Restoring HPTA and Recomping with Bio Forge

[dmangiarelli]

Final blood work results.


LH:7.6 miU/mL males ref range 1.5-9.3

Estradiol:25.1- Ref Range-Males:11.6-41.2 pg/ml

Free Test:24.4- Ref Range8.7-25.1

Total Test: 775-Ref Range:250-870

As you can see a pretty nice increase in both free test and total test.I will scan the lab work in or take a picture and post it up as soon as I get back home Friday.I'm pretty damn excited about this BioForge run.My ending weight is 210.So I've leaned out pretty nice.I have another 10lbs to go and then I will be done.

What were the numbers after the cycle was done?

[THEHUGE]

Final blood work results.


LH:7.6 miU/mL males ref range 1.5-9.3

Estradiol:25.1- Ref Range-Males:11.6-41.2 pg/ml

Free Test:24.4- Ref Range8.7-25.1

Total Test: 775-Ref Range:250-870

As you can see a pretty nice increase in both free test and total test.I will scan the lab work in or take a picture and post it up as soon as I get back home Friday.I'm pretty damn excited about this BioForge run.My ending weight is 210.So I've leaned out pretty nice.I have another 10lbs to go and then I will be done.

Incredible.

[FadeIntoBig]

Before:

Bun: Result 20mg/dl-Ref Rang 6-20

Creatinine:1.05mg/dl-Ref Range 0.60-1.20

TSH:0.99 MiU/ml-Ref Range 0.35-4.50

LH:3.2 miU/mL males ref range 1.5-9.3

Estradiol:48- Ref Range-Males:11.6-41.2 pg/ml

Free Test12.0 Ref Range8.7-25.1

Total Test: 495-Ref Range:250-870

After:

Final blood work results.


LH:7.6 miU/mL males ref range 1.5-9.3

Estradiol:25.1- Ref Range-Males:11.6-41.2 pg/ml

Free Test:24.4- Ref Range8.7-25.1

Total Test: 775-Ref Range:250-870

As you can see a pretty nice increase in both free test and total test.I will scan the lab work in or take a picture and post it up as soon as I get back home Friday.I'm pretty damn excited about this BioForge run.My ending weight is 210.So I've leaned out pretty nice.I have another 10lbs to go and then I will be done.

Thanks for posting these!

Free Test: 103% increase
Total Test: 57% increase
E2: 47% decrease
LH: 138% increase

Excellent results.

[Adjusting]

Incredible.

Most incredible.

[MarineDoc]

Nice results, I'm glad I ordered mine when I did. This will surely cause Bio Forge to go on back order again very soon.

[THEHUGE]

Most incredible.

I have to admit those numbers are absolutely sick. He hasn't just recovered,his hpta is in OVERDRIVE...

Nice results, I'm glad I ordered mine when I did. This will surely cause Bio Forge to go on back order again very soon.

...and for a good reason

[Tarfu77]

What were the numbers after the cycle was done?

I want have any bloodwork done after the cycle.It's really hard to get my doctor to do any bloodwork like it is.Pisses me off.

[MarineDoc]

How long did you run the Bio Forge? 1 month or 2?

[Tarfu77]

How long did you run the Bio Forge? 1 month or 2?

6 weeks.

[MarineDoc]

6 weeks.

Nice

[MarineDoc]

Congrats to THEHUGE and all the Bio Forge freaks. Bodybuilding can't keep this stuff on the shelf, it's backordered again.

[THEHUGE]

Nice

Even if I wasn't a company rep I wouldn't just say "nice"

[chargerfn909]

Nice results, I'm glad I ordered mine when I did. This will surely cause Bio Forge to go on back order again very soon.

x2! Ordered mine last night with a bottle of SX to run with PCT! I was going crazy bouncing between Bio/AX, but THIS thread/log stole my heart! lmao..I am logging current havoc cycle and will be continuing on through PCT when I get to run the bio..So I will def. be giving my first hand feedback as well!

[MarineDoc]

Even if I wasn't a company rep I wouldn't just say "nice"

I'll upgrade my "nice" to "amazing" or "outstanding" after I use it.

[Adjusting]

I have to admit those numbers are absolutely sick. He hasn't just recovered,his hpta is in OVERDRIVE...

I would consider this statistically significant. lol

[Tarfu77]

x2! Ordered mine last night with a bottle of SX to run with PCT! I was going crazy bouncing between Bio/AX, but THIS thread/log stole my heart! lmao..I am logging current havoc cycle and will be continuing on through PCT when I get to run the bio..So I will def. be giving my first hand feedback as well!

You won't be disapointed.This was my second run with Bio Forge and I had great gains both times.

[cal62887]

Just for clarification.

The before blood work was done before the Tren cycle or right after the Tren cycle before you started PCT?

Just trying to figure those numbers out.

[THEHUGE]

x2! Ordered mine last night with a bottle of SX to run with PCT! I was going crazy bouncing between Bio/AX, but THIS thread/log stole my heart! lmao..I am logging current havoc cycle and will be continuing on through PCT when I get to run the bio..So I will def. be giving my first hand feedback as well!

I'll be following for sure! Are you going to get bloods too?

I'll upgrade my "nice" to "amazing" or "outstanding" after I use it.

Haha fair enough

I would consider this statistically significant. lol

LMFAO you bad,bad boy...

Just for clarification.

The before blood work was done before the Tren cycle or right after the Tren cycle before you started PCT?

Just trying to figure those numbers out.

Before the Tren cycle.

[chargerfn909]

I'll be following for sure! Are you going to get bloods too?




Haha fair enough



LMFAO you bad,bad boy...



Before the Tren cycle.

Yeah,the pump is always very pronunced on Bio Forge,even on rest days!!!

LOOVE good pumps! haha who doesn't ? Anyway I don't think I will be running blood's, primarily because I am already cycling Havoc and going RIGHT into the BioForge, so they wouldn't be accurate!

[Imeniaan]

Is it ok to combine Bio Forge with Formex? Or will the estrogen will lower too much?

[THEHUGE]

Is it ok to combine Bio Forge with Formex? Or will the estrogen will lower too much?

It would be ok if you slowly taper up the formestane .

[MarineDoc]

Before the Tren cycle.

Your test was at a certain level before the Tren, during the Tren cycle those levels should have dropped. After the Tren you took the Bio Forge and now your test levels are higher then they ever were to begin with? So your test levels were probably significantly lower then your begining blood work says and Bio Forge boosted your test much more then what the numbers are saying. I was under the impression that those begining numbers were after your cycle, not before. That's good ****.

Sorry if my english is jacked up, I just woke up.

[THEHUGE]

Your test was at a certain level before the Tren, during the Tren cycle those levels should have dropped. After the Tren you took the Bio Forge and now your test levels are higher then they ever were to begin with? So your test levels were probably significantly lower then your begining blood work says and Bio Forge boosted your test much more then what the numbers are saying. I was under the impression that those begining numbers were after your cycle, not before. That's good ****.

Sorry if my english is jacked up, I just woke up.

You're correct, being a Free Test 103% increase, Total Test: 57% increase, E2: 47% decrease, LH: 138% increase(after PCT) those results mean much more than what the numbers say.

[FadeIntoBig]

You're correct, being a Free Test 103% increase, Total Test: 57% increase, E2: 47% decrease, LH: 138% increase(after PCT) those results mean much more than what the numbers say.

What's also impressive to me is that the LH jumped so much, indicating that the HPTA is actually being stimulated to produce more test. That's the 3rd or 4th set of independent blood work that I've seen showing LH and/or FSH increasing right along with the TT / FT numbers.

I gather one of the problems with the 6-oxo and ATD studies that show a boost in test is that they didn't show a significant change in LH, so that might be evidence of a cross-reaction where the supplement itself alters the blood work values instead of actually boosting test as much as claimed. So I think the LH results are almost as important as the rest.. Nice...

[Tarfu77]

What's also impressive to me is that the LH jumped so much, indicating that the HPTA is actually being stimulated to produce more test. That's the 3rd or 4th set of independent blood work that I've seen showing LH and/or FSH increasing right along with the TT / FT numbers.

I gather one of the problems with the 6-oxo and ATD studies that show a boost in test is that they didn't show a significant change in LH, so that might be evidence of a cross-reaction where the supplement itself alters the blood work values instead of actually boosting test as much as claimed. So I think the LH results are almost as important as the rest.. Nice...

Yes indeed.Bio Forge will be a staple of mine from now on.

[THEHUGE]

What's also impressive to me is that the LH jumped so much, indicating that the HPTA is actually being stimulated to produce more test. That's the 3rd or 4th set of independent blood work that I've seen showing LH and/or FSH increasing right along with the TT / FT numbers.

I gather one of the problems with the 6-oxo and ATD studies that show a boost in test is that they didn't show a significant change in LH, so that might be evidence of a cross-reaction where the supplement itself alters the blood work values instead of actually boosting test as much as claimed. So I think the LH results are almost as important as the rest.. Nice...

What I'm reading here looks familiar...

[oufinny]

Huge - This is some impressive stuff for sure. I am thinking of running this in the future either alone or with Prime from USP; thinking that would be a nasty stack ran at 3 caps per day of Bio Forge. Any thoughts on running it with a product like Prime? I am cutting right now and have enough in my stack or I would run it (the wallet is saying no sadly,especially now that it is on such a great sale!). Great product and it is nice to see a quality natty test booster that works and there is real world data to support it!

[FadeIntoBig]

What I'm reading here looks familiar...

Heheheh - I wasn't replying so much to you as the thread in general.. Heck, I probably picked up that tidbit from something you wrote

But I remember being confused by the 6-oxo and ATD studies where the claim was that it worked by suppressing feedback from estrogen, but the LH and FSH levels were never higher in the studies.

[THEHUGE]

Huge - This is some impressive stuff for sure. I am thinking of running this in the future either alone or with Prime from USP; thinking that would be a nasty stack ran at 3 caps per day of Bio Forge. Any thoughts on running it with a product like Prime? I am cutting right now and have enough in my stack or I would run it (the wallet is saying no sadly,especially now that it is on such a great sale!). Great product and it is nice to see a quality natty test booster that works and there is real world data to support it!

If I had to stack it with something else I'd go with a divanil or fadogia product,or low dose 6-bromo

Heheheh - I wasn't replying so much to you as the thread in general.. Heck, I probably picked up that tidbit from something you wrote

But I remember being confused by the 6-oxo and ATD studies where the claim was that it worked by suppressing feedback from estrogen, but the LH and FSH levels were never higher in the studies.

Haha, no "escape phenomenon", uh ?

[FadeIntoBig]

Haha, no "escape phenomenon", uh ?

LOL, that tweaked the memory.. I had to go and re-read that thread. Nope, no "escape phenomenon" with Bio Forge