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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    For some reps.





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    Super System by Doyle Brunson
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    I have also heard Barry Greenstein's book is good, as well as Dan Harrington books.

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    Originally Posted by SolidSnake84 View Post
    maybe it's just me but i feel like SS is outdated these days. this coming from a big fan of doyle...but it's useless for online poker...and a lot of the concepts are dated as well...i suppose it's a good book for learning the basics and fundamentals and some starting up strategy...tbh i dont read much of anything on poker and i think a lot of the reading material is just a guide...i mean it's poker...its simple to learn but it basically comes down to knowing your opponent, maximizing value of your hands, learning others tendencies...there's a lot of sub-sections other than the cards themselves...a lot of people read 2+2 forums, but me personally i just prefer the experience of playing...eventually you will learn from your mistakes and gain the necessary knowledge to profit...if u dont, poker is not ur game....i dont think any book can tell u how to play tho...i guess i am just one of those people that thinks that u either got it or u dont...in terms of being able to read people, bluff people, etc...

    should also mention that having discipline is one of the most underrated aspects of the game...all the focus seems to go on the actual play, but people forget that without discipline, such as being able to handle bad beats, and a LOT of them, often slung together...and as being able to manage your bankroll without taking too many shots trying to move up, or playing out of your range...i learned a lot of these lessons the hard way myself, and i think going thru the experience has made me MUCH more solid of a player and extremely confident. im not knocking on books...they can be a great tool for some, but i simply dont gain anything from them...i like to be my own teacher...do u think people like doyle read books on poker strategy? no...they went out and played every day...day after day...and gathered their own knowledge...just like a scientist would like with an experiment...and in that way, i think doing all the work yourself and getting first hand experience makes you much more aware and knowledgable than reading about it.

    /rant
    How about stuffs like getting value from not checking or checking and stuffs like that, +EV/-EV etc etc, where do you guys read up for that
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    Do tell.

    Flush on the board and a straight on the board.

    I go all in with my flush and he calls with his straight :| Poor guy, I slow played it.
    Just didn't make any moves. It was my first time playing in a while. I folded a pair of pocket 8's that would have given me a full boat. After that I was done for.
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    Originally Posted by Rizen View Post
    Wooo WSOP final table tonight!

    Ivey Ivey Ivey!

    although i have bets on ivey, shulman and cada
    So we won't get to see their hole cards since its live, right?

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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    Exactly what I mean by skill level. I got called down earlier, he had kings I had a set.

    I had A2 in my hand, he had pocket kings.

    Flop - A 4 9

    He bets 450 (pot was 400)
    I call.

    Turn - A
    He checks
    I check

    River - Q
    He bets 600
    I go all in
    he calls

    he rages asking why I called on the flop.

    My name is rather intimidating in itself. PokerStars name = ImTheProphet
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    Yea, I find that when playing IRL at house games vs friends, I can rip my friends that are actually GOOD at poker and know a lot, but I can't take any money from anyone else.

    Same at the casino's. lol
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    Originally Posted by Suit View Post
    What trackers do you guys use? I almost want to get Hold'em Manager but thats a lot of money...
    theres a 15 day free trial. How many hands have your played?

    make sure your computer is up to date if you have a large database. when i try to run HEM while multitabling full tilt lags like hell
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    Originally Posted by SolidSnake84 View Post
    maybe it's just me but i feel like SS is outdated these days. this coming from a big fan of doyle.

    /rant
    I found it very useful actually. Poker is still poker, cards are still the same... chances and %'s are still the same, how can it be outdated?

    It helps you with the card aspect a lot. No poker book will tell you how to play poker, it will help you is all. Otherwise, brb reading phil ivey's book and being like him.

    "Cause these donkeys never figured out that the game wasn't about cards. It was about people." - Stu Ungar

    Originally Posted by Alfz View Post
    How about stuffs like getting value from not checking or checking and stuffs like that, +EV/-EV etc etc, where do you guys read up for that
    I just watch a lot of poker... really a lot and I just study how people play their hands and in what position.

    A good movie, me and my friends really liked it, is Stu Ungar's documentary. Just watch it for what it is though.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EAO9...om=PL&index=14

    Originally Posted by Loctus View Post
    [ ] You had a set
    [x] You had trips
    OOPS I AM SORRY. Next time I will be more careful when identifying my three cards of the same type.

    Originally Posted by theend2 View Post
    theres a 15 day free trial. How many hands have your played?

    make sure your computer is up to date if you have a large database. when i try to run HEM while multitabling full tilt lags like hell
    I had played probably 500 hands on FT with no tracker. I switched to PS 2 days ago and have played a good 200 hands.
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    So we won't get to see their hole cards since its live, right?
    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...im gonna dvr it, didnt know it was tonite
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    Moon is such a chump.
    It's funny 'cause it's true. This live broadcast is hilarious.
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    i go into $1/$2 table to make some quick cash. I fold everything and wait for the monster hand. Finally i get AA. Raise that **** up and 2 other players go into the flop. Flop comes Qs 4s Ah. I have trips A. The bitch goes all in. I go all in of course and the other guy goes all in. Damn bitch had to spades and was chasing the flush. And she hits the flush fuuuuuuuuuuuu.

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    Originally Posted by SlapChopper View Post
    QQ < AQ AI PF. Begleiter out against Moon.
    whoa guys keep the final table chat down for a bit, i havent seen it yet!!! FUUUUUUUUUU now i know 2 people are out already

    brb avoiding thread until i watch it
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    Originally Posted by SolidSnake84 View Post
    whoa guys keep the final table chat down for a bit, i havent seen it yet!!! FUUUUUUUUUU now i know 2 people are out already

    brb avoiding thread until i watch it
    TBF, if you're online on a poker thread, you should kinda expect it.

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    Damn you Locus, spotted a crazy fish at NL1k, dropped a 100, spotted him at NL2k, dropped another 200 Even had HU hands with him with AA, KK, AK etc but his J4o and Q2o never made top pair for him to pay me off I've never seen someone spew 7g so quick, I just never got a piece.

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    Originally Posted by TheGunShowMane View Post
    will ship $5 on FT to som1 who can tell me the song @ 45:35....

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/s...-the-world/4od

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    Originally Posted by TheGunShowMane View Post
    bump for $5


    also, slow progress this month.. up $1.4k so far tho after about 4 days of playing..





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    i go into $1/$2 table to make some quick cash. I fold everything and wait for the monster hand. Finally i get AA. Raise that **** up and 2 other players go into the flop. Flop comes Qs 4s Ah. I have trips A. The bitch goes all in. I go all in of course and the other guy goes all in. Damn bitch had to spades and was chasing the flush. And she hits the flush fuuuuuuuuuuuu.
    the moment i saw 2 spades i knew you lost to a flush lol
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    I've never seen so many sick beats in a session - referring to the ME Final Table

    jesus, so sick

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    Originally Posted by Rizen View Post
    I've never seen so many sick beats in a session - referring to the ME Final Table

    jesus, so sick
    The funny part about the beats is that each one of them is worth millions of dollars. Sweet.

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    yea i felt bad for kopp with his 3 4 of diamonds going against moon and q j of diamonds... crazy stuff!

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    lol, the swedish government owned pokersite Svenskaspel has some ****ed up tournaments. Today they have "Crazy Daddy". The payout structure is standard, BUT, the one who finishes in 7th wins more than 1st.

    Like:

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    2. $75
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    Just as an example

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    Originally Posted by Loctus View Post
    lol, the swedish government owned pokersite Svenskaspel has some ****ed up tournaments. Today they have "Crazy Daddy". The payout structure is standard, BUT, the one who finishes in 7th wins more than 1st.

    Like:

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    lol bet it's mayhem after the 8th guy gets knocked out...probably the entire table is shoving all in hoping to lose lol
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    Originally Posted by SolidSnake84 View Post
    lol bet it's mayhem after the 8th guy gets knocked out...probably the entire table is shoving all in hoping to lose lol
    That is probably what will happen, BUT, with the result that the guy with the SHORTEST stack gets 7th and all the others manage to get in 6th 5th 4th for no real reason. Thus, unless you are the shortest stack or 2nd shortest, just fold that hand for most profit.

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    Originally Posted by Loctus View Post
    That is probably what will happen, BUT, with the result that the guy with the SHORTEST stack gets 7th and all the others manage to get in 6th 5th 4th for no real reason. Thus, unless you are the shortest stack or 2nd shortest, just fold that hand for most profit.
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    Originally Posted by jonnyshap View Post
    yea i felt bad for kopp with his 3 4 of diamonds going against moon and q j of diamonds... crazy stuff!
    That was a hilariously stupid play. He deserved to get knocked out lol, especially on the paired board.

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