I was just wondering what you guys thought on squatting frequency. And wanted to start a thread for some hopefully at least semi-intelligent discussion on training programs. I know of a lot of guys are doing WS4SB which is 1 day (maybe 0 if ME DL's). And that works no question. Many also do Rip's Starting Strength which is 3 days of squatting. And that is a good program too. I have actually had success with both. I was wondering if you all think one is better for a certain type of athlete.
For example I don't really have proof to this theory, and I am sure a complete noob can make gains off WS4SB. I feel like Starting Strength would be better for a complete noob then he could go to WS4SB after like a month or two.
And a follow up question, with all the variations in Defranco's WestSide Template, would there ever be a reason to go back to something more like Rip's?
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05-05-2009, 08:19 PM #1
How many days per week do you squat?
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05-06-2009, 09:43 AM #3
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My routine:
Day 1-Back/bi/Abs
Day 2-Shoulder/Cardio
Day 3-Legs/shoulder/Abs
Day 4- OFF
Day 5-Back/Bi/Cardio
Day 6- Chest/Tri/Abs
Day 7- Legs/Shoulder/Cardio
I Could go into the different workouts I do for different days but that would take WAY too long and I type at a snails pace. Its good to add new exercises to keep your muscles guessing to gain more faster. I will sometimes even do my workout completely backwards. Hope this helps!
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05-06-2009, 09:53 AM #4
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Leg workout:
Squat:
185x12
225x10
245x8
285x6
Dead Lift:
185x12
225x10
245x10
265x8
Leg Press
3 plates each side x15
4 plates each side x12
5 plates each side x10
6 plates each side x8
Leg extensions:
Warm up 165x15
120 lbs Burnout (you will barely be able to walk after)
Leg Curls:
105 lbs warm up
50 lbs burnout (Brutal)
Calf Raises:
170x20
190x20
210x15
230x15
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05-06-2009, 09:56 AM #5
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05-06-2009, 02:55 PM #13
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if i could id do them everyday.....
in season usually squat and dead once a week but if i'm on bill stars sometimes twice a week and no deads
off season-usualy some form of squats every session so up to 4
this month ill be doing squats(heavy) mondays and deads(heavy) wed with squat jumps(medium).
IMO you should be squating at least once a week most important lift for sports IMOpeople ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"
if your family was captured and you were told you needed to put 100 pounds onto your max squat within two months or your family would be executed, would you squat once per week? Something tells me that you'd start squatting every day
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05-06-2009, 05:40 PM #14
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05-09-2009, 11:40 PM #16
This is a bodybuilding workout. No offense but I do not feel this will help an athlete. Right now I am doing Defrancos template. Well my version of it. Just tweaked it a bit. But at the moment I am doing one lower body day, and it is working wonders for me. In about a month I have added 15-20 pounds on to my squat.
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05-14-2009, 05:59 PM #17
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I squat once per week because i do 2 other plyometric workouts in addition per week where i need my legs to be fresh to benefit from them. Defrancos template is set-up for athletes trying to also improve their speed and explosiveness as well as leg strength. Rip's starting strength is more for increasing just the squat and not speed and explosiveness, which the dynamic day in WS4SB is made to improve. I am not sure if the greater frequeny in squats per week increases leg strength more than the WS4SB once per week does (it may, but i just have no trial evidence to compare) but it would most likely not be possible to squat 3 times per week and still be able to implement plyometric type drills to aid in reactive and/or explosive strength. the athlete would most likely burnout from overtraining and would not benefit much from it, so i would say the two programs are for two seperate types of athletes trying to reach different goals.
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