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Old 04-06-2009, 05:29 PM   #1
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Bent over BB rows. Critque my form

Would like an unbiased opinion on my form. From what I can see its pretty decent. I think elbows could to be tucked in a little more. Go easy on me guys.

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Old 04-06-2009, 05:33 PM   #2
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heads straight up, knees are bent, backs arched and not rounded, weight is being controlled smoothly, all i can see is your not using the full ROM.
i give it a 8 out of 10. very good
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heads straight up, knees are bent, backs arched and not rounded, weight is being controlled smoothly, all i can see is your not using the full ROM.
i give it a 8 out of 10. very good
Do you think I should be bringing the bar a little higher(closer)?. This was done after deads and pullups....Maybe I should lower the weight a bit to get a full ROM

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Overall, not bad. Good back arch, movement was controlled; I'd agree that the only thing missing was a slightly fuller range of motion. Question: Why use straps? Was your grip trashed after doing deads and chins? Just wondering, as I never use straps (but that's just me).
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Do you think I should be bringing the bar a little higher(closer)?. This was done after deads and pullups....Maybe I should lower the weight a bit to get a full ROM

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Don't pull higher unless you are trying to isolate the middle back more, I use bent over rows as a lat blaster, pulling up your thighs to your waist as you are doing isolates them the best.

Focus on the elbow drive at the top and the squeeze,

A very wise man once said "If you can't hold the weight at peak contraction for a pause on your back exercises its too heavy, your not using muscular strength but momentum to move it there"

I paraphrased it but thats a brilliant piece of advice from Dorian yates.
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Yea grip was pretty weak at that point, but I used straps because of crappy knurling on the bar plus I get really sweaty hands.
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Don't pull higher unless you are trying to isolate the middle back more, I use bent over rows as a lat blaster, pulling up your thighs to your waist as you are doing isolates them the best.

Focus on the elbow drive at the top and the squeeze,

A very wise man once said "If you can't hold the weight at peak contraction for a pause on your back exercises its too heavy, your not using muscular strength but momentum to move it there"

I paraphrased it but thats a brilliant piece of advice from Dorian yates.
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I paraphrased it but thats a brilliant piece of advice from Dorian yates.
To an extent, I agree with this but he never practiced what he preached. Also, when you start rowing 300lbs+ I'd like to see anyone hold that weight at the contraction. It's not completely necessary IMO but for new trainees I would recommend it because it helps build the mind muscle connection.
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Old 04-06-2009, 06:11 PM   #9
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Too much weight and not bent enough imo.

Lower the weight and bend slightly more. This is a horizontal exercise.
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You need to try and bend parallel if you plan on working your middle back. Bent at the angle in your video - it's hitting your lats. Think about a seated row, exactly 90 degrees.
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form looks fine...as someone said, add seated rows for middle back...i usually do bent over, seated, deads, shrugs...dead
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Is there any exercise I can do with free weights to swap for seated rows(to hit mid back)
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Is there any exercise I can do with free weights to swap for seated rows(to hit mid back)
BB rows are supposed to hit mid back you are supposed to bend at the waist, back parallel to the floor - the rows you are doing are called Yates Rows. They work lats. Actual BB rows are supposed to hit lats, traps, rhomboids... anything mid back.
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BB rows are supposed to hit mid back you are supposed to bend at the waist, back parallel to the floor - the rows you are doing are called Yates Rows. They work lats. Actual BB rows are supposed to hit lats, traps, rhomboids... anything mid back.
Well while doing the exercise I was trying to work lats and traps, so at least im doin the right exercise for it. I'll try a more bent over approach next time for the mid back. Reps on recharge
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If you want to work the mid-back more with free weights, try using dumbbells on an incline bench. I do this exercise when my lower back starts to act up, and it's a great one for packing on size, plus your back is supported, so there's little risk of injury.
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when I do pendlay rows I go over as close to horizontal as I can and touch the bar to my shirt at the bottom of my pecs. But then those are pendlay rows (not sure if these are supposed to be the same thing with a different name) and I'm smaller than you. lol
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Too much weight and not bent enough imo.

Lower the weight and bend slightly more. This is a horizontal exercise.
This would be my advice as well. Your torso should be near parallel to the ground if not parallel.
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Those are not Bent-Over Rows. These are Bent-Over Rows:

Yes, those are traditional bent over rows. The OP was doing more of a Yates Row, which he coined by doing it at a higher angle. Personally I prefer the Yates style higher angle rows to the traditional rows due to the amount of stress they put on the lower back for stabilization. But to each their own, both are quite effective at building slabs of muscle on your back.
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:35 AM   #22
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lol at the people who only think theres 1 style of bb rows. Yates rows FTW!

also another thing he cant really bring it back any farther. stop the video when he brings it up his elbows are behind him he's getting a full contraction.

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lol at the people who only think theres 1 style of bb rows. Yates rows FTW!

also another thing he cant really bring it back any farther. stop the video when he brings it up his elbows are behind him he's getting a full contraction.
it says bent over row in the title, not yates, not pendlay etc
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Watch Dorian doing them here. Im not a great fan of resting the bar on the legs and dragging it up the thighs. I think a 60 degree angle is best, let the bar go straight down to arms reach and pull back up to the waist with the lats.
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I couldn't see your knees to good but it looks like they might be bent just a bit to much
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If you were using a heavier weight for yourself that knee bend is fine. The heavier your sets, the more flex in your knees/legs you can have to make sure you back is nice and low. I'd say get a better ROM and that's about it, other than that good form.
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