i have been doing ripptoes for about 3 months now and have stalled on most of my weight and i would like to switch to an actual 5x5 i have looked around and ckecked haver bill star's and stronglift but not sure which one (if any) are better. Does anyone have a good routine or recommendation?
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Thread: whats a good 5x5 layout?
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05-17-2009, 03:59 PM #1
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whats a good 5x5 layout?
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230 squat
206 bench
300 dead
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05-17-2009, 04:31 PM #2
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05-17-2009, 04:32 PM #3
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05-17-2009, 05:01 PM #4
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05-17-2009, 05:57 PM #5
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dead: 235
Squats: 210
Bench: 160
Press: 100
i know there not that much, but thats all i belive i can achieve with rip's. i have reset all twice and the only one im still improving on is deadlift and squats but squats are coming to a crawl.In for a penny, In for a pound.
230 squat
206 bench
300 dead
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05-17-2009, 06:01 PM #6
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05-17-2009, 06:24 PM #7
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05-17-2009, 06:44 PM #8
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05-17-2009, 07:26 PM #9
if the squat and dead are still going up, move the bench and press to intermediate programming while continuing linear progress on the other lifts. If this sounds complicated, or you don't know how to program for yourself, just moving to the bill starr 5x5 won't hurt you, but it might give you slightly slower progress than if you had stuck with SS.
Are you continuing to add 5-10 lbs to your squat and deadlift per workout?
Have you been gaining weight while on the program?
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05-17-2009, 08:00 PM #10
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05-17-2009, 08:30 PM #11
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05-17-2009, 08:46 PM #12
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05-18-2009, 03:33 AM #13
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05-18-2009, 06:20 AM #14
I think you'd be okay on the Bill Starr 5x5, but could probably squeeze more out of Rippetoes SS for a bit.
Firstly, get us some video of your squat and deadlift, bench and overhead press form so we can see if there's anything obvious that might shoot you through a plateau. Leg drive in the bench, balance in the squat, and setup in the deadlift can all make a huge difference.
If your form is spot on (and that means that you have video analyzed by a knowing eye, or a coach, not a friend, who watches you train live), then these things might help you.
Have you dropped wednesdays back squats and replaced them with front squats? a lighter load on wednesday, whether 3x3 front squats or 2x5 light back squats will allow you to rest and possibly go back to adding 5 lbs per workout on monday and friday.
When things got heavy, I benefitted doubly from front squatting and deadlifting on wednesday only, which allowed to to go heavier on the deadlift because the front squat was relatively light as I was learning a new movement and it is naturally lighter than my backsquat. That move alone shot me through a few more weeks of progress.
I was surprised the most, however, at how poor my form was, even though I watched video all of the time, read SS at least 20 times, etc., until I got a good video of it, and saw that I was shooting my hips up hard, shifting the weight forward of midfoot, and consequently doing a good morning. Get us videos first, then try the Front Squat and deadlift on wednesday.
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