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    Applied Nutriceuticals RPM log

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    http://www.appliednutriceuticals.com/product-rpm.php

    This is my first log of any supplement, the sample i tried of RPM was amazing so I'm looking forward to seeing how it works over several weeks,
    My sample review of RPM/DRIVE: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=114295961


    I'm not really sure what I should include when reviewing its effects for each workout but it will be something along these lines
    • Pumps
    • Energy
    • Strength
    • Focus
    • Thermogenic effects (will base this on weight loss/ bodyfat %)
    • Aggression
    • Vascularity
    • Tolerance (if the effects get less pronounced or remain the same)
    I will be using 4 caps 45-60 minutes pre workout on an empty stomach, I will have a pre workout shake 30 mins after taking the caps but will experiment with that to see if it has any effect.

    About me:

    Starting stats
    Height: 5'11
    Weight: 185
    Bodyfat %: 15 ish measured with calipers

    Currently cutting
    Been lifting for 8 months with only about 5 months "good" training with enough equipment and weights (home gym) and of those 5 months I've been cutting for 3 which if I post my lifts explains my weakness *sigh*

    Have used or tried samples of a lot of the main N.O supps all with no effect or a negative effect, the only one left I would want to try is white flood tablets (hate powders lol)
    Some of the ones I've tried:
    Plasmajet
    White blood
    Superpump 250
    N.O explode
    Juggernaught
    Nano vapour

    My current supplement list which has stayed the same for a while is:

    ON 100% whey choc mint
    Controlled labs Orange triad
    Millennium sport Tec ZMK
    ON fish oil

    My training is a combo of high and lower volume doing the standard free-weight lifts, M-W-F split doing
    Monday- chest/tri
    Wednesday-back/bi
    Friday- legs/shoulders
    Abs, calves and forearms usually on Wed and Fri. Cardio is 45 minutes on a bike 2-3 days a week.
    High volume lasts up to two hours which should be good in testing the lasting power of RPM
    Lower volume takes 30-60 mins

    My diet is this or close to it depending on if i have a protein shake in the morning
    Non workout days

    protein carbohydrates fat calories
    228.96....117.62....75.26...2033.10

    Workout days
    protein carbohydrates fat calories
    287.16....138.62.....83.36..2420.10

    water consumption is around 4-6 litres a day

    Goals while using RPM

    Increase strength even by just by a few kg on lifts and more reps on bodyweight exercises like dips.
    decrease bodyfat, hoping for 6-8 pound loss in four weeks.


    Variables on this log
    For the first week I'm keeping high volume before going lower volume, everything else like other supps and training will be the same so RPM is the only change making it easier to judge its effects. I was going to use it along with NeoVar but decided not to so i could more accurately judge this.

    I think I've covered everything so I'll update after today's workout and I'll try and keep it short, to the point and non-dull for anyone that reads this. I will post a final review after I finish the bottle.
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    Originally Posted by jmil View Post
    Looking forward to this
    Same time post....scary
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    May want to start at 3 and work up, i am 268 and 3 still works for me, some days i bump it to 4. Good luck
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    Red face

    Yep i should have lol
    i was going to start at two to asses my tolerance as i have no caffein in my diet except for a few samples here and there, for some reason i thought i would just go for 4 straight away and while it was good during the workout i'm feeling the downside now

    will post how the first workout went properly when i get on my pc
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    Originally Posted by stevenXD View Post
    Yep i should have lol
    i was going to start at two to asses my tolerance as i have no caffein in my diet except for a few samples here and there, for some reason i thought i would just go for 4 straight away and while it was good during the workout i'm feeling the downside now

    will post how the first workout went properly when i get on my pc
    One way i liked doseing as well is 2 an hour before, then 1 or 2, 30 min later.
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    Originally Posted by kincaid82 View Post
    One way i liked doseing as well is 2 an hour before, then 1 or 2, 30 min later.
    sounds like an intresting way of doing it, although for me it would interfere with the pre/w shake

    i may try that towards the end of the log

    how long before your workout did you find was best for optimal results, i was thinking of just varying between 30-90 minutes pre/w
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    First workout with RPM (4 caps 65 minutes pre workout)

    Chest and triceps
    Today's workout was good, I'm pleased with it although the 4 caps was too much for an initial dose and caused an upset stomach and shakiness after finishing.
    Duration of workout 80 minutes which is about 20 faster than normal (you'll see why later on lol)
    • Pumps
      Was notably improved particularly in the beginning after bench press, I got a slight pump in my chest which I never get while my triceps stayed moderately pumped, nothing "insane" but it was still good.
    • Energy
      10/10, my energy levels shot up 20 minutes after taking RPM then during the workout I just didn't get tired, considering I only had 5 hours sleep last night because of coursework. I was very impressed by this, I'm still feeling a little energetic now.
    • Strength
      As I was hoping this shot up, 2.5kg for BP and 5kg db pullovers
      All my sets that I didn't increase weight on felt easier, I was going over 8 reps on some lifts because it felt so easy. My dips increased by 75% (from 3 to 4 rofl)
      These may not sound like huge increases but I've been cutting since December 1st so any increase is good for me.
    • Focus
      I was really excited to start the workout, probably more because I was trying a new supp but still good. I was more concentrated on my sets but I'm a daydreamer so I still get side-tracked for a couple minutes occasionally.
    • Thermogenic effects
      Can't really give an opinion on this yet, will probably only get an idea from weight loss/ BF change.
    • Aggression
      Not so much aggression but more enthusiastic than normal, working out at home can get dull at times, especially in a cramped room.
    • Vascularity
      No change but then nothing has worked for that, except lower BF and heat.
    • Tolerance
      I took too many for my first use, I'm not sure what caused it but i felt kind of sick and had to rush the workout then sprint to the toilet to ermm... dump a large cargo load if you know what I mean.
      I was fine with 4 caps with the sample but i should have built up gradually, 2 caps then 3 etc.

    Todays workout

    Bench press 3 x 8 (+2.5kg for reps, tried adding 5kg but failed, will post pics of lucky escape lol)
    Incline Fly 3 x 8
    Incline DB Press 3 x 8 (same weight as normal but the first two sets felt really easy)
    Bent Arm Pullover 3 x 12 (added 2.5kg, then 5kg and managed it, killed my tris though)
    Dips 3 x failure (got an extra rep, going slow with full ROM)
    Tricep pushdown 3 x 8 (no change in strength but my energy was still way up)
    Lying one arm tricep extension 3 x 8 , 1 x 16 (didn't tire out as quickly)
    Hand grippers 3 x 15-20
    sit ups 2 x 20


    If there is anything else i can comment on let me know.
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    Originally Posted by stevenXD View Post
    sounds like an intresting way of doing it, although for me it would interfere with the pre/w shake

    i may try that towards the end of the log

    how long before your workout did you find was best for optimal results, i was thinking of just varying between 30-90 minutes pre/w

    for me right at a hour was great, and like you have seent he energy and focus last the whole work out.

    looks like a solid work out and good luck, i will be keeping a eye on this.
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    Oh wow... 4 is a ton. I am a heavy coffee drinker as of lately and 3 caps is enough to get me going hard
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    Oh wow... 4 is a ton. I am a heavy coffee drinker as of lately and 3 caps is enough to get me going hard
    My workout finished at 5:30pm and I was still feeling its effects at midnight while trying to sleep
    I can't imagine what it would be like if i took 3 caps at 9pm before cardio lol

    how long does each bottle last normally, if i worked it out right the 110 bottle would last 9 weeks if i used 4 pre/w for 3 days a week and 12 weeks with 3 caps. That seems pretty cheap compared to others
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    Back to mondays workout, i got a little to overhyped and after succesfully adding 2.5kg for reps on BP i tried adding 5kg, i only managed to get 6 of the 8 reps and failed on the 7th.
    I workout at home without a spotter so i had to tip the bar and dump the weights (only the second time i've had to do that), because my rooms so small a 20kg and 10kg plate slammed into the wall almost destroying a plug socket and a bunch of chargers right before the bar flipped over the other way almost hitting a mirror. I got pretty lucky with that considering it was switched on.

    pic kind of shows how close it was, the black marks are where the weights hit the wall


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    Originally Posted by stevenXD View Post
    Back to mondays workout, i got a little to overhyped and after succesfully adding 2.5kg for reps on BP i tried adding 5kg, i only managed to get 6 of the 8 reps and failed on the 7th.
    I workout at home without a spotter so i had to tip the bar and dump the weights (only the second time i've had to do that), because my rooms so small a 20kg and 10kg plate slammed into the wall almost destroying a plug socket and a bunch of chargers right before the bar flipped over the other way almost hitting a mirror. I got pretty lucky with that considering it was switched on.

    pic kind of shows how close it was, the black marks are where the weights hit the wall


    Well glad you got out of it, that has happened to every one at least once in their life, no worries. As you noted, at 3 caps or even 4, a 110 count bottle will last you some time. What part of the UK do you live?
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    Originally Posted by kincaid82 View Post
    Well glad you got out of it, that has happened to every one at least once in their life, no worries. As you noted, at 3 caps or even 4, a 110 count bottle will last you some time. What part of the UK do you live?
    I'm in london. College seemed empty today, i'm sure i will see some people i know on the news later lol

    Anyways update on my supplement list is i'm now using just RPM and ON WHEY, ran out of OT and fish oil yesterday and zmk is still out of stock. Can't order OT until the new formula is available so this will be my "stack" for a while. It won't make any significant difference except maybe sleep.

    Back/bi soon, this should give a real feel of RPM's effects, if i add 2.5 kg to deadlifts then i'll be lifting 89% of my max for 8 reps since i pushed my self recently and am up 7.5kg over the last month.
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    Originally Posted by stevenXD View Post
    I'm in london. College seemed empty today, i'm sure i will see some people i know on the news later lol

    Anyways update on my supplement list is i'm now using just RPM and ON WHEY, ran out of OT and fish oil yesterday and zmk is still out of stock. Can't order OT until the new formula is available so this will be my "stack" for a while. It won't make any significant difference except maybe sleep.

    Back/bi soon, this should give a real feel of RPM's effects, if i add 2.5 kg to deadlifts then i'll be lifting 89% of my max for 8 reps since i pushed my self recently and am up 7.5kg over the last month.

    sounds good, should be a solid work out. I have family in the UK,a nd i am headed over in july for 12 days for a wedding.
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    Originally Posted by stevenXD View Post
    My workout finished at 5:30pm and I was still feeling its effects at midnight while trying to sleep
    I can't imagine what it would be like if i took 3 caps at 9pm before cardio lol

    how long does each bottle last normally, if i worked it out right the 110 bottle would last 9 weeks if i used 4 pre/w for 3 days a week and 12 weeks with 3 caps. That seems pretty cheap compared to others
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    Second workout with RPM (3 caps 60 minutes pre workout)

    Back and biceps
    Today's workout was good and bad, I set a new PR on deadlifts by 4.5kg and I had some great pumps and vascularity however my stomach didn't react too great.
    Duration of workout was 2 hours and 10 minutes, a bit longer than normal due to a 15 min interruption plus an extra set on DL's.
    • Pumps
      Had the biggest pump in my lower back, it was so solid it felt like I had two spines, good pump in my biceps and forearms too.
    • Energy
      Oddly today I didn't feel it kick in; it was more of a gradual mild build up that ran out of poof towards the end of the workout which may be due to giving everything on deads.
    • Strength
      I exceeded my aim for deadlifts by getting and extra 4.5kg from last week even with an extra set. Other than lat pulldowns I didn't notice any other changes in strength.
    • Focus
      Less focused if anything
    • Thermogenic effects
      Can't really give an opinion on this yet, will probably only get an idea from weight loss/ BF change.
    • Aggression
      Hate to go on about deadlifts so much but before I done them I was really psyched up and everything little thing was pissing me off even though I was in a good mood earlier, lost it later on in the workout.
    • Vascularity
      Wow did I get veiny, my forearm veins were popping out and I had one squiggly one come out of nowhere. Weirdest change was a MASSIVE vein in my neck, I took a pic after it went down a little but it freaked me at the time, I had to check my BP lol (was normal range during and after).
    • Tolerance
      was only 3 caps this time but I'm now pretty sure that I've become really sensitive to caffeine since I am getting such strong effects from both ends of the positive/negative scale. I think this will go away soon as it did with the sample, its probably because my diet used to be terrible, I would drink 2 litres of coke a day for years and built up a very high tolerance so much so that 500ml in one go had no effect but last summer I pretty much stopped overnight and have had no caffeine since over than samples.
      Strength increases but I get a stomach ache and sick feeling towards the end of the workout. Also combined with the exertion of deadlifts I went sort of faint/dizzy and had to rest for 15 or so minutes.
      Will try 2 caps on Friday and next week is the start of low volume so I may not experience the drawdown effect at the end of the workout.
      One other thing to note is a lot of burping which I think is linked to rpm lol.

    Workout

    Bent over barbell row 3 x 8 (felt the same but my arms got pumped from it)

    Deadlift 4 x 8 (+2.5kg for the first set then +4.5 for the next three, forth set was to video myself to check form was still good. That puts my 8 reps at 91% of my max, either it's because I've been cutting for a while and it?s a little weird or I might be slow twitch dominant I think. I felt dizzy/lightheaded afterwards but it went away soon enough after resting.)

    Calf raises 3 x 20 (sort of skipped this to rest)
    Shrugs bar/dumbbell 3 x 8, 1 x 15(sort of skipped this to rest)
    Back fly 2 x 15
    One arm kneeling row 3 x 8
    Wide grip lat pulldowns 3 x 8 (+2.5kg)
    Close grip lat pulldowns 3 x 8 (a little easier)
    Sit ups 2 x 20


    DB curl 3 x 8 (great pump)

    Reverse curls 2 x 15
    Reverse wrist curls 3 x 15
    Wrist curls 3 x 15-20 (forearms were too pumped to move my hands afterwards, was a great feeling)

    Overall the good outweighed the bad. I am just trying to be detailed about all the effects.
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    Originally Posted by Black_Label View Post
    Stomach thing is strange, RPM makes me feel great over all. Might be the duration at the gym.
    I had no problems with my stomach today at 3 caps so all looks good regarding that.

    The first half of today got screwed up in terms of missed meals, delayed workout and rpm scheduling that was waaay way out.
    I'll post full details later or tomorrow but it basically went with the first half of the workout being a waste before wrist curls + RPM = win from then on.
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    Third workout with RPM (3 caps 120+ minutes pre workout)

    Legs and shoulders
    Today got screwed up, I woke up really tired and was relying on the energy boost from RPM, unfortunately my whole schedule got messed up and lunch got delayed by two hours. I planned on taking rpm an hour before my workout but that got thrown way off an by the time I had my pre/w shake and started my first set it was about two hours later. First half of the workout I felt sluggish and was going to call it a day half way through because what normally takes 60 minutes was already at 90 minutes, I'm glad I didn't though because after calf raises I had massive pumps and possibly due to rpm a burst of energy so all was not lost.
    Duration of workout was just short of 2 hours which was too long considering I didn't do shoulders.
    • Pumps
      Best so far, seems to increase with each workout.
      Calves got a pump but the most intense pumps were in my abs (weird for me) and my forearms which looked swollen afterwards, I measured and they were 1.5 inches bigger. As I was putting away the 20kg plates I got a slight pump in my lower back which wasn't expected.
    • Energy
      Well the timing was way out so I felt like I crashed, was sluggish for most of the main workout, later on I had a surge of energy but I couldn't tell if it was directly rpm or me getting more energized from the vascularity and pumps.
    • Strength
      Slight improvement in higher rep exercises late in the workout.
    • Focus
      n/a for today.
    • Thermogenic effects
      Can't really give an opinion on this yet, will probably only get an idea from weight loss/ BF change.
    • Aggression
      Started angry anyway lol
    • Vascularity
      Notable improvement
    • Tolerance
      No problems at 3 caps.

    Workout
    Shoulder work taken out due to injury a while ago, I've recovered but I'm saving my shoulders for bench press now. A few other exercises were skipped.

    Standing barbell shoulder press 1 x 10
    Light DB stuff for 5 mins

    Squat 4 x 10 (back still sore from Wednesday so I kept the weight the same)
    calf raises 3 x 20 (good pump and better endurance)
    leg extensions 1 x 15, 3 x 8 (very slightly easier)
    sit ups 2 x 20 (a pump in my abs was interesting)
    leg raises 1 x 20

    reverse wrist curls 3 x 15
    Hand grippers keep closed for as long as possible
    wrist curls 3 x 15-20 (forearms looked swollen afterwards, great feeling)



    Hopefully things will go more smoothly next week.
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    I have had days where rpm seemed like it wasnt kicking in, then in the workout i exploded with energy. Sweating while its like 50 in my weight room
    I've been drinking tooooons of coffee lately, and 3 pills still gets me going great! But I have had those days where it didn't feel like it was kicking in, then BAM!...I just went crazy at the gym. Believe me, it's doin it's job .

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    I have had days where rpm seemed like it wasnt kicking in, then in the workout i exploded with energy. Sweating while its like 50 in my weight room
    I had that today, was boiling even with all the windows open and my back was soaked
    Strange thing is i feel really cool now
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    Fourth workout with RPM (4 caps 60 minutes pre workout)

    Chest and triceps
    Great workout, no major strength increases like last week but I wasn't expecting too much as I'm already pushing myself to my limit. Wasn't feeling too good over the weekend but today rpm gave me a nice boost and its about 4 hours now since I took it but I still feel good which is a nice bonus.
    Just before the workout I felt really hot even though its cold outside and my t-shirt and shorts were drenched by the end of the workout.
    Today is a high carb day compared to normal.

    Today was the start of my lower volume routine so duration of workout was 50 minutes including warm-up and putting away al the stuff.
    • Pumps
      Decent pump in chest, fantastic pump in triceps so much so I had to delay dips waiting for them to go down.
    • Energy
      Well no "kick in" effect but my energy was up a lot during the workout, I felt speedy during the warm-up and instead of sitting resting between sets I was sort of pacing up and down. I would probably say today's energy was the most sustainable; it was a good gradual increase over the 60 minutes and is still with me now.
    • Strength
      I got a new PR on dips but other than that same as last week which is still up from pre RPM.
    • Focus
      Good, I felt "in the workout" like nothing else was happening.
    • Thermogenic effects
      I know it's only been a week but I think its having an effect, weight loss is speeding up.
    • Aggression
      Increased
    • Vascularity
      Very good today, had squiggly veins on my forearm and some pop out ones around my elbow. Others veins showed up more and there where more visible overall.
    • Tolerance
      No problems at 4 caps other than increased gas release, mainly burping

    Workout
    Lower volume not including warm-up with DB?s

    Bench press 3 x 8 (same weight as last week so +2.5kg from pre RPM. Done a fourth set with -5kg but only managed 5 reps so I knew I had exhausted my chest)
    Straight Arm Pullover 3 x 10 (done 12 reps for first and last set)

    Hand grippers as many as possible
    Sit ups 2 x 20

    Dips 3 x failure (done 6 which is +2 from last week, a new PR for me [don't laugh lol])
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    http://www.diablobarbell.com/diabloyear1/ - An article I wrote very recently, chronicling my 1st year in Powerlifting at Diablo Barbell. I tried to gear it towards those who are new to PL.

    Soon to be "Precision Nutrition" Certified!
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