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Old 04-29-2009, 07:11 PM   #1
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WHATS THE differents of MUSCLE building and like power lifting?

WHATS THE differents between MUSCLE building and like power lifting?

cause i lift heavy like 80% of the time i go to the gym and now im wondering should change my routine to get big muscles and massive strength.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:13 PM   #2
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:15 PM   #3
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^^^^thats basically it. bbers focus on all muscles and power lifters focus more on the big 3 bench deadlift and squat.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:19 PM   #4
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so if i lift heavy would i look good ?
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:19 PM   #5
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There is no difference. If you lift heavy, your muscles will expand, yielding strength and size- the muscles are built to be "explosive." With a proper mass building program, large strength and size gains can be achieved, and you will see a lot a mass gains.

High reps, lower weight will cause your muscles to be "longer" and more aimed towards endurance. lifting this way will help reduce body fat more than power lifting and it will bring out the tone in your muscles, but not necessarily expand them at all.

You will have to spend a few months cutting down if you plan on bulking up with a power lifting workout program.
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There is no difference. If you lift heavy, your muscles will expand, yielding strength and size- the muscles are built to be "explosive." With a proper mass building program, large strength and size gains can be achieved, and you will see a lot a mass gains.

High reps, lower weight will cause your muscles to be "longer" and more aimed towards endurance. lifting this way will help reduce body fat more than power lifting and it will bring out the tone in your muscles, but not necessarily expand them at all.

You will have to spend a few months cutting down if you plan on bulking up with a power lifting workout program.
Will you shut the **** up. You just said in another thread that 16 is too young for creatine.
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:22 PM   #9
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There is no difference. If you lift heavy, your muscles will expand, yielding strength and size- the muscles are built to be "explosive." With a proper mass building program, large strength and size gains can be achieved, and you will see a lot a mass gains.

High reps, lower weight will cause your muscles to be "longer" and more aimed towards endurance. lifting this way will help reduce body fat more than power lifting and it will bring out the tone in your muscles, but not necessarily expand them at all.

You will have to spend a few months cutting down if you plan on bulking up with a power lifting workout program.
stupidest post i have read today
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^^^^thats basically it. bbers focus on all muscles and power lifters focus more on the big 3 bench deadlift and squat.
All I care about is powerclean. 280 lbs. It is a direct reflection of technique, deadlift and squat. Bench is my weak point. 275 lbs only.

I'm a BB honestly, I care about putting on that muscle, because in the end, more muscle=more strength for me. Not once have I gotten weaker since I put muscle on.
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Thanks, and why is that
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There is no difference. If you lift heavy, your muscles will expand, yielding strength and size- the muscles are built to be "explosive." With a proper mass building program, large strength and size gains can be achieved, and you will see a lot a mass gains.

High reps, lower weight will cause your muscles to be "longer" and more aimed towards endurance. lifting this way will help reduce body fat more than power lifting and it will bring out the tone in your muscles, but not necessarily expand them at all.

You will have to spend a few months cutting down if you plan on bulking up with a power lifting workout program.
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Will you shut the **** up. You just said in another thread that 16 is too young for creatine.
what's ur problem man?
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stupidest post i have read today
why is it stupid? sorry still a bit of a noob when it comes to the "science" of lifting
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There is no difference. If you lift heavy, your muscles will expand, yielding strength and size- the muscles are built to be "explosive." With a proper mass building program, large strength and size gains can be achieved, and you will see a lot a mass gains.

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You will have to spend a few months cutting down if you plan on bulking up with a power lifting workout program.
wow.......i would tell you why your wrong but i actually don't have the time (srs) it would take far to long to explain it all
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what's ur problem man?
already pretty bulked, just looking to get toned
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wow.......i would tell you why your wrong but i actually don't have the time (srs) it would take far to long to explain it all
i would actually appreciate an explanation because i have actually read that in many places. I realize i don't know everything about lifting (obviously i don't think it's a science a**hole) i'm only 19. But if you're gonna tell me im wrong and insult me at least say why
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i would actually appreciate an explanation because i have actually read that in many places. I realize i don't know everything about lifting (obviously i don't think it's a science a**hole) i'm only 19. But if you're gonna tell me im wrong and insult me at least say why
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Old 04-29-2009, 07:37 PM   #22
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There is no difference. If you lift heavy, your muscles will expand, yielding strength and size- the muscles are built to be "explosive." With a proper mass building program, large strength and size gains can be achieved, and you will see a lot a mass gains.

High reps, lower weight will cause your muscles to be "longer" and more aimed towards endurance. lifting this way will help reduce body fat more than power lifting and it will bring out the tone in your muscles, but not necessarily expand them at all.

You will have to spend a few months cutting down if you plan on bulking up with a power lifting workout program.
LOL Please man, go find a cliff and leap... if you're gonna come in with the broscience at least sound somewhat intelligent. Muscle bellies are genetic and the length/shape is all genetic. Don't use the word toned either, you look like a fool.

Powerlifters will spend their time training for power, putting up large numbers to win their competitions. Yes, powerlifters do have good size, but they are usually high bodyfat. Bodybuilders focus on isolation movements, which is what brings out things like rear delts, and gives better seperation to your muscles, especially when dieting down for competitions.
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what's ur problem man?
His problem is that stupid fu**s like yourself post while they have ABSOLUTELY ZERO knowledge of what they are talking about, and actually hurt people's progress because you are the ones that think muscle bellies and abs are the same things
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LOL Please man, go find a cliff and leap... if you're gonna come in with the broscience at least sound somewhat intelligent. Muscle bellies are genetic and the length/shape is all genetic. Don't use the word toned either, you look like a fool.

Powerlifters will spend their time training for power, putting up large numbers to win their competitions. Yes, powerlifters do have good size, but they are usually high bodyfat. Bodybuilders focus on isolation movements, which is what brings out things like rear delts, and gives better seperation to your muscles, especially when dieting down for competitions.
Wtf i wasn't wrong with what i said you just think you're mr. hotshot sayin pretty much the same thing i said in different words. Excuse me for using the word toned instead of cut, this is like my second time ever posting on these forums filled with egotistical asshats. and yes, i hate you
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There is no difference. If you lift heavy, your muscles will expand, yielding strength and size- the muscles are built to be "explosive." With a proper mass building program, large strength and size gains can be achieved, and you will see a lot a mass gains.

High reps, lower weight will cause your muscles to be "longer" and more aimed towards endurance. lifting this way will help reduce body fat more than power lifting and it will bring out the tone in your muscles, but not necessarily expand them at all.

You will have to spend a few months cutting down if you plan on bulking up with a power lifting workout program.
There is a difference. And really first off, high reps and lower weight doesn't make ur muscles "longer"... WTF is that even supposed to ****ing mean!

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Sacroplasmic hypertrophy and myofibrillar hypertrophy

Bodybuilders more commonly undergo the first form of hypertrophy. Its the growth of the fluids n such around the contractile proteins of the muscles. This results in a larger increase in size with slight strength gains. This is acheived with the upper level of reps ~8-15(upwards of 20 reps)

Powerlifters, and olympic lifters more commonly undergo myofibrillar hypertrophy. This is the growth of contractile proteins in muscle, resulting in larger gains in strength and smaller gains in size. This happens more in lower rep ranges, ~1-6.


If ur goal is max size and strength then either switching off bodybuilding routines and powerlifting routines or combine both rep ranges in your routine.
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Wtf i wasn't wrong with what i said you just think you're mr. hotshot sayin pretty much the same thing i said in different words. Excuse me for using the word toned instead of cut, this is like my second time ever posting on these forums filled with egotistical asshats. and yes, i hate you
Um...not at all were you even close.




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His problem is that stupid fu**s like yourself post while they have ABSOLUTELY ZERO knowledge of what they are talking about, and actually hurt people's progress because you are the ones that think muscle bellies and abs are the same things
The f*** are you even talking about. I never even said the words muscle bellies or abs in that post.....

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Low reps, heavy weight = strength and size
high reps, lighter weight = definition

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The f*** are you even talking about. I never even said the words muscle bellies or abs in that post.....

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Low reps, heavy weight = strength and size
high reps, lighter weight = definition

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high reps lighter weight doesn't = definition.

Thats like the people at the gym saying, " I just wana tone, so im doin 15 reps yo"
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high reps lighter weight doesn't = definition.

Thats like the people at the gym saying, " I just wana tone, so im doin 15 reps yo"
I do 15 reps on tricep pressdowns, just looking to tone them up a lil.
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high reps lighter weight doesn't = definition.

Thats like the people at the gym saying, " I just wana tone, so im doin 15 reps yo"
i said this before but i realize i don't know everything. I have always been told that more reps will increase definition.
So if higher reps doesn't cause you to get more definition, what does higher reps do
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