Need a kick in the ass! (reps for help)

[Ted Nugent]

so i havent bought any supp besides whey and vit-c for well over a year and im unsure what is "good" these days in the supp world. im getting into the nitty-gritty of my cut and im finding i really need something for energy in the gym. Ive tried a few stim supp sample packets including Fyre, ReDuction, Supercharge, and Adipo-X. they have all gave me a nice boost and just felt fired up, just what i needed. Now ive tried drinking straight coffee pre-workout and it just doesnt have the same effect. What are some solid products for energy, if it has a NO product built in i'll also consider that.

[Ted Nugent]

this looks like a solid blend, nothing to crazy, just some quality ingredients. whats the opinion on this? (SciVation Dialene)

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/dialene4x.html

[donoh]

Cryoshock would be a great choice. White Flood is good as well.

[headinahole]

wms (carbs) .. real cheap choice

caffiene pills... cheap

nitric oxide.. mostly placebo but w/e they work

[swolee]

Cryoshock would be a great choice. White Flood is good as well.

two scoops of white flood will light a fire under your ass

[headinahole]

two scoops of white flood will light a fire under your ass

It's one of my favorites.

Going to try ****'s wtf pump'd during pct, heard great things.

[khergan]

These were my favorite NO stim products so far (no particular order):

MHP Dark Rage
AEN Presurge
CL White Flood


All great products that give a great pump as well as energy.

[Ted Nugent]

forgot to mention, im not looking for a NO product, but if there is a agreed upon stim that HAPPENS to also have NO i'll buy it, but im really looking for a energy only supp. also looking at Goliath Labs Thermoloid...

[drd0013]

two scoops of white flood will light a fire under your ass

+2

def works for me

[headinahole]

forgot to mention, im not looking for a NO product, but if there is a agreed upon stim that HAPPENS to also have NO i'll buy it, but im really looking for a energy only supp. also looking at Goliath Labs Thermoloid...

Get some caffeine pills then.

[khergan]

forgot to mention, im not looking for a NO product, but if there is a agreed upon stim that HAPPENS to also have NO i'll buy it, but im really looking for a energy only supp. also looking at Goliath Labs Thermoloid...

Why not? A lot of "NO" products have a great blend of stimulants, blood volumizers and nootropics that a plain stimulant pill won't have. I love getting increased pumps, but hey to each his own.

If you want straight stim goodness + increased focus try APS Phenadrine. It's absolutely top notch and is pretty much exactly what you're looking for.

[Ted Nugent]

Get some caffeine pills then.

well i did the straight caffeine route before and the energy wasnt as "intense" as the stim samples i tried. and with the stims i felt "hotter" (temp) and more fired up. Thermoloid looks like a good deal, buy 2 get 1 free and the blend looks good and its only $40 and has much more than just caffeine?

60 Capsules
Supplement Facts
Serving Size2Capsules
Servings Per Container30
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Chromium (As Chromium Picolinate) 100mcg 83%
Proprietary Thermogenic Fat Burning Complex 888.02mg **
Green Tea Extract (45% EGCG) **
Caffeine Anhydrous **
Yerba Mate **
Guarana Extract (22% Caffeine) **
Citrus Aurantium Extract (6% Synephrine)(Fruit) **
L-Carnitine (As L-Carnitine L-Tartrate) **
White Willow Extract (As Salix Alba)(15% Salicin)(Bark) **
Alpha-Lipoic Acid **
Guggulsterones 99% **
Bioperine **
Fat/Carb Blocking And Appetite Supressing Blend 404mg **
White Kidney Bean **
Chitosan **
CLA **
Evodiamine (10% Evodiamine) **
South African Hoodia Gordonii (From 20:1 Extract)(Aerial)

[Ted Nugent]

Why not? A lot of "NO" products have a great blend of stimulants, blood volumizers and nootropics that a plain stimulant pill won't have. I love getting increased pumps, but hey to each his own.

If you want straight stim goodness + increased focus try APS Phenadrine. It's absolutely top notch and is pretty much exactly what you're looking for.

yeah im not against NO products at all, i was just thinking a strictly energy product would be more effective and cheap, but if theres a NO/combo product that does it i'll gladly buy it i'll look into that phenadrine stuff, thanks!

[Ted Nugent]

also considering buying some bulk Caffeine+Yohimbine HCL+ mayeb some synephrine/carnitine or cayyene extract?

[8footballQB]

white flood gave me way more energy and focus than pumps/ vascularity. may be wat your looking for

[Ted Nugent]

white flood gave me way more energy and focus than pumps/ vascularity. may be wat your looking for

this seems to be a popular choice, def gonna consider it. how does the energy last? between cardio/weights i need a solid 1-2 hours of energy.

[8footballQB]

maybe try out the tablets, people say they have better slow release longer lasting energy. for me, i liked the powder. hit me right away and lasted for my hour of training. this with xtend or purple wrath would be a nice combo for lasting energy

[WeltDog]

white flood gave me way more energy and focus than pumps/ vascularity. may be wat your looking for

I would drink white flood on my way to school cuz i have advanced pe which is strictly weight training and cardio and by the time I walked out of the locker room to go lift i was laughing and ppl would be like wtf is wrong with you and jumping off the walls! It prob wasnt the smarters idea since i was barely 16 but i still didnt have any side effects except i wanted to lift until i passed out lol

[Crush505]

Ted, I really noticed Intrabolic from Athletic Edge Nutrition. Seriously, both me and my training partner got a much better workout. We both got a lot stronger and saw measurable muscle gains. We're probably older than you so hey if it works for us it should for you. The only problem I had was I was growing too fast. My muscles grew in size and strength but my ligaments and tendons didn't catch up as fast. So I had to back off. This was before some surgery so I'm on the mend. I'm already set to buy more , but I'd definitely go with the Citrus Ice, I haven't heard much good about the taste of the apple. Rumor has it that they are coming out with a new flavor soon! Hope this helps!

[khergan]

PROTIP to the OP:

White Flood is still an "NO" product. If you're not interested in that, don't get White Flood.

[Ted Nugent]

PROTIP to the OP:

White Flood is still an "NO" product. If you're not interested in that, don't get White Flood.

yeah im aware of white flood being a NO product. im really torn between getting a strictly energy vs a NO/energy product. cost is the main issue and its looking like the energy/stim only products will be the best bang for my buck. but im very strongly considering some SP 250 or WF. im hella indesicive so that isnt helping either lol

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

Ted, I really noticed Intrabolic from Athletic Edge Nutrition. Seriously, both me and my training partner got a much better workout. We both got a lot stronger and saw measurable muscle gains. We're probably older than you so hey if it works for us it should for you. The only problem I had was I was growing too fast. My muscles grew in size and strength but my ligaments and tendons didn't catch up as fast. So I had to back off. This was before some surgery so I'm on the mend. I'm already set to buy more , but I'd definitely go with the Citrus Ice, I haven't heard much good about the taste of the apple. Rumor has it that they are coming out with a new flavor soon! Hope this helps!

Great to hear you enjoying IntrAbolic and yes we are coming out with a new flavor in the not too distant future. Also, if you aren't aware, the product of ours IntraXCell that is supposed to be stacked with IntrAbolic is being offered right now buy two get one free http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=115594331

[Ted Nugent]

Great to hear you enjoying IntrAbolic and yes we are coming out with a new flavor in the not too distant future. Also, if you aren't aware, the product of ours IntraXCell that is supposed to be stacked with IntrAbolic is being offered right now buy two get one free http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=115594331

i know AEN is geting good feedback on here so im def gonna look into their products. would buying bulk caffeine, argininne, beta alanine, etc and just mixing them myself be just as effective as many of the higher priced blends offered? im just saying this is because most of the products im looking at are basically those three ingredients plus maybe some carnintine and some other things.

[bloodsimple1234]

give Phenadrine a shot,everyone that tries it really likes it!

[dexterium]

I am sure that Jack3d would be the best option for you. Jack3d will get you wired for sure. And it has NO in it for good pumps.

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

i know AEN is geting good feedback on here so im def gonna look into their products. would buying bulk caffeine, argininne, beta alanine, etc and just mixing them myself be just as effective as many of the higher priced blends offered? im just saying this is because most of the products im looking at are basically those three ingredients plus maybe some carnintine and some other things.

Yeah, IntrAbolic is nothing like that, it's hydrolyzed whey protein(70-80% di-and tripeptides), free-form amino-acids, beta-alanine and electrolytes and it's designed to be sipped on throughout your workout.

Our preWO product PreSurge is also WAY more than caffeine and arginine is a waste in terms of NO.

If you are just looking for a stim/buzz, I agree just stick with caffeine but if you are looking for a complex of strength increases/NO boosters and energy/focus, there's no comparison!

IntrAbolic Reviews- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...Edge+nutrition
PreSurge reviews- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...edge+nutrition
IntraXCell Reviews- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...Edge+nutrition

[Roun3er]

OP if you are looking for something cost effective try something like:

iSatori Energize, 84 Tablets
42 servings for like $20-$25

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2 Tablets
Servings Per Container: 42
Amount Per Serving
Thiamin 5.2mg
Vitamin B-6 25
Folic Acid 200mcg
Vitamin B-12 3mcg
Magnesium 150mg
Proprietary Navitas Formula 1.6g
L-Tyrosine
Glucuronolactone
Natural Caffeine
Theobromine
Rhodiola extract
Asian Ginseng
Octacosanol

[adrenergic]

Slim Xtreme or Adrenaline or Phenadrine.

[deadpool9]

I have taken Stacker2 before for just the energy boost. It is the only caffeine I consume though. I know it doesnt seem well liked around here, but worked good for me for energy.

The bad thing is that I usually work out at around 5:30-6:00 PM, and it would keep me awake until about 2:00 AM.

[cyde]

Supplements aside ...you need to eat more food, brah. I've seen your diet, and it's not much. No supplement will help if you aren't eating enough to sustain energy & cut in a healthy manner.

Supplement advice: get some caffeine powder or pills. It's cheap.