This was going to be my point... Outside of hardcore powerlifting/strongman gyms you pretty much never see anyone able to handle 400lb+ on benchpress. Anyone who does has spent time developing and strengthening their chest.
And yes, I agree, if a 143lb teenager came up to me telling me how to lift I'd laugh in their face. Funnily enough at my work there's a guy similar to that except he weighs less than 135lbs, who believes he is the fountain of knowledge of body development. I really enjoy hearing about his 120kg shrugs and 20kg single arm front raises (which when I challenged him to lift something weighing 27kg in front of him with 2 arms suddenly turns into "my shoulders are ****"). Not to mention how awesome kickbacks are for triceps and how it has aided the development of his 11 inch cannons. Although the piece de resistance was "The burning sensation you get when doing crunches is the fat being burnt away".
@Oskar98: Please inform us of your max bench, so that we can get pecs like yours....
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06-04-2014, 10:03 AM #91
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06-04-2014, 09:41 PM #92
I agree whole-heartedly. Its a touch or a pause... Same way the people attempt to bounce during deadlifts...
I've attempted to offer some polite advice to a few individuals with bad form and/or bouncing. Most get a straight bro-titude and get angry that they have an inflated ego. Therefore, I've stopped offering advice to people during a workout, unless they come ask.5/3/1 BBB V2 LOG: forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163430781
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06-04-2014, 11:38 PM #93
I usually do full ROM, but with heavy weight I go about an inch or so from my chest. Being 6' 4" I've got some really long arms so I definitely feel some stressful tension being put on my rotator cuff when I do full ROM with really heavy weight. I think it depends on the individual, but for most people I would say all the way to the chest is the way to go.
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06-04-2014, 11:44 PM #94
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06-05-2014, 12:02 AM #95
quoted for truth.
people are so concerned over whether or not other people are touching their damn chest. Do I? Yeah. I'm 5'9" and have a 69 inch wingspan, why wouldn't I? But my buddy who's 5'10" and has a 76" wingspan doesn't because it ****s with his shoulders. He gets good results, so do I. To each his own!August 2023:
BW: 194
B: 315 x 3, 225 x 14 (PR: 335)
S: 315 x 2, 225 x 18 (PR's)
DL: 405 x 1 (PR); Trap Bar DL: 405 x 1
OHP: 185 x 3 (PR), 135 x 16
Chins: 22(PR) Pushups: 83 (PR: 101)
1 Mile: 6:45 (PR: 5:52)
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06-05-2014, 02:00 AM #96
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06-05-2014, 04:27 AM #97
Most people have arm spans = to body length, some have arm spans many inches greater than body length aka long ass arms. Some people have shallow chests others have deep chests. A person with short arms relative to body height and a deep chest relative to body height has a shorter range of motion when benchpressing than someone with long arms and a shallow chest relative to body height. Some people have greater sternal angles aka a convex chest and others a shallow sternal angle or a chest that is flat or very slightly concave. Not everyone can comfortably get the bar to the chest without placing the glenohumoral joint in a hyper extended weak position to press from. Over stretching a muscle also reduces it's ability to contract because it reduces the surface contact of the myosin and actin fibers creating a very weak initial starting point for the muscle to contract.
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06-05-2014, 06:57 AM #98
IMO, unless you have any injury that prevents it, if you are not touching your chest then you can't call it a bench press, just name it a "bend elbows press". Unless you have a absurdly large arm span, if you do the bench press properly (shoulder blades retracted, leg drive, etc etc) you'll most likely aways touch your chest.
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06-06-2014, 03:16 PM #99
Touching the best is much safer. If you stop before the bar touches the chest, you are exposing your shoulders to much more stress from completely stopping the momentum of the barbell. There are assistance exercise like the floor press/board press where the barbell stops midway, but the bar is stopped by something like a board on the persons chest.
Bench - 405
Deadlift - 625
Squat - 455
OHP - 255
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