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    AK, AQ, AJ and A10 and my least favourite (playable) hands, seriously.

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    Originally Posted by SlapChopper View Post
    The point of limping is that you show weakness. Seriously. Just don't limp. If the pot is folded to you and you have a hand that you want to play, you raise. If you raise every hand that's folded to you that you play, then no one will know the strength of your hand. (assuming you just raise a standard 3x raise). It's not that difficult.
    Until people with decent cards start to call or raise back. Then they see you are raising with legitimate hands. If someone knows you either fold when you have hsit cards and raise with good ones, then you're not going to make much money.

    Originally Posted by SlapChopper View Post
    Open limping = teh gay. Do you want to be gay?
    Your strategy is really simple and lame. You'd get demolished in a real game.

    Originally Posted by Rizen View Post
    AK, AQ, AJ and A10 and my least favourite (playable) hands, seriously.
    They're not great heads up, they're drawing hands and do well against 2-3 ways since then you're getting odds to catch. If the board fits and you make a pair, you're probably best hand if only 2-3 people are in, and late position you can usually get a good read whether you are. If we're talking NL or PL, you can ensure you take the current pot... Plus 50/50 against a pair heads up isn't terrible.
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    id raise with 75suited UTG

    yes serious

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    I think some people are way too obvious with their bets, especially when someone folds most hands, then goes all in pre-flop, you know they have something good.

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    Originally Posted by ptwa9 View Post
    They're no good heads up, they're drawing hands and do well against 2-3 ways since then you're getting odds to catch.
    wut?

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    Originally Posted by ptwa9 View Post
    Until people with decent cards start to call or raise back. Then they see you are raising with legitimate hands. If someone knows you either fold when you have hsit cards and raise with good ones, then you're not going to make much money.



    Your strategy is really simple and lame. You'd get demolished in a real game.



    They're not great heads up, they're drawing hands and do well against 2-3 ways since then you're getting odds to catch. If the board fits and you make a pair, you're probably best hand if only 2-3 people are in, and late position you can usually get a good read whether you are. If we're talking NL or PL, you can ensure you take the current pot... Plus 50/50 against a pair heads up isn't terrible.
    your post made me lol, seeing posts like yours makes me remember why poker is so profitable for good players. Donkeys like you will never learn.

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    Originally Posted by ptwa9 View Post
    Until people with decent cards start to call or raise back. Then they see you are raising with legitimate hands. If someone knows you either fold when you have hsit cards and raise with good ones, then you're not going to make much money.



    Your strategy is really simple and lame. You'd get demolished in a real game.



    They're not great heads up, they're drawing hands and do well against 2-3 ways since then you're getting odds to catch. If the board fits and you make a pair, you're probably best hand if only 2-3 people are in, and late position you can usually get a good read whether you are. If we're talking NL or PL, you can ensure you take the current pot... Plus 50/50 against a pair heads up isn't terrible.
    level?

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    Originally Posted by MrGreenz View Post
    wut?
    AK unsuited, you have pretty much 6 outs or ~14% chance of completing. That's 6 to 1 odds against improving per card. Worse than a 4 flush. Against a pocket pair you're 50/50. Tell me how much $ you expect to make heads up...?

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    Originally Posted by ptwa9 View Post
    AK unsuited, you have pretty much 6 outs or ~14% chance of completing. That's 6 to 1 odds against improving per card. Worse than a 4 flush. Against a pocket pair you're 50/50. Tell me how much $ you expect to make heads up...?
    math is idiotic

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    Originally Posted by lacey23 View Post
    I'm pretty sure if you were actually using SS'ing strat you would have sat out at that blind since you have 40bb's.

    SS'ing nl10 is pretty pointless anyways.
    o rly?
    how come i signed up to party poker last night with 60 usd and now have 120 playing this strategy
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    Originally Posted by Rizen View Post
    math is idiotic

    l2p
    So expected value is idiotic? Guess all the top players are sheep then

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    Look at it this way - if you raise preflop with AK (which you should) then someone willing to call that flop has decent starting cards. If you miss the flop, and are 2nd to act and they bet, you have to fold since you're probably beat and only have a small shot of improving to top pair. If you're first to act, you can semi-bluff with an additional bet, but you lose that bet if they hit the flop or were rolled up. If you fold, then you've lost your preflop raise. If your opponent does not call your pre-flop raise, then you've only won the blinds, with what you consider a good hand.

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    Originally Posted by ptwa9 View Post
    Look at it this way - if you raise preflop with AK (which you should) then someone willing to call that flop has decent starting cards. If you miss the flop, and are 2nd to act and they bet, you have to fold since you're probably beat and only have a small shot of improving to top pair. If you're first to act, you can semi-bluff with an additional bet, but you lose that bet if they hit the flop or were rolled up. If you fold, then you've lost your preflop raise. If your opponent does not call your pre-flop raise, then you've only won the blinds, with what you consider a good hand.
    Hahaha troll or for realz?
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    Originally Posted by ptwa9 View Post
    Look at it this way - if you raise preflop with AK (which you should) then someone willing to call that flop has decent starting cards. If you miss the flop, and are 2nd to act and they bet, you have to fold since you're probably beat and only have a small shot of improving to top pair. If you're first to act, you can semi-bluff with an additional bet, but you lose that bet if they hit the flop or were rolled up. If you fold, then you've lost your preflop raise. If your opponent does not call your pre-flop raise, then you've only won the blinds, with what you consider a good hand.
    did you read a book recently?

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    ptwa9 get the **** out of this thread. now. no don't keep reading this, hit that x in the top right hand corner. better yet, pm me your site / sn, and play me headsup.

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    Does anyone know of any portable poker platforms? One I can run from my flash drive at work?

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    Good valid points. You got game. Clearly.

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    Originally Posted by Rizen View Post
    did you read a book recently?
    lol repped
    Little money never told big money what to do.

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    Originally Posted by ptwa9 View Post
    They're not great heads up, they're drawing hands and do well against 2-3 ways since then you're getting odds to catch. If the board fits and you make a pair, you're probably best hand if only 2-3 people are in, and late position you can usually get a good read whether you are. If we're talking NL or PL, you can ensure you take the current pot... Plus 50/50 against a pair heads up isn't terrible.

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    nh, but I'm going to assume you're not a 3/6 Omaha regular
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    Originally Posted by KryptoKnight View Post
    nh, but I'm going to assume you're not a 3/6 PLO regular
    errr it was NL Omaha hi-lo

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    what you talkin about willis?
    if your quads are smaller than your arms... you're doing it wrong
    -sadly ACL surgery has shrunk my quads :(

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    Originally Posted by KryptoKnight View Post
    nh, but I'm going to assume you're not a 3/6 Omaha regular
    * no limit omaha high/low
    *I has nut low draw on the flop ( probably top high atm as well with AA )
    *SB is a monkey and will spew all over the table with nothing
    *Turn : I has nut low draw , nut flush draw , still very likely ahead with AA if he is waiting for some low to hit .
    * I is shocked he hasn't hit his 9 outs
    * I has profitz

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    Originally Posted by KryptoKnight View Post
    nh, but I'm going to assume you're not a 3/6 Omaha regular
    Probably a tilting, take a shot success, if he posts a hand of the standard ol' 'Stack a Donk'

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    hay guise did i play good today???

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    Lots of terribad advice in this thread. The people who say they hate AK,AQ,AJ, ect. the problem is people just play those hands incorrectly.

    Understandable though if your new, but for you new guys..don't take a lot of the advice here too seriously. Loctus seems like he knows what he's talkin about but I only skimmed.

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    I love Omaha Hi/lo. It's my favorite game after NL Holdem.

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    Originally Posted by joelz54_99 View Post
    Man I was trying to bust this dude playing me with what seem top pair. I had As5s flop came out to two spades and a K. he bet high I called, he bet high again and I called didnt get the spade on the river. phuck had to fold. Iam sure he had his K paired or had a set.
    So you're a calling into high bets with a 3:1 shot heads up? You obviously had no fold equity, so it all depends on what the chances are you figure he was bluffing... but doesn't seem like a good play from what you describe.

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