Finally! a thread about delts

[Weightaholic]

Vid?... oh wait nevermind

LOL.

[besel]

that was all pretty helpful, thx

[Valenzuelatech]

lets hear some good delt training techniques

cmon misc

[Hugh Jazz]

lets hear some good delt training techniques

cmon misc

Doing GVT with OH presses is pretty sweet **** man,.

[265HP]

I can do alot in the shoulder press, 80 lbs dumbbells like yourself

non to mention in the laterals, it is weak

hack I could not even do it do it today to the feeling that my rotator cuff will break,weird pain every time I do it

less pain in the same spot on the right shoulder when pressing or benching

ANY ADVICE ?

[Valenzuelatech]

Doing GVT with OH presses is pretty sweet **** man,.

elaborate, you must

[Hugh Jazz]

elaborate, you must

Take your 20 rep max and do 10 sets of 10 with 1 min rests.

[Valenzuelatech]

I can do alot in the shoulder press, 80 lbs dumbbells like yourself

non to mention in the laterals, it is week

hack I could not even do it do it today to the feeling that my rotator cuff will break,weird pain every time I do it

less pain in the same spot on the right shoulder when pressing or benching

ANY ADVICE ?

you need to train the rotator cuffs man, look up exercises for it (its quite hard to describe) do 1 r/c exercise 1-2 times a month at the end of your workout with lightweight for 3x 15 reps

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[Valenzuelatech]

Take your 20 rep max and do 10 sets of 10 with 1 min rests.

thanks, ill try that next week, ill do it at the end of the workout, so I wont be to fatigued for the other lifts

[Haterade~]

damn brah u pretty jacked (no homo)

[SmashItUp]

In before delts

[iliketodoit]

i do 65x10 db press but don't think i could even swing the 45s the way OP did in the vid

[Valenzuelatech]

i do 65x10 db press but don't think i could even swing the 45s the way OP did in the vid

its a 70lb DB

power laterals - bob chic teaches them

[Vaporize]

Not digging your style of lateral raises, but do whatever is getting you results.
I haven't trained my delts in over 2 months, fukers grow too fast.

[Valenzuelatech]

Not digging your style of lateral raises, but do whatever is getting you results.
I haven't trained my delts in over 2 months, fukers grow too fast.

im stunned!

no atrophy? I shrink if i even take a week off!

[Vaporize]

im stunned!

no atrophy? I shrink if i even take a week off!

I'm hoping they atrophy a little bit, need my chest to catch up before I step on stage again. I might throw some delt training in every other week now as I think they aren't too much out of proportion now.

[Handsome Maxout]

For shoulders, especially presses, I think most people have the wrong idea. It's not a push like a jerk, it's pulling your arms in towards your head. Squeezing the delts on presses works a lot better than just putting up dead weight and not hitting the intended muscle groups.

Today's Upper Body Workout

Bench Press 10 x 10

supersetted with Standing DB Presses 10 x 10

supersetted with bent over rows 10 x 10

1 minute rest in between circuits, followed by dips, pullups, pushups and crunches

YEAAAHHH BUDDAAAYYY

[5x10]

i like side lateral drop sets with a hold(do both sides at the same time)
40s for 10
30s for 20
20s for 10
10s for 10
drop weight, hold arms out(palms down) for 1 minute

repeat for 2nd set, but only a 30 sec hold out

[Clean]

I alternate between dumbbell lateral raises and bar lateral raises usually.

I think the real mass builder though is Barbell Shoulder Presses and Behind the Neck Presses. They build the thickness that the lateral raises don't.

[eLjay28]

Not digging your style of lateral raises, but do whatever is getting you results.
I haven't trained my delts in over 2 months, fukers grow too fast.

Wish my delts would fukn grow. I think thats my weakest point so far.

[BrettT07]

this is true but sometimes its good to cheat a little (AS LONG AS THE MOVEMENT IS STILL CONTROLLED.) to overload the muscle.

dont trap yourself into non-growth by doing super strict reps with very light weight.

as you can see in the video im getting a bit of a push from my lower body but thats just to get the weight past sticking point.

Exactly this. I posted a video of me doing side lateral raises in the exercise section.. oh lawd. It enraged people to the point they couldn't even focus on the argument and began criticizing my chest and ****

But here's a couple videos of me doing shoulder training from my last routine:




and the results:



Although the past couple weeks I have adopted a high volume/ low rest/ good form routine.

[Valenzuelatech]

I'm hoping they atrophy a little bit, need my chest to catch up before I step on stage again. I might throw some delt training in every other week now as I think they aren't too much out of proportion now.

rare to hear someone say that man! personally i think you can never have to big side delts. it adds nicely to the v-taper and gives a great look of power.

rear delts: maybe. I cut back on rear delts a couple years ago to let my triceps catch up. as having too big rear delts can really make your arm look funny in a side chest shot if your triceps are lagging.

IMO the front delts actually bring out the chest more as it creates that nice line that separates the chest from the sholder

nyways, good luck in your comp man!

For shoulders, especially presses, I think most people have the wrong idea. It's not a push like a jerk, it's pulling your arms in towards your head. Squeezing the delts on presses works a lot better than just putting up dead weight and not hitting the intended muscle groups.

good point.

i have a question for everyone:
when doing seated DB presses, do you let the DB's come together at the top or come up wide as if holding a barbell; I do the latter.

I alternate between dumbbell lateral raises and bar lateral raises usually.

I think the real mass builder though is Barbell Shoulder Presses and Behind the Neck Presses. They build the thickness that the lateral raises don't.

bar lateral raises? for the side delts, how?

Wish my delts would fukn grow. I think thats my weakest point so far.

through trial and error, i've found that in order to really overload the shoulders and make them grow, you gotta train the **** outta them. its not like biceps or chest where you can get away with 2-3 exercises. the shoulders hold you're arms up all day so they have tremendous endurance. 2-3 exercises will just tickle them

I always do (in this order):
2 pressing movements
-3 sets seated DB presses, 3 sets standing behind the neck barbell presses

1 isolation for the side delts:
-4 sets standing side laterals

1 compound movement for the delts and traps
-3 sets upright rows
(close grip for the side delts and traps)
(wide grip for the front delt/chest tie-in and traps)

1 exercise for rear delts
- 3 sets seated or standing bent over DB laterals

OPTIONAL
- 3 sets old school lying down side raises on bench (side and rear delts)
or
- 3 sets front DB or cable raises (front delts)
or
- 3 sets rotator cuff raises (r/c)

I never go bellow 15 reps for my lateral raises.
workout lasts exactly 1 hour.

[QUOTE=BrettT07;307461241]Exactly this. I posted a video of me doing side lateral raises in the exercise section.. oh lawd. It enraged people to the point they couldn't even focus on the argument and began criticizing my chest and **** QUOTE]

bro, i noticed that your wrists go higher than your elbows, this will cause your forearms to come in to play a bit too much since we just want to isolate the delts. how does it feel for you?

[RCATES]

I have massive delts and rarely even train them. I usually only hit the rear delts ever other week.

[dannyboy33]

My shoulders are one of my best bodyparts IMO, love to train them...

I tried to do 80lbs on Seated DB Press today (PR is 80x4) and the guy that was spotting me was doing something really weird like pulling my arms back (he was spotting me from the elbows) because he said I was going too far out in front of my body. Needless to say, I couldn't do a single rep and after trying it twice I gave up. Might I have been using too much chest before? I dunno, all I know is kinda screwed up my workout...

BTW, you are pretty massive OP. (no homo)

[Pretty Boy Floyd]

my fav shoulder workout is the clean n press/clean n jerk with 135 barbell

[JimJo]

I'm hoping they atrophy a little bit, need my chest to catch up before I step on stage again. I might throw some delt training in every other week now as I think they aren't too much out of proportion now.

Your lucky brah, my shoulder atrophies first than any other muscle group, my strength aint bad all either on dumbell presses... (110 x 8).
I wish my shoulders would just grow and stay there. When i dont work them out every week it shrinks to where it is noticeable (serious).

Anybody have any good side lateral movements?

[Valenzuelatech]

My shoulders are one of my best bodyparts IMO, love to train them...

I tried to do 80lbs on Seated DB Press today (PR is 80x4) and the guy that was spotting me was doing something really weird like pulling my arms back (he was spotting me from the elbows) because he said I was going too far out in front of my body. Needless to say, I couldn't do a single rep and after trying it twice I gave up. Might I have been using too much chest before? I dunno, all I know is kinda screwed up my workout...

BTW, you are pretty massive OP. (no homo)

thx

IMO most injuries are caused by ****ty spotters. personally i only have someone spot me on the barbell bench press. pick your spotter's carefully bro.

its also a good idea to give your delts at least a day's rest before hitting shoulders.

my program right now is:

day1: back
day2: chest & leg isolation movements + calves
day3: rest
day4: shoulders
day5: arms
day6: legs - compound movements + calves
day7: rest

[xBODOMx]

Woah nice man.

I love shoulders. My favorite workout day.

[Guard1an]

my delts are pretty bad
struck up minor damage in my left delt in july
still get a little bit of pain even though MRI showed that it is nothing serious right now

[dannyboy33]

thx

IMO most injuries are caused by ****ty spotters. personally i only have someone spot me on the barbell bench press. pick your spotter's carefully bro.

its also a good idea to give your delts at least a day's rest before hitting shoulders.

my program right now is:

day1: back
day2: chest & leg isolation movements + calves
day3: rest
day4: shoulders
day5: arms
day6: legs - compound movements + calves
day7: rest

You mean 1 day rest between chest and delts right? And yeah, I do give rest. I'll try 80's again next time. I've been able to do reps of 80's by myself so this guy was the problem I think.

One more thing, sometimes when I go really heavy on seated db press I kinda lose the weights, like they will go too far out and I won't be able to bring them back in. Is it because my arm can't hold the weight or something? I can Incline press 95's with dbs so I don't know why it only happens on shoulder press.