People who will move down at the 09 Olympia

[SluggoSteel]

either Dennis wolf or Jay cutler will not make the top 5. The top 4 guys will be:

(not in order)
Dexter Jackson
Victor Martinez
Kai Greene
Phil Heath

wolf and cutler will occupy the 5 and six spots, maybe lower depending on toney freemans physique this year. Silvio, Melvin anthony and dennis james will most likely place 7 or lower, putting them in a placement lower than the 08 olympia.

the 09 and 08 olympia are very interesting due to the injuries and such. who knows about those rumors about ronnie going for an olympia run again as well, which could also stir up the top 10 ranking.

[Zane_Fan]

Jay will move down for sure.
I wouldn't be surprised if Dex moves down, he ain't winning another one.

[OneLoveLiftHard]

I would of had Wolf in that top 4 instead of Vic personally. Wolf has shown he is one of the world's best (even when he is off), so its up to Vic to prove himself again after his injury. Don't forget if Tony is on he can beat Vic too.

My top 5 (in no order, and assuming this will be one of their best showings):
Dex
Heath
Wolf
Kai
Freeman

[xplicid01]

I would of had Wolf in that top 4 instead of Vic personally. Wolf has shown he is one of the world's best (even when he is off), so its up to Vic to prove himself again after his injury. Don't forget if Tony is on he can beat Vic too.

My top 5 (in no order, and assuming this will be one of their best showings):
Dex
Heath
Wolf
Kai
Freeman

people still have faith in freeman? never hits nails his conditioning.

Dex will win, ill rep bet on it now. They are not going to pass the torch until they have a legacy for the next guy secured. i think Vic my win 3 or 4 before either wolf or heath establish themselves as the number 1.

[wilwn]

i think jay will move down

[OneLoveLiftHard]

people still have faith in freeman? never hits nails his conditioning.

Dex will win, ill rep bet on it now. They are not going to pass the torch until they have a legacy for the next guy secured. i think Vic my win 3 or 4 before either wolf or heath establish themselves as the number 1.

Thats the thing about Freeman, everyone (including the judges) knows that if he is on he is extremely tough to beat, and working with Plaumbo seems to be the best thing for him so I can't wait to see him at the Olympia when he will be competing later in the day when it will be easier for him to come in full and ripped!

[Big Slim DaDDy]

Jay will move down if he shows up same as last year. He'll place somewhere at the top if he duplicates 2006.

[stealth_swimmer]

I would of had Wolf in that top 4 instead of Vic personally. Wolf has shown he is one of the world's best (even when he is off), so its up to Vic to prove himself again after his injury. Don't forget if Tony is on he can beat Vic too.

My top 5 (in no order, and assuming this will be one of their best showings):
Dex
Heath
Wolf
Kai
Freeman

Wolf will beat Vic? I dunno. He hasn't done it so far. And Toney hasn't beaten Vic before either. Possible, but i just don't think it'll happen. It COULD though.

I think Kai will beat Wolf if Wolf comes in like last year or the year before. I think Wolf will probably stay in the top 5 though.

people still have faith in freeman? never hits nails his conditioning.

Dex will win, ill rep bet on it now. They are not going to pass the torch until they have a legacy for the next guy secured. i think Vic my win 3 or 4 before either wolf or heath establish themselves as the number 1.

Freeman was in condition last year, and every time he's been off, he's known exactly why he was off.

[C-DUBB]

am i the only one who thinks Jay will MAYBE win it this year? If you've all forgotten, Jay is an unstoppable force when he is the underdog, and most of all, in second place. Jay is still young, and he has muscle maturity and knowledge of many of the upcomers. I wouldnt count Jay out for ONE second.

[Outlined]

Wolf moved up a spot last year even though he admittedly came in flat. Why would he move down two placings this year?

[woofman81]

Wolf moved up a spot last year even though he admittedly came in flat. Why would he move down two placings this year?

Kai and Victor weren't in last year's Olympia.

Just throwing that out there.

[_Muskelberg_]

LOL

I just wanted to post my top 5 for this year.

But then a realized that it is impossible to make predictions.

Sick, will be a great Mr. O 2009 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[romeo196]

kai and vic are a big threat in the 09 olympia, I will be surprised if dexter wins..

[caslad]

heath will win
jay dex vic and kai will be others in top 5

[Supercows]

Jay will move down for sure.
I wouldn't be surprised if Dex moves down, he ain't winning another one.

i feel the same way, if it was fair.
But I have a feeling politics will leave him in second place.

[adbramsay]

if jay comes in at his all time best he will be hard to beat period. so discount jay at your own peril. however my top 5 in no particular order are

wolf
dex
heath
jay
vic

[Eightpak]

if jay comes in at his all time best he will be hard to beat period. so discount jay at your own peril. however my top 5 in no particular order are

wolf
dex
heath
jay
vic

I agree with this. Kai won't be making top five. But then again the politics are strong in the Olympia.

[OneLoveLiftHard]

Wolf will beat Vic? I dunno. He hasn't done it so far. And Toney hasn't beaten Vic before either. Possible, but i just don't think it'll happen. It COULD though.

The only reason I said that is because its almost as if Vic has something to prove all over again because 1. His leg injury and 2. His loss at the Arnold. Wolf on the other hand came in flat last year and was still in the top 4 at the O.

[bopps822]

Some of the posts here are a little crazy. Kai not in the top 5? You cant be serious. Jay will be top 3, top 4 at worst. Dexter is not winning again, and Dennis Wolf is so over rated, its been beaten to death. If everyone comes in conditioned, who is he going to beat? Dex? no Heath? no. Kai? no. Definitely not Jay. Definitely not Vic. Wolf will be battling it out with Toney for top6 or 7 spots. My personal feelings are that Phil will win. He is the poster boy for the future of the sport. He's young, marketable, Weider, and IMO looked better than Dex did at last years O. His main concerns should be Jay, Vic, and Kai.

[stealth_swimmer]

The only reason I said that is because its almost as if Vic has something to prove all over again because 1. His leg injury and 2. His loss at the Arnold. Wolf on the other hand came in flat last year and was still in the top 4 at the O.

yeah I guess but Vic's leg injury didn't have such a terrible visual result on his leg. Plus he usually saves his best conditioning for the Olympia. So I think as long as he comes in condition, he beats Wolf.

[corvin25]

Some of the posts here are a little crazy. Kai not in the top 5? You cant be serious. Jay will be top 3, top 4 at worst. Dexter is not winning again, and Dennis Wolf is so over rated, its been beaten to death. If everyone comes in conditioned, who is he going to beat? Dex? no Heath? no. Kai? no. Definitely not Jay. Definitely not Vic. Wolf will be battling it out with Toney for top6 or 7 spots. My personal feelings are that Phil will win. He is the poster boy for the future of the sport. He's young, marketable, Weider, and IMO looked better than Dex did at last years O. His main concerns should be Jay, Vic, and Kai.

Agreed!

why?......heres a copy and paste from other thread:

With momentum on his side and a proven track record and consistent placings as well as consistent conditioning and improvement if the veterans slip I gotta go with Heath ftw..he has yet to disappoint unless you count 2nd at the Arnold and 3rd (shoulda been 2nd or even could have won with no complaints) at the O, remember this..he entered 3 shows last year and only lost to 2 men..Jay and Dex.

Agreed, will be an exciting show and open for a few possible scenarios but I like Heaths odds...Kai has equally impressed me and is no doubt a huge threat to win it all...I'm looking forward to the 2 of them side by side for the traditional apples vs oranges comparison.

Wolf has potential but he hasn't proven squat except that he should have beat an out of shape Cutler 2 years ago (but in hindsite that was Victors show to win anyway and many had Cutler down n 5 place or more). Allot of pros have potential but until Wolf can win a show or two or get up in the top 2/3 of the big ones then I'll give him the serious contendor look...as it stands although he CAN be a threat the jury is still out on him...I wish he would have did the Arnold or something before the O to quiet the critics..he had hernia surgery I understand but so did Kai a few months ago.

Vic has some lower body work to do but of course can surprise us most definitely a threat to win...Jay has some severe issues.

...and Dex well just like the man said and I quote: "just give me one, I'll be happy with one yall can have it back next year"..I think that is exactly what will happen..

[MuscleSportMag]

Victor was at the NY Metro Show on Saturday and looked huge. He was wearing jeans and a t-shirt but was popping out through them. He will be tough in Vegas.

[Coal Man]

heath will win
jay dex vic and kai will be others in top 5

This.

[Coal Man]

Some of the posts here are a little crazy. Kai not in the top 5? You cant be serious. Jay will be top 3, top 4 at worst. Dexter is not winning again, and Dennis Wolf is so over rated, its been beaten to death. If everyone comes in conditioned, who is he going to beat? Dex? no Heath? no. Kai? no. Definitely not Jay. Definitely not Vic. Wolf will be battling it out with Toney for top6 or 7 spots. My personal feelings are that Phil will win. He is the poster boy for the future of the sport. He's young, marketable, Weider, and IMO looked better than Dex did at last years O. His main concerns should be Jay, Vic, and Kai.

you, sir, are a genius

[woofman81]

Some of the posts here are a little crazy. Kai not in the top 5? You cant be serious. Jay will be top 3, top 4 at worst. Dexter is not winning again, and Dennis Wolf is so over rated, its been beaten to death. If everyone comes in conditioned, who is he going to beat? Dex? no Heath? no. Kai? no. Definitely not Jay. Definitely not Vic. Wolf will be battling it out with Toney for top6 or 7 spots. My personal feelings are that Phil will win. He is the poster boy for the future of the sport. He's young, marketable, Weider, and IMO looked better than Dex did at last years O. His main concerns should be Jay, Vic, and Kai.

I have a feeling this will happen as well. With Phil taking the whole year off for this Olympia, he will make the most improvements before the O. The guy continues to make huge strides before each showing.

That and yes, he would be a great poster boy for the sport. He speaks very well compared to most pro's.

[zmcdole]

I seriously doubt that Wolf will move down in the Olympia unless he gets hurt or something else happens. He has Freeman beat IMO. Plus Freeman's pec tear dont help. The Olympia title is Dex's to loose. He will be conditioned. You can bet on that. However, if Cutler comes in conditioned and not crappy looking, he will be a threat. Wolf looks amazing when on. I don't think Kai can break the top 3 just yet. top 5 in no order:

Dex
Wolf
Cutler (maybe Coleman?)
Martinez
Kai

[rocco421]

as big of a wolf fan as i am, i think vic should win. wide shoulders, full muscle bellies, small waist....if he brings his legs up slightly and hits his conditioning...i dont think anyone touches him. kai has a lot of muscle but i think his front double bi looks awful bc of the way his abdomen expands so much. jay has the most muscle but i think hes past his prime. phil will be better than dex this year but i dont think its his time yet.

[zmcdole]

I seriously doubt that Wolf will move down in the Olympia unless he gets hurt or something else happens. He has Freeman beat IMO. Plus Freeman's pec tear dont help. The Olympia title is Dex's to loose. He will be conditioned. You can bet on that. However, if Cutler comes in conditioned and not crappy looking, he will be a threat. Wolf looks amazing when on. I don't think Kai can break the top 3 just yet. top 5 in no order:

Dex
Wolf
Cutler (maybe Coleman?)
Martinez
Kai

I forget phil heath he will easily beat kai IMO. My new top 5 in no order:
Dex
Heath
Cutler
Wolf
Martinez

If Cuter comes in off (very likely) insert coleman or Kai

[Beefcaker]

I just want to know how you momos know how conditioned and improved every single one of these guys are going to be come time for the show?

[Big Slim DaDDy]

Some of the posts here are a little crazy. Kai not in the top 5? You cant be serious. Jay will be top 3, top 4 at worst. Dexter is not winning again, and Dennis Wolf is so over rated, its been beaten to death. If everyone comes in conditioned, who is he going to beat? Dex? no Heath? no. Kai? no. Definitely not Jay. Definitely not Vic. Wolf will be battling it out with Toney for top6 or 7 spots. My personal feelings are that Phil will win. He is the poster boy for the future of the sport. He's young, marketable, Weider, and IMO looked better than Dex did at last years O. His main concerns should be Jay, Vic, and Kai.

I'm more of a heath fan but I would never call Wolf overatted. He placed top 4 when he was off FFS.


I want to see Kai compared with Melvin.