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home made mayo?
I really like mayo but the stuff u get in shops is soo bad, i was going to experiment making it, its straightforward enough. If i used olive oil surely this would make a good fat content as i am doing a diet where you need to ea 40-50% fats in macros. What do people think?
oh heres the link how to make it. http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Mayonnaise
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05-19-2009, 10:11 AM
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I used fat free plain yogurt as a substitute for mayo in things like Tuna or on sandwhiches with a little seasoning and you really do not notice the difference. No fats and low in calories with some protein. Better off getting your good fats elsewhere than from empty mayo calories. Give FF plain yogurt a try.
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the light mayo isn't bad i has 15 calories a serving compared to 90 from the original...i tried yogurt+tuna and couldn't do it...15 calories is nothing, anyone can afford that&tastes better than yogurt if your using for tuna
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05-19-2009, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by shadowman575
I really like mayo but the stuff u get in shops is soo bad, i was going to experiment making it, its straightforward enough. If i used olive oil surely this would make a good fat content as i am doing a diet where you need to ea 40-50% fats in macros. What do people think?
oh heres the link how to make it. http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Mayonnaise
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Homemade mayo is delicious. I would recommend playing around with the type of oil that you use to find the best combination of flavor and consistency. Use your homemade mayo to meet your daily targets.
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05-19-2009, 10:38 AM
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Yes I guess it is an acquired taste. basically Mayo's main purpose is to add moisture to things like Tuna and sandwhiches. I use the FF plain yogurt in Tuna or Chunk Chicken Breast for the moisture and added protein and then add a little Spicy Mustard (negligible calories), salt, pepper, garlic powder and onion powder and welcome to flavor town!
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05-19-2009, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CoachPhil
I used fat free plain yogurt as a substitute for mayo in things like Tuna or on sandwhiches with a little seasoning and you really do not notice the difference. No fats and low in calories with some protein. Better off getting your good fats elsewhere than from empty mayo calories. Give FF plain yogurt a try.
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This statement in bold makes little sense to me.
Homemade mayo with olive oil is virtually nothing else but that and egg. How exactly is quality fat and egg empty calories? Why should he go elsewhere for his healthy fat, when good homemade mayo is a perfect source of good fat?
Empty calories are white bread, sugar, etc. not heart healthy anabolic fats...
EDIT: The fact that this guys diet puts fat at 40-50% macro, makes this advice even worse...he NEEDS the quality fat.
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05-19-2009, 02:49 PM
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What in the hell is going on inside this thread? Mayonnaise is empty calories? What do you think is in it? The two main ingredients are oil and eggs... where's the "empty" part?
Stop throwing bull**** information around. Mayonnaise is actually one of the best sources of polyunsaturated fats that you can get. Most sources of "good" fat are high in mono and low in poly. Mayo is the opposite.
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05-19-2009, 02:55 PM
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What in the hell is going on inside this thread? Mayonnaise is empty calories? What do you think is in it? The two main ingredients are oil and eggs... where's the "empty" part?
Stop throwing bull**** information around. Mayonnaise is actually one of the best sources of polyunsaturated fats that you can get. Most sources of "good" fat are high in mono and low in poly. Mayo is the opposite.
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Thank You!
I couldn't believe I read that, especially when we are talking about homemade with olive oil, as long as it fits your macros its a frikkin health food.
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05-19-2009, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RuckstaR
This statement in bold makes little sense to me.
Homemade mayo with olive oil is virtually nothing else but that and egg. How exactly is quality fat and egg empty calories? Why should he go elsewhere for his healthy fat, when good homemade mayo is a perfect source of good fat?
Empty calories are white bread, sugar, etc. not heart healthy anabolic fats...
EDIT: The fact that this guys diet puts fat at 40-50% macro, makes this advice even worse...he NEEDS the quality fat.
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I was talking about regular mayo, my apologies. People tend to overuse regular mayo which adds a lot of unnecessary calories (which is what I should have said rather than empty, again my apologies)- 100 cal per tbsp and 10g of Fat (1.5 sat). I find most people tend to use 3 tbsp without realizing it.
Substituting olive oil sounds like a great idea and adds some flavor and is probably better relatively than soybean oil.
I still like fat free plain yogurt for those not needing the fat intake goal.
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05-19-2009, 03:10 PM
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I was talking about regular mayo, my apologies.
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Same goes for store-bought mayonnaise. Mostly oil and egg. There's nothing bad about it.
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How about mayo made with macadamia nut oil?
I have never used macadamia nut oil, but i love macadamia nuts (my favorite) although I never eat them lol.
Mayo made with olive oil doesn't sound too appealing... but macadamia nut oil... now that sounds intriguing!
How is my logic?
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Same goes for store-bought mayonnaise. Mostly oil and egg. There's nothing bad about it.
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I do not agree on regular mayo at 90-100 calories and 10grams of fat per TBSP for those not looking for the same fat goal as the poster. Light mayo is 45 calories and 4.5g of fat and since I am watching calories/fat I would rather not add it in the mayo. Just my preference but for those needing to drop BF% it is an easy place to cut cals.
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05-19-2009, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LatinoMusculito
How about mayo made with macadamia nut oil?
I have never used macadamia nut oil, but i love macadamia nuts (my favorite) although I never eat them lol.
Mayo made with olive oil doesn't sound too appealing... but macadamia nut oil... now that sounds intriguing!
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Dude you are missing out on mayo with olive oil. It's so good I use it as a dip for oven roastes fries when it fits macros...mmmmm. You can also temper it with another oil if the olive flavour is too strong, but I bet you'd like it!
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Originally Posted by LatinoMusculito
How about mayo made with macadamia nut oil?
I have never used macadamia nut oil, but i love macadamia nuts (my favorite) although I never eat them lol.
Mayo made with olive oil doesn't sound too appealing... but macadamia nut oil... now that sounds intriguing!
How is my logic?
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Never tried Macadamia Nut oil... the nuts always seemed loaded with cal/fat given a serving size (1 oz is 200 cal/21g fat more or less) but the oil looks good. Certinaly love the taste of macadamia nuts.
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Originally Posted by CoachPhil
I do not agree on regular mayo at 90-100 calories and 10grams of fat per TBSP for those not looking for the same fat goal as the poster. Light mayo is 45 calories and 4.5g of fat and since I am watching calories/fat I would rather not add it in the mayo. Just my preference but for those needing to drop BF% it is an easy place to cut cals.
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That light mayo you like has just replaced the fat that's supposed to be in mayo with sugars and fillers. Congratulations. It's like buying reduced fat peanut butter.
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05-19-2009, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CoachPhil
I do not agree on regular mayo at 90-100 calories and 10grams of fat per TBSP for those not looking for the same fat goal as the poster. Light mayo is 45 calories and 4.5g of fat and since I am watching calories/fat I would rather not add it in the mayo. Just my preference but for those needing to drop BF% it is an easy place to cut cals.
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The fat and calories are virtually the same as natty PB; slightly higher.
If on a cut, mayo may not be great due to overuse, but for bulks and maintainance, a quality mayo whether storebought or homemade is a source of quality fat, and good cals.
As a food, it cannot be argued that it is bad, empty, or excessive; only its overuse is bad or excessive.
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Originally Posted by fyre500
That light mayo you like has just replaced the fat that's supposed to be in mayo with sugars and fillers. Congratulations. It's like buying reduced fat peanut butter.
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Works wonders for a cut, you know!
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Sarcasm or no?
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Never tried Macadamia Nut oil... the nuts always seemed loaded with cal/fat given a serving size (1 oz is 200 cal/21g fat more or less) but the oil looks good. Certinaly love the taste of macadamia nuts.
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You seem to have a strange adversity to calories and fat.
They are your friend, and fat is essential. Embrace them
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You seem to have a strange adversity to calories and fat.
They are your friend, and fat is essential. Embrace them 
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Well I was 245 and got down to 211 so I had to watch calories and fat. I do not think that is so strange. Mayo is easily abused so I just cut it out and found my own alternative. Some of the suggestions here for homemade mayo are a much better improvement but the key is to note how much is in a Tbsp and not forget the portion control.
Lot of people here are bulking so it probably does not apply to them. Making choices on calories and fats is not a bad thing. Different strokes for different folks  .
As for macadamia nuts, those things are the best, but they come in a little jar and you eat the whole thing and you downed like 600 calories without realizing it. The calories and fat seem fine but the serving size is out of touch with reality with what normal people would eat, so I just avoid it.
I agree with you in general but for us biggies, too easy to slip up.
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Well I was 245 and got down to 211 so I had to watch calories and fat. I do not think that is so strange. Mayo is easily abused so I just cut it out and found my own alternative. Some of the suggestions here for homemade mayo are a much better improvement but the key is to note how much is in a Tbsp and not forget the portion control.
Lot of people here are bulking so it probably does not apply to them. Making choices on calories and fats is not a bad thing. Different strokes for different folks  .
As for macadamia nuts, those things are the best, but they come in a little jar and you eat the whole thing and you downed like 600 calories without realizing it. The calories and fat seem fine but the serving size is out of touch with reality with what normal people would eat, so I just avoid it.
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I agree, and would add that to me what it comes down to is that its not most foods that are good or bad, it's how we USE them that is good or bad.
If you find yourself going ape**** on mayo, but can get your fat elsewhere more responsibly then go for it.
I'm just aways leary when it seems like someone is down on fat, because while fat is the most calorie dense, and thus the easiest way to cut calories, it is also crucial in hormone production, protein synthesis, and your body's ability to burn bodyfat as energy. Because of this, I prefer reducing carbs in more creative ways, and leaving my fat intake alone if possible.
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Mayo is really simple to make. Separate 2-4 egg yolks, toss them in the blender (food processor is better if you have one) and put the spurs to it. Toss in some oil of your choosing and then a bit of lemon juice and some herbs. Then toss in more oil, then some lemon juice. All of this while the blender is still running. It takes a minute or two, but it will hit the right consistency and stay at the right consistency if you add your oil slowly. When it's almost done, add salt and maybe pepper. I like to use half canola and half olive oil for my mayo and I use lemon juice and thyme for flavorings. Goes great for chicken and tuna salads. I bought a big thing of kraft mayo recently as I end up using a lot of mayo on keto. But when I'm not on a regular diet, I hardly ever use the stuff and I just make it whenever I need it.
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I made mayo once with macadamia nut oil...it was good!
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I agree, and would add that to me what it comes down to is that its not most foods that are good or bad, it's how we USE them that is good or bad.
If you find yourself going ape**** on mayo, but can get your fat elsewhere more responsibly then go for it.
I'm just aways leary when it seems like someone is down on fat, because while fat is the most calorie dense, and thus the easiest way to cut calories, it is also crucial in hormone production, protein synthesis, and your body's ability to burn bodyfat as energy. Because of this, I prefer reducing carbs in more creative ways, and leaving my fat intake alone if possible.
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Ahhh ok I understand your point now. No I am not down on fat, no fat-free diets for me. I understand's fat's role in my diet so I was not dissing mayo because it has fat, just a lot plus calories relative to the tendency to abuse mayo, at least for me. No I am not down on fat.
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You guys neg repped me because I suggested fat free yogurt as a possible substitute for mayo... jeez how mature.
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Who's "you guys"? I didn't neg anybody. I think it's a good idea in certain foods when on a cut but putting it on a sandwich doesn't sound so hot.
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