Help Me GUYZ Shutdown from 3rd day of havoc

[hosam_sz]

Hello guys, I been taking havoc for 3 days just for 10 mg / day. Today i woke up and i guess my testicles have shrinked to half size whatsssss the solution.
I have Nolva, Clomid, 6oxo, Retain2. Please reply fast.
Cant it happened shutdown at only 10mg at third day

[patmedown167]

I've never heard of shrinkage of that magnitude....nor have I heard from anyone being shutdown after 3 days. If it is of concern maybe you should stop the cycle and begin your PCT. Hope someone else can chime in!

[Skigazzi]

3 days, 10mg...my opinion is that shutdown and atrophy at this point is 100% impossible on Havoc...especially the atrophy part.

Id just stop the cycle cold turkey, as this is probably all mental.

[WIULifter]

also, this is something to know when going into almost any PH cycle, shutdown can/will occur so be prepared.

but i agree, 3 days of Havoc, i think its mental bro

[hosam_sz]

Originally Posted by Skigazzi

3 days, 10mg...my opinion is that shutdown and atrophy at this point is 100% impossible on Havoc...especially the atrophy part.

Id just stop the cycle cold turkey, as this is probably all mental.

Originally Posted by WIULifter

also, this is something to know when going into almost any PH cycle, shutdown can/will occur so be prepared.

but i agree, 3 days of Havoc, i think its mental bro

Originally Posted by patmedown167

I've never heard of shrinkage of that magnitude....nor have I heard from anyone being shutdown after 3 days. If it is of concern maybe you should stop the cycle and begin your PCT. Hope someone else can chime in!

I dont know but i felt the shrinkage from my second day, anyway i was thinking of increasing the dosage but i will not,i think it is NOT mental like u said guyz i say noticeable shrinkage. i will see a doctor tommorrow so hope there will be no problem.

ANY SUGGESTIONS

[Hansolo261]

when was your last cycle?

[hosam_sz]

Originally Posted by Hansolo261

when was your last cycle?

This is actually my PH first cycle

[AFOX]

I doubt it also, but who cares, any cycle will shut you down. Just enjoy the cycle, run a good PCT, and all will be fine.

[hosam_sz]

Originally Posted by AFOX

I doubt it also, but who cares, any cycle will shut you down. Just enjoy the cycle, run a good PCT, and all will be fine.

So u r saying just continue cycle as is and after that take a good pct and thats all, will there will be an increase in side effects of i continue.
"reps for all replies"

[Oddball8945]

34 y/o did you do any research at all before you decided to take an oral steroid?

[manofmany]

I don't believe it. I wasn't completely shutdown after 3 weeks on, and the 3rd week at 30mg. Libido was slightly decreased, but nothing major.

[hosam_sz]

Originally Posted by Oddball8945

34 y/o did you do any research at all before you decided to take an oral steroid?

I did alot of research for more than a year and half before deciding my cycle. The reason for choosing havoc because it is very mild, but i didnt know that it could shut me down in 3 days

[bajaboy]

never heard of this either... i would prob drop this cold turkey and try an AI or something if you wanna go hormonal.

I dont think this is a life/death situation but is it really worth it in the long run?

[put5onyo]

OP- What you need to do is head to your local FedEx, place your Havoc bottle in a box, and put my address on it.

You are not ready for the world of AAS if you feel shutdown after three days @ 10mg of Havoc. Get your mind right before you try again.

[hosam_sz]

Originally Posted by manofmany

I don't believe it. I wasn't completely shutdown after 3 weeks on, and the 3rd week at 30mg. Libido was slightly decreased, but nothing major.

I dont know, how i was shutdown in 3rd day specially at only 10m.g, but its like a very strong decrease in firmness of testicles, i feel it became much smaller and solid and i think its definitely a shutdown.
If i am sure can i start my pct right away i have both nolva and clomid also a bottle of 6OXO and a bottle of retain2 any help or suggestions guys.
If yes whats the perfect dosage

[mafty]

Originally Posted by hosam_sz

I dont know, how i was shutdown in 3rd day specially at only 10m.g, but its like a very strong decrease in firmness of testicles, i feel it became much smaller and solid and i think its definitely a shutdown.
If i am sure can i start my pct right away i have both nolva and clomid also a bottle of 6OXO and a bottle of retain2 any help or suggestions guys.
If yes whats the perfect dosage

you know your balls shrink when your cold right?..........i think its something other than atrophy, especially only 3 days in. i think your scaring yourself and others are right that DS are not for you. just stop taking the pills if your concerned

[hosam_sz]

Originally Posted by mafty

you know your balls shrink when your cold right?..........i think its something other than atrophy, especially only 3 days in. i think your scaring yourself and others are right that DS are not for you. just stop taking the pills if your concerned

Yes as u said its exactly like balls shrinking in the cold where there is no any firmness and they are solid, is it not atrophy.
I am little bit scared about the shutdown thing, but i am very excited and motivated like hell to start the cycle i ve been researching for more than a year.

SO IS IT ATROPHY OR JUST COLD SHRINKAGE OR REGULAR SHRINKAGE HAPPENS BY JUST CONSUMING TABLETS.

[Problem]

so you been researching for more than a year, and you didn't know that this may happen? uhuh

10mg for 3 days will not shut you down, but it will in the long run, and havoc does cause test atrophy. why are you even bothering running havoc at 10mg? i hope you'd notice anything, i doubt it.

Man up, seriously. If you have a PCT lined up, your balls will drop again.

[Ases]

Sounds pretty weird, are you taking any other ph's alongside havoc?

My balls shrinked on epi but only after 2-3 weeks

[ibrahimsi]

Havoc just scratched the surface of an already existing problem that was about to show up.

I blame your balls for not having the balls.

[macclain2k]

its your body better safe than sorry, but every cycle I did my balls shrunk especially on bold/tren, tren felt like the plague, but even with otc pct back then I rebound fine, not sure I would risk otc pct, but you got all the right stuff in place, im in day 3 of epi, day 17 of phera, just started noticing a little shrinkage, usally by now would be alot more

[AdrenalRush8o8]

can your balls return to near normal size after your cycle? considering that you run a good PCT

[conik]

Originally Posted by hosam_sz

I did alot of research for more than a year and half before deciding my cycle. The reason for choosing havoc because it is very mild, but i didnt know that it could shut me down in 3 days

I agree i feel this is mental. One, as im sure you're aware the mind can do some crazy things, placebos for example trick you into thinking you're taking something to help cure you're problem how ever its just a suger pill. But they almost always seem to work. Looking at the facts its you're first PH, its obviouse being shut down is a big worry to you (you chose havoc b/c its mild). so I would'nt doubt its all mental. youre paranoid, relax, take a deep breath, and enjoy it.

[hosam_sz]

Originally Posted by Problem

so you been researching for more than a year, and you didn't know that this may happen? uhuh

10mg for 3 days will not shut you down, but it will in the long run, and havoc does cause test atrophy. why are you even bothering running havoc at 10mg? i hope you'd notice anything, i doubt it.

Man up, seriously. If you have a PCT lined up, your balls will drop again.

thanks man so much for the encouragement, i appreciate it and it motivated me all over again.
and i will see a doctor tom to make sure that everything is all right.

[hosam_sz]

Originally Posted by Ases

Sounds pretty weird, are you taking any other ph's alongside havoc?

My balls shrinked on epi but only after 2-3 weeks

I am taking only havoc along with cycle support, taurine, proteins, cissus and vitamins and its my first cycle

[hosam_sz]

Originally Posted by ibrahimsi

Havoc just scratched the surface of an already existing problem that was about to show up.

I blame your balls for not having the balls.

Its weird and funny at the same time, i am afraid u r correct and if its impossible to shutdown at 10mg in 3 days,therefore i am the one who had the problem and havoc triggered it up.

Any way i am going to see a doctor tomorrow and inform u guys whats the problem

[hosam_sz]

Originally Posted by conik

I agree i feel this is mental. One, as im sure you're aware the mind can do some crazy things, placebos for example trick you into thinking you're taking something to help cure you're problem how ever its just a suger pill. But they almost always seem to work. Looking at the facts its you're first PH, its obviouse being shut down is a big worry to you (you chose havoc b/c its mild). so I would'nt doubt its all mental. youre paranoid, relax, take a deep breath, and enjoy it.

Thanks alot bro for ur motivation, me too i hope its only a mental problem and i will try to relax enjoy the cycle

[hosam_sz]

I don't know if that is normal or not,but i am constantly urinating, about 8 times daily and 2 times i wake up to urinate, since i started my cycle from 3 days So is that normal.

Reps for all advices

[Ruthless By Nature]

Originally Posted by put5onyo

OP- What you need to do is head to your local FedEx, place your Havoc bottle in a box, and put my address on it.

You are not ready for the world of AAS if you feel shutdown after three days @ 10mg of Havoc. Get your mind right before you try again.

I don't think you're ready for Havoc if you think it's an AAS.

anyways, it's definitely mental, or you just have tiny balls and never really looked at them.





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