So I was updating my Blue Gene log (which I'm still in the midst of doing...) I was thinking about putting off my ECY stack till mid summer and consider either another round of Amphetalean, Animal Cuts OR give Mitotropin a try.
...I'm just skeptical. I haven't been around a lot as of late and too busy doing my own research to place time to research the science behind mitotropin... so I need some good bro-science to help me out here? Thanks.
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04-10-2009, 12:54 PM #1Figure it out
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Mitotropin, honestly the BEST 'fat burner'/thermo out there? (aside from ECY/ECA)
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04-10-2009, 01:13 PM #2Figure it out
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04-10-2009, 03:52 PM #3Registered User
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Honestly, I think it is the best on the market currently. I have never used ECA or ECY, but I used thyrotabs with great sucess, and Mito put it to shame. I have seen very few if any negative reviews of this stuff.Originally Posted by Rob Awesome
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04-10-2009, 03:53 PM #4four left turns to go...
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in my educated opinion, it might be.
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04-10-2009, 03:55 PM #5Count Stackedula
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Read the description in the store. It discusses the various pathways it exploits, what mitochondrial uncoupling is/does, etc.
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04-10-2009, 03:56 PM #6Registered Abuser
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This stuff is a mitochondrial uncoupling agent?
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04-10-2009, 03:58 PM #7Count Stackedula
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Yes, but please do not confuse it with DNP or Usnic Acid. Once again, refer to the store write up for more in depth information. I could just regurgitate what it already says but there is no point.Originally Posted by Drumkid20
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04-10-2009, 03:58 PM #8Certified D-Bag
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im about to start it out. im excited but im extremely reluctant to drastically lower my carbs like they want me to since my current diet works well for me
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04-10-2009, 03:59 PM #9Registered User
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it is definately the most powerful fat loss product that ive ever used
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04-10-2009, 04:00 PM #10Count Stackedula
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Then don't. Nothing is set in stone. Make adjustments when you see applicable.Originally Posted by Money Shot
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04-10-2009, 04:05 PM #11Certified D-Bag
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thats's what I might do. btw should I wait to take it since today was my last day taking an NO? I want to feel all the stim effects so I might have to wait it out 3 weeks unfortunatelyOriginally Posted by ncangey0513
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04-10-2009, 04:20 PM #12Figure it out
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I don't know why, but this is a difficult decision for me
I'm either going with Mito, Animal Cuts or Amphetalean.Enter.at.your.own.Pleasure
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04-10-2009, 04:22 PM #13four left turns to go...
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of those three it really isnt much of a decision.
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04-10-2009, 04:22 PM #14Figure it out
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I've had good experiences with Animal cuts and Amphetalean.Originally Posted by nni
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04-10-2009, 04:29 PM #15Former Active Duty Marine
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I got some samples yesterday of Mitotropin and I felt terrible the whole day.
My current supplements:
Orange Triad
Fish Oil
Myofusion (Chocolate Mint)
Stimulant X
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04-10-2009, 04:32 PM #16insert witty comment here
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i picked up a bottle after seeing some of the awesome reviews. starting in a week.
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04-10-2009, 04:34 PM #17Sides were pretty bad for me too. Lethargy and headache.Originally Posted by I3arbarian
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04-10-2009, 04:37 PM #18Former Active Duty Marine
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Same here manOriginally Posted by BigCool
My current supplements:
Orange Triad
Fish Oil
Myofusion (Chocolate Mint)
Stimulant X
ON's Aftermax
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04-10-2009, 06:24 PM #19Registered User
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i like this answer. i'm using it now, with good results. other reps have been telling people to stick to the diet and workouts in the book. if you change your diet and workout, how can you tell if the product does anything? (it does)Originally Posted by ncangey0513
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04-10-2009, 06:43 PM #20Gettin ripped
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I lost as much weight on mitotropin as i did from my EC stack. Def the best out.
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04-10-2009, 06:51 PM #21nom nom nom
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My intention when formulating Mitotropin was to make the best product in it's class so I'm glad guys are enjoying it. For those of you who experienced lethary that is a side effect from uncoupling. One way to offset that is to increase your carbs a bit. Let me know if you guys have any questions.
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04-10-2009, 08:16 PM #22uh huh.......Originally Posted by nni
I lost 14lbs with Mito last Nov. and made me realize, I can really have a semi-fun, worry free bulk for months at a time and just know that along with a good diet and workout, Mito will help me kick that fat out faster than ever."I'm special, you're special. We are all just a bunch of special fcukers!" - Stifler
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04-10-2009, 09:06 PM #23Bob Loblaw
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YepOriginally Posted by zachattack43
It is really the only "fat burner" that has really worked for me. Ive tried many out there, and they are sometimes good for energy/focus but didn't do much in terms of fat loss. Mito really impressed me and is my favorite Gaspari supplement.God bless/science be with our military
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04-10-2009, 09:10 PM #24⊙▂⊙
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I wrote up a no BS review of Mito & LX (ran separately) if you're interested in reading. Starting & finishing weight + before/after pictures included. Honestly I didn't have to say anything. The results speak for itself.
Review
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Detailed log
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04-11-2009, 09:10 AM #25Figure it out
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I sent deserusan some thoughts I had about mitochondrial uncoupling and oxidative phosphorylation...
just waiting on a response.
Then I'll probably purchase Mitotropin.Enter.at.your.own.Pleasure
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04-11-2009, 09:32 AM #26brb... lifting :D
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I'm interested in running Mitotropin as well some time in the (near) future. One question I have as we are discussing Mitotropin in this thread is how harsh is this on the thyroid function? Some products really tout the T4 and T3 manipulation -- the write up for Mitotropin does not go into too much other than this and this doesn't seem too harsh or "hardcore-scary" to me... (in other words, a responsible, "healthy" approach to this pathway... imo)
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This is a polyphenolic ingredient found in numerous edible plant species. It has the ability to increase energy expenditure and oxygen consumption via multiple pathways (dia. 2007 Mar; 56(3):767-76.). The most prevalence pathway manipulated was Dio2 expression. This gene is important in encoding the type 2 deiodinase (D2) that activates thyroxine (T4) to 3,3?,5 triiodothyronine (T3).
Now some of you are thinking that increased T3 levels aren't a good thing, but maybe those of you that are "hardcore" know it certainly doesn't impair fat loss. In fact, T3 has been shown to UCP-3 expression in vivo which directly correlates with resting metabolic rate. Basically, if your levels are low, you aren't burning as many calories at rest then not. It's clear to me that keeping them optimal keeps you chances at maintaining a streamlined appearance very high.
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04-11-2009, 09:58 AM #27Figure it out
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I thought it interesting because iodine from food + the Amino Tyrosine = T3 & T4... T4 being produced @ 80% rate as opposed to T3, naturally...Originally Posted by Midnight_Lifter
And everyone knows that T3 is 4 times more potent/stronger than T4 in regulating metabolism.
I want to know how you're able to manipulate these gene regulations... you would need to selectively inhibit the disallowance of TRH (hypothalmic) and TSH (pituitary) disallowance to promote an increase in t3 & t4 activation to release and regulate metabolism...
and with UCP-3, this uncoupling protein is known to play a role in altering metabolic function under conditions of fuel depletion caused, for example, by fasting and exercise....
What about 5'-amino-4-imidazolecarboxamide ribonucleoside? This compound has been known to upregulate and activate AMP-activate protein kinases (AMPK)... also known to be activated during exercise or fasting. Treated With AICAR, skeletal muscle has been to known to increase 3-6 times the amount of available UCP-3 proteins compared to untreated muscle...
That'd be something I'd be interested in.Enter.at.your.own.Pleasure
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04-16-2009, 10:57 AM #28Figure it out
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Still waiting on a response from des....
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04-16-2009, 09:35 PM #29He is pretty busy guy, so maybe email him?Originally Posted by Rob Awesome
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04-17-2009, 01:49 AM #30
I have tried nearly all the fat burners that exist during the last 10 years on the market. I have also used T3/Clen/Eph so i have a pretty good experience.Let me tell you that Mito is the strongest thing i have ever used... i cannot believe the results. I am using 6 caps per day early in the day and before my workout at night i am throwing a nice ECA stack with 60mg EPH. This combination is working miracles as the thermogenic effect of Mito is not very intense.
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