Any true PHs on the market anymore?

JustBrowsin · 05-09-2009, 08:01 PM

Please excuse my ignorance but I have not kept current in the realm of legal hormones. Back in the good old days there were the legit prohormones like 1-ad, 4-ad, and the like, but thanks to uncle sam those are gone. I ask this question because I see a lot of threads about PH in this forum. The few currently legal compounds I have researched appear not to be prohormones, but active hormonal compounds outright. If this is the case they are not really 'prohormones' since that would imply that the drug in question is metabolized into a hormone, hence the 'pro' prefix-- and these supplements that are available are simply AAS that have yet to be picked up on and scheduled by congress. Am I correct in this understanding?

MattMatt12341 · 05-09-2009, 08:31 PM

I believe tons, but the only ones I can think of off top of head are 3-ad and bold.

headinahole · 05-09-2009, 08:35 PM

m1,4add is still around

....not real sure what you're getting at though. The older ones were "pro hormones" as well, well actually that's a stretch. They were straight up oral steroids, which.... well what we kinda have now.

JustBrowsin · 05-09-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by headinahole

m1,4add is still around

....not real sure what you're getting at though. The older ones were "pro hormones" as well, well actually that's a stretch. They were straight up oral steroids, which.... well what we kinda have now.

some, like 1-ad, 4-ad, etc were true prohormones.... m1t, t-test, and the like were steroids... thats the distinction i'm trying to make. They may all be marketed or generalized as 'prohormones', but do you see the distinction I'm making?

headinahole · 05-09-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JustBrowsin

some, like 1-ad, 4-ad, etc were true prohormones.... m1t, t-test, and the like were steroids... thats the distinction i'm trying to make. They may all be marketed or generalized as 'prohormones', but do you see the distinction I'm making?

Well it's all in what compound they were based on, but yeah I got you.

There's still some great compounds out man.

sizeNstrength · 05-09-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JustBrowsin

some, like 1-ad, 4-ad, etc were true prohormones.... m1t, t-test, and the like were steroids... thats the distinction i'm trying to make. They may all be marketed or generalized as 'prohormones', but do you see the distinction I'm making?

you are talking about DSs vs prohormones. There are still both around.

PBateman · 05-09-2009, 10:06 PM

The difference between a PH and a DS has nothing to do with how effective it is, a PH just requires in vivo conversion. I'm not sure M1,4ad would be considered a PH, kind of both if it has intrinsic effects along with what it converts to. I believe Bold and 11oxo are both PH's. That kind of proves the point, they aren't exactly the strongest things out there, some of the DS's are.

Edit: it looks like OP knows what the distinction is, was just curious which ones are that are out.

TheSupremeBeing · 05-09-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JustBrowsin

Please excuse my ignorance but I have not kept current in the realm of legal hormones. Back in the good old days there were the legit prohormones like 1-ad, 4-ad, and the like, but thanks to uncle sam those are gone. I ask this question because I see a lot of threads about PH in this forum. The few currently legal compounds I have researched appear not to be prohormones, but active hormonal compounds outright. If this is the case they are not really 'prohormones' since that would imply that the drug in question is metabolized into a hormone, hence the 'pro' prefix-- and these supplements that are available are simply AAS that have yet to be picked up on and scheduled by congress. Am I correct in this understanding?

There are a plethora of new prohormones and orally active steroid compounds available.

Prohormones:

BOLD 200 - Connverts in to Boldenone
M1,4ad - Converts in to Methylated Boldenone[Dianabol]
1-Androsterone - Converts in to 1-Testosterone

Orally Active Steroids:

Superdrol(Methylated Drostanolone)
Epistane(Methylated Steroidal Aromatase Inhibitor)
Phera-Plex(Desoxymethyltestosterone)
Halodrol(4-Chlorotestosterone derivative)
Promagnon(4-Chlorotestosterone derivative)
Furaguno(Non-methlyated Clostebol)
Trenadrol(Methlyated 19-Nortestosterone derivative)

JustBrowsin · 05-10-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSupremeBeing

There are a plethora of new prohormones and orally active steroid compounds available.

Prohormones:

BOLD 200 - Connverts in to Boldenone
M1,4ad - Converts in to Methylated Boldenone[Dianabol]
1-Androsterone - Converts in to 1-Testosterone

Orally Active Steroids:

Superdrol(Methylated Drostanolone)
Epistane(Methylated Steroidal Aromatase Inhibitor)
Phera-Plex(Desoxymethyltestosterone)
Halodrol(4-Chlorotestosterone derivative)
Promagnon(4-Chlorotestosterone derivative)
Furaguno(Non-methlyated Clostebol)
Trenadrol(Methlyated 19-Nortestosterone derivative)

excellent reply... thank you

TheSupremeBeing · 05-10-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JustBrowsin

excellent reply... thank you

Anytime man.

ProWrestleFan · 05-10-2009, 09:23 AM

Phera-Plex rocks... Just saying...

rick00001967 · 05-10-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSupremeBeing

There are a plethora of new prohormones and orally active steroid compounds available.

Prohormones:

1-Androsterone - Converts in to 1-Testosterone

are you talking about AMS 1-AD?? or is there another??
only asing because i have read numerous postings that the AMS is bunk. so if there is another i would like to know.
thx

PowerD · 05-10-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rick00001967

are you talking about AMS 1-AD?? or is there another??
only asing because i have read numerous postings that the AMS is bunk. so if there is another i would like to know.
thx

I'd also like to know this

TheSupremeBeing · 05-10-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rick00001967

are you talking about AMS 1-AD?? or is there another??
only asing because i have read numerous postings that the AMS is bunk. so if there is another i would like to know.
thx

There is a transdermal 1-androsterone product called 1-T. Check it out.

alphaomegared · 05-10-2009, 02:44 PM

I have been out of the prohormone loop for years now. I recently did some research and ordered Orafinadrol 50. I already have something for liver support and a solid protein powder so I am not worried about that end.
Have any of you guys tried this product? If so, how did it work for you? I found several reviews of the product and all were positive.
Is Vitrix an acceptable PCT or do I need to find a better product?
Also I am 35 and just got done with a bought of the flu that cost me 17, hard earned pounds. Any suggestions for legal prohormone products that will help me gain without making me aggressive?

rick00001967 · 05-11-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSupremeBeing

There is a transdermal 1-androsterone product called 1-T. Check it out.

thx. i will.

TheSupremeBeing · 05-15-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by alphaomegared

I have been out of the prohormone loop for years now. I recently did some research and ordered Orafinadrol 50. I already have something for liver support and a solid protein powder so I am not worried about that end.
Have any of you guys tried this product? If so, how did it work for you? I found several reviews of the product and all were positive.
Is Vitrix an acceptable PCT or do I need to find a better product?
Also I am 35 and just got done with a bought of the flu that cost me 17, hard earned pounds. Any suggestions for legal prohormone products that will help me gain without making me aggressive?

Typically, OTC natural testosterone boosters are not sufficient alone for PCT. Make sure to use an Aromatase Inhibitor such as 6-bromo or ATD, and a SERM if you have access.

alphaomegared · 06-15-2009, 06:53 AM

Thanks for the info.