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How much do you charge per session?
I'd just like to get some ideas here on what some of you are charging, i know it can vary a lot depending on where you are geographically..
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04-08-2009, 11:25 AM
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I'd just like to get some ideas here on what some of you are charging, i know it can vary a lot depending on where you are geographically..
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Depends on the clients.
25-30 bucks is normal.
Some also charge 45-75 bucks.
It really depends on who you are training, what you are doing, and what the client base around you is willing to pay.
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$25-$35 per session.
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04-08-2009, 12:42 PM
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perfect.. i've heard of some trainers charging up to $60 an hour but obviously they've built up to that point by good word of mouth, refferals, experience and proven results.
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04-08-2009, 12:45 PM
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perfect.. i've heard of some trainers charging up to $60 an hour but obviously they've built up to that point by good word of mouth, refferals, experience and proven results.
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Well, you can charge around 50 if you want, but you will get less clients.
Think of it this way. Most gyms charge 40-50 dollars per session.
So you could also charge that much for yourself if you wanted.
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04-08-2009, 12:51 PM
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true that, i was thinking of starting off cheap for sure($25) once i have a clientele built i can think about raising prices, my goal is to get 20 sessions a week.
some simple math would state...
20 sessions a week X $25 a session = $500
and if the gym owner takes 25%
that leaves me with $375 a week X 4 =
$1500 a month for 20 hours of work. not bad
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Originally Posted by loudenator
true that, i was thinking of starting off cheap for sure($25) once i have a clientele built i can think about raising prices, my goal is to get 20 sessions a week.
some simple math would state...
20 sessions a week X $25 a session = $500
and if the gym owner takes 25%
that leaves me with $375 a week X 4 =
$1500 a month for 20 hours of work. not bad
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How old are you?
Some gyms take up to 60% or more, it really sucks.
I work at a YMCA, but I am trying to start training freelance on the side. I don't like the idea of them taking all my money.
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04-08-2009, 01:20 PM
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I'm turning 21 end of this month..
lol if the gym said they were going to take 60% of MY price on MY clients i'd tell them where to go, that's retarded anyone that would allow that to happen would have to be insane or un-educated on the fact.
Just bringing clients of my own into their gym facility is bringing them business, chances are their going to buy something within the facility at one point or another not to mention a membership?
Having said all that if the gym makes $125 off of me and my clients for the week they shouldn't be complaining, considering they didn't have to do anything at all except let me use the facility.
I think its about sitting down and negotiating with the owner, however if your trying to free lance within a big corp such as GOLDs their gonna want more but i'd say my best option and anyone else freelancing would be best off negotiating with a privately owned gym.
correct me if i'm wrong someone? i wish someone with experience could shed some more light onto how they operate while freelance training.
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where im from the average price is 60-110 per hour session
edit: Jersey tri-state area
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04-08-2009, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by loudenator
I'm turning 21 end of this month..
lol if the gym said they were going to take 60% of MY price on MY clients i'd tell them where to go, that's retarded anyone that would allow that to happen would have to be insane or un-educated on the fact.
Just bringing clients of my own into their gym facility is bringing them business, chances are their going to buy something within the facility at one point or another not to mention a membership?
Having said all that if the gym makes $125 off of me and my clients for the week they shouldn't be complaining, considering they didn't have to do anything at all except let me use the facility.
I think its about sitting down and negotiating with the owner, however if your trying to free lance within a big corp such as GOLDs their gonna want more but i'd say my best option and anyone else freelancing would be best off negotiating with a privately owned gym.
correct me if i'm wrong someone? i wish someone with experience could shed some more light onto how they operate while freelance training.
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Cool, I'll be 21 on the 28th of this month.
Yeah, I was talking to a guy that I know, he works at a gym and trains people that are members there. But he trains them himself, he doesnt do it through the gym, so he gets the money. The gym doesn't know about it so I guess its ok.
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04-09-2009, 01:02 AM
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Where i'm from $75-$150 per hour
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Originally Posted by loudenator
I'm turning 21 end of this month..
lol if the gym said they were going to take 60% of MY price on MY clients i'd tell them where to go, that's retarded anyone that would allow that to happen would have to be insane or un-educated on the fact.
Just bringing clients of my own into their gym facility is bringing them business, chances are their going to buy something within the facility at one point or another not to mention a membership?
Having said all that if the gym makes $125 off of me and my clients for the week they shouldn't be complaining, considering they didn't have to do anything at all except let me use the facility.
I think its about sitting down and negotiating with the owner, however if your trying to free lance within a big corp such as GOLDs their gonna want more but i'd say my best option and anyone else freelancing would be best off negotiating with a privately owned gym.
correct me if i'm wrong someone? i wish someone with experience could shed some more light onto how they operate while freelance training.
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your showing your youth. They pay for the insurance, the contracts, the payment processing, that 125$ is not alot if you break it fully down.
the gym im at pays 40% comission unless you train more then 30 sessions every two weeks then you get 60% comission.
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Originally Posted by x2thez53913
your showing your youth. They pay for the insurance, the contracts, the payment processing, that 125$ is not alot if you break it fully down.
the gym im at pays 40% comission unless you train more then 30 sessions every two weeks then you get 60% comission.
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also most gyms make it very clear that THEY are no YOUR clients, they sign a contract with XYZ inc. and at anytime XYZ inc. reserves the rights to switch trainers and discountinue contractship with XYZ trainer.
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04-09-2009, 06:35 AM
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$80-90 a one hour session.
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04-09-2009, 11:02 AM
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also most gyms make it very clear that THEY are no YOUR clients, they sign a contract with XYZ inc. and at anytime XYZ inc. reserves the rights to switch trainers and discountinue contractship with XYZ trainer.
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Good points. Often they'll also make you sign a no-competition contract stating you can't train within x miles of the gym while employed.
Working for gyms is a scam. I'm surprised more people don't realize this. Granted, you have to do it to make your bones, but don't pretend it's something it's not.
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04-09-2009, 11:06 AM
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I just started my own personal training studio. I was working at a gym where the cost was 65$/hour where I only recieved 25$/hour out of it.
Now in my studio I charge 50$/hour and after only 1 month, I'm overflowing with client requests. I'm gonna be raising my prices a little bit soon though, that or hire another trainer.
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04-09-2009, 01:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by x2thez53913
your showing your youth. They pay for the insurance, the contracts, the payment processing, that 125$ is not alot if you break it fully down.
the gym im at pays 40% comission unless you train more then 30 sessions every two weeks then you get 60% comission.
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oh i can see your just full of old father wisdom,
the point of being a freelance training is YOU look after everything.. your own liability insurance, client contracts(drawn up with you and your lawyer), the payment process done at your will.. by doing this your in the driver seat.. that $125 a week is just the rent for using the facility.
hell if i owned a gym and some freelance trainer came to me and said ill give u x percentage on my clients to use your facilities and you don't have to worry about a thing, i wouldn't hesitate to take them up on that offer..?
anyways i think you may have misunderstood but i agree with you if the gym is providing insurance and doing the contracts the $125 would be next to nothing.
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04-09-2009, 01:59 PM
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I just started my own personal training studio. I was working at a gym where the cost was 65$/hour where I only recieved 25$/hour out of it.
Now in my studio I charge 50$/hour and after only 1 month, I'm overflowing with client requests. I'm gonna be raising my prices a little bit soon though, that or hire another trainer.
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If you're booked, hire another trainer. Depending on if that trainer actually likes to work, they can help bring in more clientele. You need to focus on your business
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04-09-2009, 02:00 PM
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Quote:
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I just started my own personal training studio. I was working at a gym where the cost was 65$/hour where I only recieved 25$/hour out of it.
Now in my studio I charge 50$/hour and after only 1 month, I'm overflowing with client requests. I'm gonna be raising my prices a little bit soon though, that or hire another trainer.
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unreal, congrats! that's my goal eventually, private studios are the way to go!
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unreal, congrats! that's my goal eventually, private studios are the way to go!
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Do your dues in a gym first, make a good name for yourself.
Alot of my clients when I first started my studio came from the gym I was working at. They decided they didnt want any other person training them so they came to me.
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04-09-2009, 09:44 PM
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I may have misunderstood but it sounds like you are just starting out. If you go to work as an employee you better plan on around a 60/40 cut. You getting the 40%. Now i know there are exceptions to this but those are very few and far in between.
Take into consideration the benifits of both sides (employee/independant). As a employee the clients come to you...allowing you to get experience in your sales as well as your training skills. You Share your income with the club. There is so much more to this job than just kicking someones butt for an hour.
As an independant you have the freedom to make the call on pay and schedule but it is harder to bring in new clients just starting out in the business. After you have a rep it becomes easier but it still takes experience to land and retain clients.
There are benifits to both in the beginning but in the big picture it feel doing your own thing after you have some experience will be much more rewarding if you are planning on doing more that just living paycheck to paycheck.
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04-10-2009, 07:50 AM
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32.50 for a half hour
45 - 60 for the hour
I prefer to stack up two half hours and make 32.50 for the hour since with the club its a 50/50 split
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I may have misunderstood but it sounds like you are just starting out. If you go to work as an employee you better plan on around a 60/40 cut. You getting the 40%. Now i know there are exceptions to this but those are very few and far in between.
Take into consideration the benifits of both sides (employee/independant). As a employee the clients come to you...allowing you to get experience in your sales as well as your training skills. You Share your income with the club. There is so much more to this job than just kicking someones butt for an hour.
As an independant you have the freedom to make the call on pay and schedule but it is harder to bring in new clients just starting out in the business. After you have a rep it becomes easier but it still takes experience to land and retain clients.
There are benifits to both in the beginning but in the big picture it feel doing your own thing after you have some experience will be much more rewarding if you are planning on doing more that just living paycheck to paycheck.
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you can work in a gym and not live paycheck to paycheck. I bring home about 3,500 a month with benefits and 401k and just learn to live within my means.
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04-10-2009, 12:46 PM
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$25-$50 jus depends on what kind of package they buy
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I just started my own personal training studio. I was working at a gym where the cost was 65$/hour where I only recieved 25$/hour out of it.
Now in my studio I charge 50$/hour and after only 1 month, I'm overflowing with client requests. I'm gonna be raising my prices a little bit soon though, that or hire another trainer.
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I'm in the same boat. Actually calling applicants today.
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If you're booked, hire another trainer. Depending on if that trainer actually likes to work, they can help bring in more clientele. You need to focus on your business
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DEF get another trainer in. You only have 24hrs in a day but if you hire someone else to work for you, thats when you can really make some money.
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In the long run, you want to train less and make more
My upper middle class, and hi-roller clientele do 1 on 1's, since they're spoiled, like being babysat, and can afford it throwing money around
I do have the lower middle class, and below to where i, or my trainers do group training with them. Many of them struggle to pay for a regular full hour session, so they go with the group, 2-5 (similar goals). They're charged less per hour, but when the hours done, more revenue is brought in $100+/hr, vs a regular 1 on 1 session.
Dont focus on just 1 on 1. Do groups too
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In the long run, you want to train less and make more
My upper middle class, and hi-roller clientele do 1 on 1's, since they're spoiled, like being babysat, and can afford it throwing money around
I do have the lower middle class, and below to where i, or my trainers do group training with them. Many of them struggle to pay for a regular full hour session, so they go with the group, 2-5 (similar goals). They're charged less per hour, but when the hours done, more revenue is brought in $100+/hr, vs a regular 1 on 1 session.
Dont focus on just 1 on 1. Do groups too
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I'd just like to get some ideas here on what some of you are charging, i know it can vary a lot depending on where you are geographically..
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Exactly, 100% depends on your location.
Obviously trainers in Beverly Hills will charge more per session than trainers in Mississippi, for 2 reasons: 1. People can pay more in Beverly Hills, and 2. The trainer needs to eat, charging $25 an hour in Beverly Hills will have you living on the street in a cardboard box.
You're in BC which I have heard (at least in vancouver) has some pretty wealthy people.
Here is 2 Ideas from my Experience in a very competitive San Francisco Personal Training Market:
1. ALWAYS study your competition. If the average trainer is charging $25 a session in your area and you charge $50, even with the best qualifications, probably 75% of the people will opt for the cheaper option, sucks but reality. Start w/ prices which are competitive with the other trainers in your area, if you blow up, you can slowly increase prices to accommodate for your increasing demand.
2. Do make your prices atypical. I have experimented with this so many times and I know that something like 10 sessions for $735 and 20 sessions for $1324 will do a helluva lot better than 10 sessions for $700 and 20 sessions for $1300, why? I have no idea but same as reason why everything is $9.99 instead of $10, etc.
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Do make your prices atypical. I have experimented with this so many times and I know that something like 10 sessions for $735 and 20 sessions for $1324 will do a helluva lot better than 10 sessions for $700 and 20 sessions for $1300, why? I have no idea but same as reason why everything is $9.99 instead of $10, etc.
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LOL..so true. It's a psychological thing i guess
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Do make your prices atypical. I have experimented with this so many times and I know that something like 10 sessions for $735 and 20 sessions for $1324 will do a helluva lot better than 10 sessions for $700 and 20 sessions for $1300, why? I have no idea but same as reason why everything is $9.99 instead of $10, etc.
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LOL..so true. It's a psychological thing i guess
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Im gonna have to try this out.....seems promising
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