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    Anator, myozene, anabolic window.Which is the PWO beast?

    It's come down to these 3 ; profile wise.For those who have used all 3, which one is better in terms of :
    1)recovery
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    3)mass gains(assuming a strict PWO diet protocol 2:1 carbs to protein)

    i would care less about the taste.
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    when you look for a post workout supp, then look to get one that has not only sugars as carb source. most of those products are not only overloaded with carbs but use mainly sugar. If I remember correctly, the only exception from this was DS replenish with a very reasonable amout of carbs (30 g) and quite some fibers.
    I mix my own pwo shake, but if I had to buy a commercial one I would definitively go with replenish.

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    Originally Posted by Dr.P View Post
    when you look for a post workout supp, then look to get one that has not only sugars as carb source. most of those products are not only overloaded with carbs but use mainly sugar. If I remember correctly, the only exception from this was DS replenish with a very reasonable amout of carbs (30 g) and quite some fibers.
    I mix my own pwo shake, but if I had to buy a commercial one I would definitively go with replenish.

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    thnx bro, i'll keep that in mind but unfortunately, it isn't yet available here.
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    my opinion

    Originally Posted by antish View Post
    It's come down to these 3 ; profile wise.For those who have used all 3, which one is better in terms of :
    1)recovery
    2)strength
    3)mass gains(assuming a strict PWO diet protocol 2:1 carbs to protein)

    i would care less about the taste.
    I would love to try Nutrabolic's Anabolic Window.. BUT.. the amount of ethyl esters (together with the lack of science research backing their effectiveness nor effects on the body) puts me off.. if only they had 'de-esterized' all the esters.. they'd have a winner there
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    Originally Posted by lionelxxl View Post
    I would love to try Nutrabolic's Anabolic Window.. BUT.. the amount of ethyl esters (together with the lack of science research backing their effectiveness nor effects on the body) puts me off.. if only they had 'de-esterized' all the esters.. they'd have a winner there
    Im not a science-guy but I do know that esterifying the aminos does not harm the product as you make it sound. I have compared Esterified Arginine to Regular Arginine, Esterified Creatine to Regular Creatine and Esterified BCAAs to Regular BCAA's and in my trials (all lasting over 30+ days) I found better results using the esterified versions.

    To answer the initial poster's question, the thing that I really like about Anabolic Window, that I think stands out from the rest of the products in this category, isnt the protein (everyone uses isolate/hydrolosate/whey) or even the added aminos and types of creatine/glutamine, but it is the timed-release carb complex we use, which consists of Modified Potato Starch & Trehalose & D-Glucose & Glucose Polymers). I used to use similar other products and after about 1 hr post-workout I would feel as if my body was going through an insulin shock because the carbs were too many, too fast, and too quickly absorbed in my body. With Anabolic Window there is no crash, and I almost feel like this product continues working until my next meal.

    There is no substitute to great diet, however post-workout nutrition is one of the biggest factors in putting on muscle and it is good to see different companies FINALLY making such great products for consumers.
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    Anabolic Window looks great. I wanna try how it tastes first thoguht
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    Originally Posted by smh31 View Post
    Anabolic Window looks great. I wanna try how it tastes first thoguht
    Unlike any of our other protein/gainers, the Anabolic Window was developed using a similar flavoring system to that you would find in a fruity product like Nectar. The lemonade is really good, and the prototype for Melon-Apple is great.
    There are some funky tasting natural ingredients in this product, like whey hydrolosate & Esterified BCAA's, however the flavoring system in Anabolic Window pretty much masks the taste and makes for a refreshing postworkout shake.
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    I prefer Aftershock to these especially price wise. It is a solid product. I am trying Deserusans TP mix this week should be here Weds.
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    Yeah definitely take advantage of Hal's awesome chart. Personally I just like some whey with dextrose in water. Has been working fine for me, these post workouts seem a bit expensive if you take into consideration the ingredients.
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    i'm gonna run anabolic window in february.Yeah, the time released carb complex impressed me too.
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    i'm gonna run anabolic window in february.Yeah, the time released carb complex impressed me too.
    Cool! Keep a log, if possible, so everyone can view.
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    I prefer Aftershock to these especially price wise. It is a solid product. I am trying Deserusans TP mix this week should be here Weds.
    I like the inclusion of the joint complex in AfterShock, but I wish it's lone protein source was not Whey Concrentrate. If it was a Whey Hydro product it would probably be one of the best on the market!
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    Originally Posted by antish View Post
    It's come down to these 3 ; profile wise.For those who have used all 3, which one is better in terms of :
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    i would care less about the taste.

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    Originally Posted by ElMariachi View Post
    Vitargo + Whey + Micronized Creatine Monohydrate<<<<All Others.
    I agree.

    I am waiting for someone to make a formula with waxy maize starch until then I will make my own at tp.
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    Originally Posted by Serpens Aeon View Post
    I'm enjoying Xtreme Formulations' "Relentless" right now with an additional 10g of Leucine.

    As I will be in the very near future. How long have you been using it? What do you think about it?
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    I agree.

    I am waiting for someone to make a formula with waxy maize starch until then I will make my own at tp.
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    Vitargo + Whey + Micronized Creatine Monohydrate<<<<All Others.
    I would add leucine to that, otherwise I totally agree
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    Originally Posted by ElMariachi View Post
    Vitargo + Whey + Micronized Creatine Monohydrate<<<<All Others.
    This would imply that you think that combo is less than all the others????
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    Originally Posted by Jon-Nutrabolics View Post
    I like the inclusion of the joint complex in AfterShock, but I wish it's lone protein source was not Whey Concrentrate. If it was a Whey Hydro product it would probably be one of the best on the market!
    I agree but I still like it.
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    I used Optimum Nutrition's After Max from hal's thread, but I used it a while back and had no complaints. It was a great PWO supplement.
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    This would imply that you think that combo is less than all the others????
    lol, yeah. lol.

    Shoud use the >>>

    anyway, WPI, WMS, creapure, leucine and a complex carb. Don't forget the electrolytes as well. I'd also like some glucose added.
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    I agree.

    I am waiting for someone to make a formula with waxy maize starch until then I will make my own at tp.
    The modified potato starch in Nutrabolics' Anabolic Window is very similar (if not identical) to waxy maize starch. If I am not mistaken, Waxy Maize Starch is patented to another company, which is why we used Modified Potato Starch in ours. Plus ours has the Trehalose, which I have been reading good things about.
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    Originally Posted by Jon-Nutrabolics View Post
    The modified potato starch in Nutrabolics' Anabolic Window is very similar (if not identical) to waxy maize starch. If I am not mistaken, Waxy Maize Starch is patented to another company, which is why we used Modified Potato Starch in ours. Plus ours has the Trehalose, which I have been reading good things about.
    Interesting. Is the modified potato starch a high molecular weight carb? Thats what makes wms so good.
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    Originally Posted by naturalguy View Post
    Interesting. Is the modified potato starch a high molecular weight carb? Thats what makes wms so good.
    This is the info I have been given on Modified Potato Starch which makes it even Better that Waxy Maize Starch:

    Modified Potato Starch has unique characteristics which allows them to function in ways which are truly unique. Due to its very high molecular weight, high phosphate content, and high viscosity potential, this products often out perform the derivatives of corn, waxy maize, and other starches by wide margins.

    Again, I am not a science guy, but if you have a specific question letme know.
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    Originally Posted by Jon-Nutrabolics View Post
    This is the info I have been given on Modified Potato Starch which makes it even Better that Waxy Maize Starch:

    Modified Potato Starch has unique characteristics which allows them to function in ways which are truly unique. Due to its very high molecular weight, high phosphate content, and high viscosity potential, this products often out perform the derivatives of corn, waxy maize, and other starches by wide margins.

    Again, I am not a science guy, but if you have a specific question letme know.
    Thats pretty cool if thats the case. I am going to do some research.
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    Originally Posted by naturalguy View Post
    Thats pretty cool if thats the case. I am going to do some research.
    Cool. Maybe we should start a Modified Potato Starch thread!
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