Strongest and Safest PH

BullSeaman13 · 05-07-2009, 12:58 AM

I want to get the most gains out of a bulk and am going to do my first PH.
I want to be safe (not methylated) and have looked into
-BOLD 200
-Furazadrol
-Sus 500

I've heard mixed reviews on all three what results have you gotten?
Are they any others i should look into??

nickrut · 05-07-2009, 01:02 AM

Strongest non methyl will be either trenadrol or X-tren, but those come with potential sides.

EQplex/bold is probably your best bet for SAFE non methyl. safe as in low chances of sides. Any compound is safe if you know what ur doing

deniall · 05-07-2009, 01:03 AM

Oh lord...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=116045501

nickrut · 05-07-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by deniall

Oh lord...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=116045501

They arent completely non toxic but non methyl > methyl in terms of lack of toxicity

BullSeaman13 · 05-07-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by deniall

Oh lord...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=116045501

I realize there is no non-toxic ph i'm just asking for the safest option for the most gains, moreover for anyone's expirience with such products and or suggestions?

anyone tried nasty mass??

BullSeaman13 · 05-07-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by deniall

Oh lord...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=116045501

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickrut

They arent completely non toxic but non methyl > methyl in terms of lack of toxicity

thank you! i realize all this im just asking for expiriences and suggestions..

deniall · 05-07-2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BullSeaman13

thank you! i realize all this im just asking for expiriences and suggestions..

You're 19 dude. Why do you want to use a PH? If you have stopped gaining have you increased calories and changed your training regime?

BullSeaman13 · 05-07-2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by deniall

You're 19 dude. Why do you want to use a PH? If you have stopped gaining have you increased calories and changed your training regime?

i have a bad case of bigorexia and want to get jacked, i change my lifts and reps every 6-8 weeks and am at about 3500 calories a day, i am a hardcore ectophmorph and just want some legit gains.

deniall · 05-07-2009, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BullSeaman13

i have a bad case of bigorexia and want to get jacked, i change my lifts and reps every 6-8 weeks and am at about 3500 calories a day, i am a hardcore ectophmorph and just want some legit gains.

I'm a hardcore ectomorph too but i'm 26 and I still haven't used a PH.

What you need to know is that if you aren't gaining naturally then something is wrong with either your diet or training and a PH will not fix either one of those problems.

A PH is not the answer, especially at 19. Up your calories, lift heavier and when you're 21+ and have done a year's worth of research then consider a PH.

pullins122 · 05-07-2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BullSeaman13

I want to get the most gains out of a bulk and am going to do my first PH.
I want to be safe (not methylated) and have looked into
-BOLD 200
-Furazadrol
-Sus 500

I've heard mixed reviews on all three what results have you gotten?
Are they any others i should look into??

X tren

MikeRAnderson · 05-07-2009, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BullSeaman13

I want to get the most gains out of a bulk and am going to do my first PH.
I want to be safe (not methylated) and have looked into
-BOLD 200
-Furazadrol
-Sus 500

I've heard mixed reviews on all three what results have you gotten?
Are they any others i should look into??

translation:

yo surfer dudes and dudettes im tryin to get jacked for this summer tearin up the surf down in south beach brahhhhhh. I mean I heard you could take these PH things that are like roids but not really. Like what one should i go buy dudes i mean there are so many out there but when i googled it bold, furazadrol and sus500 came up first so they must be cool right? i mean i dont want to die or anything bad so like what what one doesnt make your balls shrink, give you man boobs, make you loose hair, or destroy your liver but also gives huge gains at the same time breehhhhh. also it cant interfere with me standin out on the beach all day with my bodyboard sippin my brew tryin to look good breehhh. any input would be tubularrrrrr.

im all for takin PHs its your own personal decision no matter what your age/exp is. but do your research. and i def dont think sus500 is on top of the safe list!

haglock · 05-07-2009, 02:48 AM

Bold. But you won't really get *too* much out of it running it standalone. You won't really have all those ****ty sides, though.

snobrder_ad · 05-07-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeRAnderson

translation:

yo surfer dudes and dudettes im tryin to get jacked for this summer tearin up the surf down in south beach brahhhhhh. I mean I heard you could take these PH things that are like roids but not really. Like what one should i go buy dudes i mean there are so many out there but when i googled it bold, furazadrol and sus500 came up first so they must be cool right? i mean i dont want to die or anything bad so like what what one doesnt make your balls shrink, give you man boobs, make you loose hair, or destroy your liver but also gives huge gains at the same time breehhhhh. also it cant interfere with me standin out on the beach all day with my bodyboard sippin my brew tryin to look good breehhh. any input would be tubularrrrrr.!

Whats more pathetic... him not doing his research or you typing this whole little skit out? Its just a plee for advice, thats what these boards are all about. If they didnt want people to post questions on here, then all there would be is stickies with alllll the information you ever needed, everything covered. But there isnt. Im tired of seeing people getting bashed on, if it upsets you that much dont reply to his thread, someone else will or it will die. If his thread dies without an answer to his questions dont you think he would be more apt to doing more research?

sizeNstrength · 05-07-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BullSeaman13

i have a bad case of bigorexia and want to get jacked, i change my lifts and reps every 6-8 weeks and am at about 3500 calories a day, i am a hardcore ectophmorph and just want some legit gains.

Why don't you try eating 4k-4.5k ultra clean high fat high protein calories and see what happens...

texaslifter06 · 05-07-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by snobrder_ad

Whats more pathetic... him not doing his research or you typing this whole little skit out? Its just a plee for advice, thats what these boards are all about. If they didnt want people to post questions on here, then all there would be is stickies with alllll the information you ever needed, everything covered. But there isnt. Im tired of seeing people getting bashed on, if it upsets you that much dont reply to his thread, someone else will or it will die. If his thread dies without an answer to his questions dont you think he would be more apt to doing more research?

go easy man, I thought that skit was hilarious, However you are correct, there is no way we can make these 19 yr olds stop thinking about PH's/Steroids. The best course of action is to simply let them know its dangerous, and that we will not condone thier behavior. Im sure hes still gonna do whatever he gets his hands on, but when his liver fails and his balls are non existent, I wont have that on my concience

Acetyl-CoA · 05-07-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BullSeaman13

I want to be safe

Ok. Don't do prohormones. It's as simple as that.

Liver, kidneys, bones, immune system, blood vessels, heart, testicles, nervous system, penis, and breasts... just some of the things that could get ****ed up by pro-hormone usage.

19 and think you are invincible? Well then cosider this if you don't care about side effects: alot of people who are your peers will have contempt for you if your use prohormes, period. That's just the way it is. Some people on this site may disagree on a personal basis, but on the larger scale people will have contempt for you and probably lose some respect.

If you must do them, wait till you are 26, have a different body, are more mature, and have different priorities. Then you can make a reasoned decision. Right now, this **** is irrational brah.

BullSeaman13 · 05-07-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by deniall

I'm a hardcore ectomorph too but i'm 26 and I still haven't used a PH.

What you need to know is that if you aren't gaining naturally then something is wrong with either your diet or training and a PH will not fix either one of those problems.

A PH is not the answer, especially at 19. Up your calories, lift heavier and when you're 21+ and have done a year's worth of research then consider a PH.

Thank you, i truly appreciate the advice! I plan to up my calories and low my reps by increasing my weights. I saw a friend, who is 20, get great results from havoc and wanted to see what this was all about. Thank you again for your advice!

BullSeaman13 · 05-07-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRAnderson

translation:

yo surfer dudes and dudettes im tryin to get jacked for this summer tearin up the surf down in south beach brahhhhhh. I mean I heard you could take these PH things that are like roids but not really. Like what one should i go buy dudes i mean there are so many out there but when i googled it bold, furazadrol and sus500 came up first so they must be cool right? i mean i dont want to die or anything bad so like what what one doesnt make your balls shrink, give you man boobs, make you loose hair, or destroy your liver but also gives huge gains at the same time breehhhhh. also it cant interfere with me standin out on the beach all day with my bodyboard sippin my brew tryin to look good breehhh. any input would be tubularrrrrr.

thank you! i couldn't have said it better this is exactly what i was trying to say!

BullSeaman13 · 05-07-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sizeNstrength

Why don't you try eating 4k-4.5k ultra clean high fat high protein calories and see what happens...

This is great advice and exactly why i came to these forums, thank you for the help!

BullSeaman13 · 05-07-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by snobrder_ad

Whats more pathetic... him not doing his research or you typing this whole little skit out? Its just a plee for advice, thats what these boards are all about. If they didnt want people to post questions on here, then all there would be is stickies with alllll the information you ever needed, everything covered. But there isnt. Im tired of seeing people getting bashed on, if it upsets you that much dont reply to his thread, someone else will or it will die. If his thread dies without an answer to his questions dont you think he would be more apt to doing more research?

i do apologize for the repost i don't get on the forums very much, but when i do i am definitely a newb. Thank you for encouraging me to do more research!

BUNGLEB · 05-07-2009, 03:21 PM

i do agree as it is a little early to start thinking about PH's. you will naturally fill out up untill your mid 20's anyway, i know of a serious weight gainer thats called 'Monster Food' from the U.K.
im not sure if you can get it in the U.S.A, but i do know its just over 1200 calories per serving. think two servings a day plus eating like a mule. your bound to gain size for sure. might get a bit chuuby, but worth a shot. i will find the details of this product for you.

BUNGLEB · 05-07-2009, 03:26 PM

check out this weight gainer.

http://www.discount-supplements.co.u...-chocolate.asp

MikeRAnderson · 05-07-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by snobrder_ad

Whats more pathetic... him not doing his research or you typing this whole little skit out? Its just a plee for advice, thats what these boards are all about. If they didnt want people to post questions on here, then all there would be is stickies with alllll the information you ever needed, everything covered. But there isnt. Im tired of seeing people getting bashed on, if it upsets you that much dont reply to his thread, someone else will or it will die. If his thread dies without an answer to his questions dont you think he would be more apt to doing more research?

i was just bustin his balls bro. maybe it was a pathetic post but i was bored and it entertained me for a minute atleast. I just want people to be aware of what they are gettin into cause alot of people post hey whats the best prohormone or they see their friends get big fast and just take it without knowing a damn thing. I personally have friends who saw me get big off my last cycle and desparately wanted to know what i was on. after i told them they picked it up the next day and started taking it without having ANY idea what they were doing and not believing that what they were taking is actually a steroid...and this is happening everyday. The OP is already one step ahead of these idiots by actually creating an account on here and caring enough to ask questions.

IMO my post was good advice to him i may not have answered his question how he wanted but if you look at the bottom of the post i give my 2cents in a little more serious fashon.

adaddy919 · 05-07-2009, 04:06 PM

dont listen to em its your body try a ph for a month see what happens.. thats what i did it gave me a little kick (from 150 lbs to 156 lbs) no change in bf just muscle.

ibrahimsi · 05-07-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by adaddy919

dont listen to em its your body try a ph for a month see what happens.. thats what i did it gave me a little kick (from 150 lbs to 156 lbs) no change in bf just muscle.

sarcasm?

Vandal24 · 05-07-2009, 04:54 PM

do you like peanut butter? cause you should. just make sure its natural

AE14 · 05-07-2009, 06:50 PM

At 19 I would not think a PH is totally necessary.

Ruthless By Nature · 05-07-2009, 06:52 PM

of course the natural route is the best to go at your (our) age atm, maybe throw in a natural test booster if you need an extra kick... if you don't listen and go the PH route then go with Bold, taken responsibly you should be fine...

MrHardness · 05-07-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bullseaman13

i want to get the most gains out of a bulk and am going to do my first ph.
I want to be safe (not methylated) and have looked into
-bold 200
-furazadrol
-sus 500

i've heard mixed reviews on all three what results have you gotten?
Are they any others i should look into??

sus 500 wtf??? Ahhh no

MikeRAnderson · 05-08-2009, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by adaddy919

dont listen to em its your body try a ph for a month see what happens.. thats what i did it gave me a little kick (from 150 lbs to 156 lbs) no change in bf just muscle.

said like a true 18yr old

knew the age before i even checked it.