow process so you gotta be patient!

    My advice when it comes to bulking has always been this. Do a clean bulk and slowly increase calories above your maintenance. The idea is to add lean mass with minimal fat. People that bulk the wrong way end up adding more fat than anything else...I've seen it happen too many times. Then when they go to cut, they have to bust their asses even harder to lose the fat...never a pretty sight.

    It takes years to add quality muscle to your frame...it's not going to happen overnight. I would cut back on the calories just to drop a little bit of that body fat. Once you get a little more comfortable then go back to a slow bulk.

    Keep it clean and lift your ass off...you'll get there!

    Congrats on your show!

    I think he means "easy" as in, "everyone knows how. It's no big secret". And that's exactly right. Everyone knows to cut you gotta eat healthy and exercise. The part about being at a calorie deficit might not be common knowledge, but if you eat healthy and exercise you most likely will be at one unless you are purposely bulking. The reason not everyone is shredded is because they are lazy and have no will power.
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    You look fine. You really can't compare yourself during a bulk to pics of yourself in contest shape. If anything keep on trucking, but add minimal cardio or adjust calories.
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    Originally Posted by MathGuy View Post
    I think he means "easy" as in, "everyone knows how. It's no big secret". And that's exactly right. Everyone knows to cut you gotta eat healthy and exercise. The part about being at a calorie deficit might not be common knowledge, but if you eat healthy and exercise you most likely will be at one unless you are purposely bulking. The reason not everyone is shredded is because they are lazy and have no will power.
    See that's the problem not eveyone knows how. You can eat healthy, train your ass off, do cardio and if you're calories are not right...you'll be spinning your wheels. How many times have you seen people cut where calories are too low, progress stalls, or they end up losing more muscle that fat...this **** happens all the time because people don't cut the right way...

    I agree, people are lazy and some have no will power, but there are others that really do work hard...they just don't have the right knowledge...
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    Dont cut, just lower your daily intake a tiny bit
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    Cutting is easy...ummmm since when?
    Since I was born. I can cut on 5500 calories.

    But I get what you're saying.
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    Originally Posted by jfindon View Post
    Since I was born. I can cut on 5500 calories.

    But I get what you're saying.
    You obviously have a metabolism that's through the roof, so for you it would be easier. On the other hand, that must suck having to eat that many calories...and more considering you're bulking holy crap!
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    The fact that you were once that lean and shreded is something alot of people would love to be at. So good job getting down there but it looks to me that if you did cut you would just end up looking exactly they same as you did in the first pic just maybe with slightly larger pecs. i'd say keep bulking for now but add in some cardio, if your metabolism naturally runs fast you should have no problem getting lean again.
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