Jason's Spring Bulk/Cut Cycle: P-Plex, Tren, H-Drol

[jasonkkk]

3/30/09

Greetings, Ladies and Gents.
I am new to this forum, but from time-to-time I read here and there, and have finally decided to register for myself.

I've just recovered from a recent back injury, and I've decided it's time to kick off again. I have planned this cycle for ages. My diet will stay fairly clean, my training will be very strict, and my sleep will be profuse. I've done a few PH/DS cycles, but the cycle listed below will be the longest. I have familiarity with Tren and HDrol, but this will be my first time playing with P-Plex. In this log, I will list my workouts, strength gains, reviews, sleep and overall sense of well-being. With the above stated, I hope to gain the most optimal results.

Stats:
(All measurements have been taken cold/unflexed and weight is dry)

BF - Approx. 11-12%
Height - 5'9.5"
Weight - 181lbs
Chest/Back - 42.5"
Waist - 35"
Legs - 25.5"
Calves - 16"
Arms - 13.75" (15.25" 'flexed bicep')
Forearms - 12"

Max Lifts:
(Guesstimated but Approx.)

Squat - 405 X 5
Bench - 295 x 1
Deadlift - 405 X 3

Goals:

1) Pack On More Weight (LBM)
2) Under 10% BF (smaller waist, build lower abs/obliques)
3) Bigger Arms (mainly biceps & forearms)
4) Wider Back
5) More Strength and Size

Training:
(5-day split, 45mins-1hr workout, 10-15mins of HI on Treadmill)

Monday - Arms, Forearms, Abs, Cardio
Tuesday - Delts, Traps, Upper Back, Abs, Cardio
Wednesday - Hams, Forearms, Abs, Calves
Thursday - OFF
Friday - Chest, Back, Abs, Cardio
Saturday - Quads
Sunday - OFF

Diet: Mainly Oats, Rice, Pasta, Chicken, Steak, Fish, and Shakes. 4-5meals/day and 1 Cytogainer Shake/day.

Supplements:

Mass-Xtreme by American Cellular Labs (P-Plex clone)
Tren-Xtreme by American Cellular Labs
Halocore by Rockhard Formulations (H50).

Supporting Supps:

RYR, Milk Thistle, Saw Palmetto, Fish Oils, B6, Hawthorne Berries, Glucosamine Chondroitin, and a few other goodies here and there. *I have preloaded prior to cycle, will take on cycle, and during pct*

Cycle:

(BULK)
First 3 days -> 20mg pplex, 30mg tren
Days 4 to 7 -> 30mg pplex, 60mg tren
Week 2 -> 30mg pplex, 60mg tren
Week 3 -> 30mg pplex, 60mg tren
Week 4 -> 40mg pplex, 60mg tren
(CUT)
Week 5 -> 50mg Hdrol, 60mg tren
Week 6 -> 50mg Hdrol, 60mg tren
Week 7 -> 75mg Hdrol, 90mg tren
Week 8 -> 75mg Hdrol, 90mg tren
Week 9 -> 75mg Hdrol, 90mg tren
Week 10 -> 75mg Hdrol, 90mg tren
(BRIDGE)
Week 11 -> 6Caps of 11-OXO By Ergopharm
Week 12 -> 6Caps of 11-OXO By Ergopharm
Week 13 -> 6Caps of 11-OXO By Ergopharm
(POST CYCLE THERAPY)
Weeks 14-18


Thank you for reading.
This will be a very long ride, so buckle in, and enjoy - Jason.

[raab833]

wow. thats one hell of a cycle. Good luck man il be following.

[jasonkkk]

Thanks. I'll be posting my first workout log in a few hours.

[jasonkkk]

DAY 1 MONDAY 3/30/2009

BICEPS/TRICEPS/FOREARMS
A1. Close Grip Bench Press - 12, 9, 6 - 135lbs, 165lbs, 205lbs
A2. 2-Handed Cable Curls - 12, 9, 6 - 30lbs, 50lbs, 70lbs

B1. BB Curls - 12, 9, 6 - 65lbs, 85lbs, 105lbs
B2. Overhead Rope Extensions - 12, 9, 6 - 100lbs, 130lbs, 150lbs

C1. Seated DB Curls - 12, 9, 6 - 25lbs, 35lbs, 45lbs
C2. Wide Grip Pulldowns - 12, 9, 6 - 100lbs, 130lbs, 150lbs

D1. Standing Inside Hammer Curls - 12, 9, 6 - 25lbs, 35lbs, 45lbs
D2. DB Kickbacks - 12, 9, 6 - 25lbs, 35lbs, 45lbs

E1. Reverse Seated Machine Preacher Curls - 12, 12, 12 - 30lbs
E2. Behind-the-Back Standing Wrist Curls - 12, 12, 12 - 95lbs

ABS
A1. 3/20 Hanging Leg Raises
A2. 3/20 Ball Crunches

CARDIO
20mins Med. Intensity on the Treadmill




I had a wonderful sleep today, and I feel great. My strength is still good (since I have been out for awhile). Good pumps and vascularity. No strain on my back, as I lifted light today in a few exercises. I will follow the 12, 9, 6 rep scheme for this cycle to put on both strength and size.

[DeadSonRising]

ahahah
this cycle is epic, i'm definitely keeping up on it, i thought my cycle was a little harsh
1-8 bold 1g/day
1-8 tren 90mg/day
4,5 m1t 10mg/d
6,7 m1t 20mg/d
8 m1t 10mg/day



however you're running both
10 weeks of a methyl and 10 weeks of tren
i hope you have caber and letro on hand sir, as i already got prolactin gyno from the tren, and caber isnt really working, so i might just run adex or tamoxifen ALONG with caber for rest of my cycle.


MORAL OF MY POST
with a cycle that unnecessarily long and toxic and potent, make sure you have preventitive/curing drugs on hand to battle any sides!



edit*

i'd ramp up the h-drol a little more tbh, do like 2x 50, 2x 75, 1x 100, 1x 125
hdrol is very weak imo, and i finished up my cut cycle at like 60mg epi, 150 hdrol, 120mg tren lol. (no sides)

[jasonkkk]

Thank you for the heads up. I've got many combating/supporting items on hand, letro, being one. I know this is a lengthy cycle, but I have spent much time planning it out. I will closely monitor everything and keep an eye out on my BP. I nearly swapped the PPlex for Bold200, but I opted for the PPlex instead, since I've not used it. I may shorten the cycle, but I'll just wait and see how it runs first. I know that HDrol is somewhat weak. I could see myself bumping the 75 to 100, but I don't know about 125. You had no sides at all with your epi, hdrol, tren cycle at those dosages - And did you get blood work done? Exactly how long was the cycle and what were the dosages throughout? IMO, I don't think that 120mg of tren is necessary, I've always gotten good results from 60-90, and anymore than that is just calling out for sides.

[jasonkkk]

DAY 2 TUESDAY 3/30/09

Weight - 179.5lbs

DELTS
DB Shoulder Press - 12, 10, 6, 4 - 45lbs, 60lbs, 70lbs, 80lbs
Smith Shoulder Press - 115lbs, 145lbs, 165lbs
A1. Rear Delt Cable Cross - 12, 9, 6 - 80lbs, 100lbs, 150lbs
A2. Seated Side Lateral DB Raises - 12, 9, 6 - 25lbs, 35lbs, 45lbs
Upright Rows - 12, 9, 6 - 95lbs, 95lbs, 115lbs

TRAPS
A1. DB Shrugs (1sec hold) 12, 12, 12 - 100lbs
A2. Smith Behind-the-Back Shrugs - 12, 12, 12, 295lbs

LATS
A1. Wide Reverse Grip Pulldowns - 12, 9, 6 - 80lbs, 100lbs, 120lbs
A2. Close Grip Pulldowns w. 2 Cables - 12, 9, 6 - 80lbs, 100lbs, 120lbs

ABS
A1. 3/15 Hanging Leg Kicks
A2. 3/15 - 120lbs - Machine Crunches

CARDIO
10mins of HI on the Treadmill



I had lethargy upon awakening. My shoulders felt weak today, I went from repping 95lb DB Shoulder Presses for 4-5 reps to 80lbs for 4. My Smith Presses are down as well. DB Shrugs seemed really heavy, and I could feel strain on my lower back while I was doing them (with belt on). I had really good pumps today though.

[jasonkkk]

DAY 3 WEDNESDAY 4/1/09

Weight - 180lbs

HAMS
A1. Lying Leg Curls - 12, 10, 6, 4 - 50lbs, 70lbs, 90lbs, 110lbs
A2. Seated Leg Curls - 12, 10, 6, 4 - 60lbs, 80lbs, 100lbs, 120lbs
A3. Standing 1-Legged Curls - 12, 10, 6, 4 - 20lbs, 50lbs, 70lbs, 100lbs
Machine Single Leg Press - 12, 10, 6, 4 - 80lbs, 120lbs, 140lbs, 160lbs

CALVES
A1. Seated Raises - 12, 12, 12 - 205lbs
A2. Machine Standing Raises - 12, 12, 12 - 150lbs (rack)



I had a wonderful sleep this morning and woke up with no lethargy. Good leg workout today with great pumps. No cardio and minor strain on lower back while doing 1leg curls.

[jasonkkk]

DAY 4 THURSDAY 4/2/09

OFF DAY

Weight - 180.5lbs

Today, I will be bumping the P-Plex up from 20mg to 30mg, and the Tren from 30mg to 60mg. I will also be kicking in some taurine.

[jasonkkk]

DAY 5 FRIDAY 4/3/09

I took OFF today again and will continue tomorrow and Sunday.

[pierrotsb]

Nice log and your stack is a killer! Enjoy man and good luck!

[brady.huskey]

Strength/size updates? How's the Phera?

[JavierSW]

Great cycle, im in for sure.

Can u tell me what are u gonna use in your PCT ?

[jasonkkk]

DAYS 6 AND 7 4/4/09 - 4/5/09

Unfortunately, I won't be able to finish up my workout this week. I will be very busy, but I'll hit it up hard again starting on monday.

[jasonkkk]

Thank you all. So far my strength is okay, but I have only had the chance to hit the gym 3 times this week. I will try to make it in tomorrow, to the gym, but it does not look very promising. I am sure I will be able to be more descriptive about the Phera this following week to come, as I have bumped the dosages up. I have put on about 4.5 pounds this week and have noticeably bigger size in my upper body. As for PCT, I am still lining that up. I have everything to pick from at hand, but I am not sure what I want to run. Clomid and BioForge will be in my PCT for sure. I will keep you all updated.

[jasonkkk]

DAY 7 SUNDAY 4/5/09

Starting Weight - 179.5lbs
Weight @ end of Week 1 - 184lbs

Again, no workout today, but I'll hit it up hard this week. I will also be following a new workout regime. It consists of a 5-day split, 10-8-6-6 rep-scheme, and 2-3 days of cardio per week. My workout will look something like this:

monday - chest, biceps, forearms and abs
tuesday - quads and calves
wednesday - off
thursday - delts, traps, triceps, and abs
friday - hams and calves
saturday - back, forearms, and abs
sunday - off

REVIEWS FOR WEEK 1:
Unfortunately, I was only able to make it into the gym 3 days this week. I have put on nearly 4.5lbs. Lethargy was evident. My pumps last all day. My arms are 1/4" bigger and my shoulders are noticeably bigger. I ditched chest, mid/lower back, and quads this past week, so I'll be hitting them hard in the weeks to come. I'm also be expecting more size and strength gains for this second week.

[jasonkkk]

DAY 8 MONDAY 4/6/09

Weight PWO - 189.5lbs

30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren

CHEST
Flat Bench Press - 10, 8, 6, 4 - 135lbs, 185lbs, 225lbs, 245lbs
Hammer Strength Incline Press - 10, 8, 6, 6 - 90lbs, 180lbs, 270lbs, 270lbs
DB Pullovers - 10, 8, 6 - 60lbs, 80lbs, 100lbs
A1. Cable Crossovers - 15, 10, 10 - 40lbs, 60lbs, 60lbs
A2. Dips - 15, 12 12 - Body Weight

BICEPS/FOREARMS
A1. BB Curls - 10, 8, 6 - 75lbs, 95lbs, 115lbs
A2. BB Behind-the-Back Wrist Curls - 12, 12, 12 - 115lbs
Standing DB Curls - 10, 8, 6 - 25lbs, 35lbs, 45lbs
Seated Hammer Curls (Outside) - 10, 8, 6 - 25lbs, 35lbs, 45lbs
A1. Cable Curls - 10, 10 - 60lbs, 60lbs
A2. Machine Single-Handed Reverse Curls - 12, 12 - 15lbs, 15lbs

ABS
A1. 3x15 Standing Rope Crunches - 120lbs
A2. 3x15 Hanging Leg Raises - Body Weight




*my strength today felt good overall
*amazing pumps
*little lethargy
*more aggression (made working out easier)
*no cardio today
*abs felt weaker on the hanging leg raises
*good sleep

[jasonkkk]

DAY 9 TUESDAY 4/7/09

Weight PWO - 190.5lbs

QUADS
Front Squats - 10, 8, 6, 4, 10 - 135lbs, 185lbs, 225lbs, 405lbs(reg squats), 225lbs (reg squats)
Leg Press - 10, 8, 6, 6 - 630lbs, 720lbs, 810lbs, 900lbs (complete rack)
Hack Squats - 10, 8, 6, 6, 6 - 90lbs, 180lbs, 270lbs, 360lbs, 450lbs
Leg Extensions - 10, 8, 6, 5 - 100lbs, 160lbs, 220lbs, 290lbs

CALVES
A1. Standing Raises - 12, 12 - 150lbs (rack)
A2. Seated Raises - 12, 12 - 205lbs



My legs felt powerful today, but they are completely ****ed now! I thought they would be a lot weaker since it has been ages that I have last worked them. The only lift I was down on were my regular squats.. 405/4 felt heavier than usual today. I went a bit lighter on Hacks as well, because last time I was having knee problems (that have now gone away), so I will definitely bump up a few hundred pounds next week. I have always had good genetics in my legs, especially in my calves (hence, i only did 4 sets). From this week on, I might work my calves only once per week or not at all.

*very little to no acne
*aggression
*awesome workout today
*great strength
*hellacious pumps
*good sleep but strange dreams (tolerable)
*little to no lethargy
*overall sense of well-being = 10 on a scale of 10
*no back pumps and joints feel just fine

[jasonkkk]

DAY 10 WEDNESDAY 4/8/09

30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren

OFF


Cycle Changes:
Days 1-3 - 20mg P-Plex, 30mg Tren
Days 4-7 - 30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren
Week 2 - 30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren
Week 3 - 30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren
Week 4 - 40mg P-Plex, 90mg Tren
Week 5 - 100mg H-Drol, 90mg Tren
Week 6 - 100mg H-Drol, 90mg Tren
Week 7 - 100mg H-Drol, 90mg Tren
Week 8 - 100mg H-Drol, 90mg Tren
Weeks 9-14 = PCT

I've taken heed, so I've cut my 10-week cycle on methyls to 8 weeks (2 weeks less of H-Drol). I'll also exclude the 11-OXO bridge. Additionally, I've bumped the Tren to 90mg starting week 4, and I'll be running it at 90mg until the end of the cycle. I've only got 112 caps of H-Drol left, so I'd like to get the most out of it this cycle, as I'm only running it for only 4 weeks. I understand that 50mg/day is weak, and anymore than 125mg/day would be too much for me. Any suggestions on the dosing for the last 4 weeks? Thank you in advance.

Jason K.

[jasonkkk]

DAY 11 THURSDAY 4/9/09

Weight 193lbs

30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren

DELTS/TRICEPS/TRAPS
DB Press - 10, 8, 6, 5 - 50lbs, 60lbs, 80lbs, 90lbs
H/S Plate-Loaded Press - 10, 8, 6, 6 - 90lbs, 180lbs, 270lbs, 360lbs
A1. Smith Upright Rows - 10, 8, 6 - 75lbs, 95lbs, 115lbs
A2. EZ Skull Crushers - 10, 8, 6 - 75lbs, 95lbs, 115lbs
B1. Rope Pulldowns - 10, 8, 6 - 100lbs, 130lbs, 150lbs
B2. DB Seated Laterals - 10, 8, 6 - 25lbs, 35lbs, 45lbs
C1. WG Pulldowns - 10, 8, 6 - 100lbs, 130lbs, 150lbs
C2. Machine Dips - 15, 12, 10, 8 - 90lbs, 140lbs, 180lbs, 230lbs (no rest on sets 3&4)
C3. DB Shrugs - 12, 12, 12, 20 - 100lbs, 100lbs, 100lbs, 50lbs (no rest on sets 3&4)

Workout today went swell. My DB Presses were up - I could have gone 90lbsx6, but some dude was mucking around with dumbbells behind me and made me lose focus. Shrugs felt much better today and lighter (very little strain on lower back this week). Side lateral raises seemed heavier than usual, machine dips felt very light, and overall triceps felt fine this week. I may hit some smith behind-the-back shrugs on back day (sat) as I didn't do them today. My triceps were cashed out on each last set except the machine dips (perhaps i'll go much heavier next time), and I may even hit CG Bench Presses on back day as well.

*great pumps
*good sleep, no strange dreams, very little lethargy
*no back pumps
*no joint pain
*little to no acne
*aggression in gym
*quads are still a bit sore

[jasonkkk]

DAY 12 FRIDAY 4/10/09

Weight - 194.5lbs
This is the heaviest I've ever been! I have set a new goal to hit 200lbs by the end of the phera cycle. I will be changing up my diet a bit.

30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren

HAMS/CALVES
A1. 1-Legged Curls - 10, 8, 6 - 50lbs, 90lbs, 140lbs
A2. Seated Raises - 12, 12 - 225lbs
A3. Machine Standing Raises - 15, 15 - 150lbs (rack)
B1. Lying Leg Curls - 10, 8, 4 - 50lbs, 90lbs, 140lbs
B2. Seated Leg Curls - 10, 8, 4 - 50lbs, 90lbs, 140lbs
B3. Machine 1-Legged Press - 10, 8, 6 - 50lbs, 90lbs, 140lbs
DB Lunges - 10, 8, 6 (each leg) - 25lbs, 35lbs, 50lbs

Hams felt exceptionally strong today. I went a little too heavy on the lying and seated curls, and I should have started with them first, so I only repped them for 4 on the last set. I'll save abs for tomorrow on back day.

*little to no acne
*aggression in gym and outside of gym
*no back pumps
*great pumps in legs/calves today
*very lethargic today
*rest was okay (strange dreams again)
*libido is still through the roof
*minor strain in back
*joints feel fine

[bigwhiteguy29]

goodjob man keep slaming weights! goodjob on keeping it to 8 weeks and you wont need 11oxo jsut go to pct and save that.

[jasonkkk]

Thanks!

[BrettSmity]

I'm subbed but man I'm not to sure how this will end.

[BrettSmity]

How exactly are you planning on bulking for the first 4 weeks then going straight to cutting for 4 weeks? I'm a bit confused there.

[jasonkkk]

Perhaps the title of this thread was deceiving. This cycle won't be a full-on bulk, then full-on cut, but merely a partial bulk, followed by a partial cut. Does that make sense? i.e. put on a little size and then dry out a bit.

[BrettSmity]

Perhaps the title of this thread was deceiving. This cycle won't be a full-on bulk, then full-on cut, but merely a partial bulk, followed by a partial cut. Does that make sense? i.e. put on a little size and then dry out a bit.

Gotcha bro. Good luck have fun.

[jasonkkk]

Thanks!

[jasonkkk]

DAY 13 SATURDAY 4/11/09

Weight - 193.5lbs

30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren

BACK/ABS
Reverse WG Lat Pulldowns - 10, 8, 6, 6 - 80lbs, 100lbs, 120lbs, 140lbs
Smith Reverse WG Bent-Over Rows - 10, 8, 6, 6 - 115lbs, 165lbs, 205lbs, 205lbs
DB Rows - 10, 8, 6, 6 - 60lbs, 80lbs, 100lbs, 120lbs
Cable Rows - 10, 8, 6 - 80lbs, 100lbs, 120lbs
Deadlifts - 10, 8, 6 - 135lbs, 225lbs, 315lbs
A1. DB Hammer Curls (Inside) - 10, 8, 6 - 25lbs, 35lbs, 50lbs
A2. Ball Crunches - 25, 25, 25, 25 - Body Weight

I feared going into the gym today, and I've not been looking forward to it. Today was back day, and about one month ago, I injured my back - hence, the above was stated. I pulled my lower back posterior muscle doing bent-over rows (still uncertain as to how). Aside from that, I had a SICK workout today. I had the "Alpha Male, I-own-this-gym" feeling going on, and blasted through each exercise like Ronnie Coleman. My strength felt great today. I went exceptionally lighter on a few lifts: Bent-Over Rows, Cable Rows, and Deadlifts. So that my form would be immaculate, I opted doing the bent-over rows on a smith machine. After doing some db rows, my lower back started to ache and strain. During my deadlift session, the first set felt killer/heavy, the second set felt a bit lighter, and i eased through the third set. I felt as though I could have easily gone a 4th set for 405 and perhaps repped it for 3-4 reps, but I wanted to avoid injuries this week. On my last exercise, I chose to do inside hammer curls to work extensively on my forearm and brachialis. I can't wait until I bump the Tren to 90mg.

*great strength
*super pumps
*back strains and aches
*libido = i could fk like a bunny-rabbit with 2 dks
*bad lethargy
*minor ache in my left forearm (during db rows)
*very little to no acne
*sleep was all right
*much aggression
*overall sense of well-being = euphoric-like

[jasonkkk]

DAY 14 SUNDAY 4/12/09

Starting Weight - 179.5lbs
Current Weight - 193.5-194.5lbs

OFF

30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren

Week 2 Update:
I am up around 14-15 pounds from the beginning of my cycle. Strength has definitely kicked in this week, and I am hoping for more during my third upcoming week. I will keep the same dosages on both the P-Plex and Tren for week 3. I am looking a lot more leaner/vascular than I had expected. This P-Plex is really fun as it is treating me exceptionally well. The sides have been little to none thus far. My joints feel just fine, I have lethargy here and there, no back pumps, and still strange dreams from time to time. Unfortunately, I am combating a little bit of stress. I went out and got completely wasted last night, I broke it off with my fiance, and I got pulled over by the cops. My mind is still in this though (75%), and I will do everything to focus and push through until the end of the cycle for you all. I have high expectations of hitting 200lbs while on the Phera. Enjoy the ride guys, and buckle up tight for week 3.

Note: My actual camera is broken. The cam still charges, but it does not turn on. It is not that I am afraid to post up before/after pictures, but it is just that I am currently having difficulties. My sister does have a cam, and perhaps I can take pictures after the end of the P-Plex/Tren run, then again after the H-Drol/Tren run, and again after PCT. I do have older pictures to give you all an idea, but they are not recent, and won't do justice.

I still need help dosing the H-Drol during the 2nd half of my cycle, and I am open to any suggestions. I will post the information below. Thank you in advance.

My current cycle:
Days 1-3 - 20mg P-Plex, 30mg Tren
Days 4-7 - 30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren
Week 2 - 30mg P-Plex, 60mg Tren
Week 3 - 30mg P-Plex, 60mg, Tren
Week 4 - 40mg P-Plex, 90mg Tren
Week 5 - 100mg H-Drol, 90mg Tren
Week 6 - 100mg H-Drol, 90mg Tren
Week 7 - 100mg H-Drol, 90mg Tren
Week 8 - 100mg H-Drol, 90mg Tren
Weeks 9-14 - PCT

I was originally planning to run this cycle for 10 weeks (2 additional weeks of H-Drol/Tren), but I took heed and cut it down to 8 weeks. I have a total of 112 25mg H-Drol caps left. If I dose the H-Drol like I did above, that will be 112 caps total. I understand that H-Drol does not do much during weeks 1-2, and tends to kick in during weeks 3-4. I also understand that 50mg is low, and 125mg + is too much for me, but I want to get the most out of the H-Drol. Any suggestions?


Jason K.