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    Lean Extreme, Stand Alone?

    I am starting my cut for summer and was looking for a good fat burner. I've heard a lot about Mitotropin but since im not yet 21 I think I will stay away from it for now. Would Lean Extreme be fine to run alone or is there something better that I could take or stack with this to aid in my cut. I'm 18 btw.
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    it is fine solo, but it can be stacked with any stimulant fat burner.
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    what would recommend? and if i did that would i be able to take white flood pre-wo or should i lay off of it
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    LX n scortch seems to be a hot stack..

    I like LX as is.. works wonders
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    what would recommend? and if i did that would i be able to take white flood pre-wo or should i lay off of it
    adrenalean
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    your favorite stim based fat burner.

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    When I'm cutting I do a stimulant based fat burner in the morning (REDuction and Lipo6 I have used with satisfaction) and then a pre-workout product in the afternoon. A fat burner (warning: blanket statement) is typically comprised mainly of stimulants, so the pre-workout product sort of takes its place and fulfills its role in the afternoon. Careful with getting such large doses of stimulants too close to eachother. Lean Xtreme is great by itself or stacked with a stimulant based product.
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    ok cool ill look those up. their safe for my age right? im about to turn 19 in april just wanna make sure im not hurting my body. thanks for the help guys
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    If I tried really hard, I bet I could say stimulant again.
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    So long as you use them intelligently you won't have a problem. They aren't screwing with your hormones (well... Lean Xtreme is a cortisol blocker IIRC) or anything that should really be age related. My bottle of LX states 18 as the age restriction.
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    Lean Xtreme is plenty safe for those 18+.
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    need more info on lean xtreme i am going to buy it soon. Is it a fat burner, what is a cortisol blocker? Do i need to couple it with a fat burner like ripped fuel or something? any side effects?
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    Originally Posted by LLoydBanks View Post
    need more info on lean xtreme i am going to buy it soon. Is it a fat burner, what is a cortisol blocker? Do i need to couple it with a fat burner like ripped fuel or something? any side effects?
    It is a fat-burner/recomposition agent.

    It contains two ingredients which help control cortisol (a catabolic hormone), which will help you lean out, especially around the midsection. Also, the 7-OH in it, along with the forskolin will optimize thyroid function. It also has green tea to boost metabolism and provide a host of other benefits.

    You don't need to combine it with a stimulant at all, but you can if you want. Adrenalean and Scorch are great options.

    As for side-effects, the only one that is really noted is joint soreness, but that is in few users and only if too high of a dose is taken. I doubt you will have an issue if dosed correctly (3 Caps a day).
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    alright so this is my plan. im going to buy lean extreme, and scorch. i usually take white flood pre-wo but since scorch has so much caffeine in it im not going to take it while on this stack because i have high blood pressure so too much caffeine would not go over well. also will taking green mag and intrabolic be beneficial in keeping as much muscle as possible or not?
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    Personally, when I'm on a fatburning stack I would go something like this...

    Wake up - Stimulant (REDuction, Adreanalean, Hydroxy Cut, Redline, etc.) w/Lean xtreme

    4 hours later - Lean xtreme

    Pre workout - N.O. (Whiteflood, super pump, NANO Vapor, Animal Pump, etc.)

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    Originally Posted by mada071 View Post
    Personally, when I'm on a fatburning stack I would go something like this...

    Wake up - Stimulant (REDuction, Adreanalean, Hydroxy Cut, Redline, etc.) w/Lean xtreme

    4 hours later - Lean xtreme

    Pre workout - N.O. (Whiteflood, super pump, NANO Vapor, Animal Pump, etc.)

    8 hours later, Lean Xtreme
    that looks good to me. so i should only take one serving of scorch in the am then still take white flood pre-wo. i like that better. i could always use a pick-me-up in the am. i workout in the evenings though at around nine so taking the last serving of lean exreme 8hrs later would be impossible. i could just take it with my white flood though right?
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    Originally Posted by mada071 View Post
    Personally, when I'm on a fatburning stack I would go something like this...

    Wake up - Stimulant (REDuction, Adreanalean, Hydroxy Cut, Redline, etc.) w/Lean xtreme

    4 hours later - Lean xtreme

    Pre workout - N.O. (Whiteflood, super pump, NANO Vapor, Animal Pump, etc.)

    8 hours later, Lean Xtreme
    Not to hijack, but... If Mitotropin (appears to be relatively non-stim) is taken for the first 4, followed by Lean Xtreme for the next 4, can lean xtreme still be coupled with caffeine or a stim? And is this recommended with a cortisol blocker so you're not QUITE as lethargic?
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    Originally Posted by Crabb651 View Post
    that looks good to me. so i should only take one serving of scorch in the am then still take white flood pre-wo. i like that better. i could always use a pick-me-up in the am. i workout in the evenings though at around nine so taking the last serving of lean exreme 8hrs later would be impossible. i could just take it with my white flood though right?
    I take 3x a day. 1 at 8am, next at 12pm, then at 8pm.

    Yeah you could stack it with watever, I haven't found any bad effects yet.

    Right now I'm on...
    Adreanalean, Lean Xtreme and Intrabolic. I'll be finishing up my 4 weeks of LX in about 1 more week then I'll be taking 4 weeks off. I'm thinking about using Blue Gene as a non stim so I can lay off stims for awhile, but we'll see.

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    Not to hijack, but... If Mitotropin (appears to be relatively non-stim) is taken for the first 4, followed by Lean Xtreme for the next 4, can lean xtreme still be coupled with caffeine or a stim? And is this recommended with a cortisol blocker so you're not QUITE as lethargic?
    Sorry, not to sure about Mitotropin, its something quite too advanced for me x_x
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    Originally Posted by mada071 View Post
    Sorry, not to sure about Mitotropin, its something quite too advanced for me x_x
    It was out of my budget. I bought it anyway =(

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    Originally Posted by mada071 View Post
    I take 3x a day. 1 at 8am, next at 12pm, then at 8pm.

    Yeah you could stack it with watever, I haven't found any bad effects yet.

    Right now I'm on...
    Adreanalean, Lean Xtreme and Intrabolic. I'll be finishing up my 4 weeks of LX in about 1 more week then I'll be taking 4 weeks off. I'm thinking about using Blue Gene as a non stim so I can lay off stims for awhile, but we'll see.


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    Originally Posted by warrior504th View Post
    Not to hijack, but... If Mitotropin (appears to be relatively non-stim) is taken for the first 4, followed by Lean Xtreme for the next 4, can lean xtreme still be coupled with caffeine or a stim? And is this recommended with a cortisol blocker so you're not QUITE as lethargic?
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    It was out of my budget. I bought it anyway =(

    Hah
    I've researched it just a little and this is what I get from your question.

    Mitotropin is a stimulant in my opinion, I'm judging this on its ingrendint profile. first 4 weeks of Mito followed by 4 weeks of LX would be great, I would suggest maybe start the stimulant 2 weeks into LX. I feel that cycling stims is the key way of making stims working with your body. yeah, the lethargic part sucks, but with the cortiol blocker its been great.

    Originally Posted by Crabb651 View Post
    how have your results been thus far using lean extreme and adreanalean?
    Pretty good, even though I had a hard time with my diet (new job and everyone wants to go out), I was still able to strip some body fat % (started at 17% now at 15.3%). I noticed my man-boobs going down, and I feel I'll be able to make my tits go away by July.

    The adreanalean is great for my cardio, I just keep going and going and going.
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    Originally Posted by mada071 View Post
    Pretty good, even though I had a hard time with my diet (new job and everyone wants to go out), I was still able to strip some body fat % (started at 17% now at 15.3%). I noticed my man-boobs going down, and I feel I'll be able to make my tits go away by July.

    The adreanalean is great for my cardio, I just keep going and going and going.

    You're in Honolulu?? I live in Hawaii and bro i guarantee i could put you through some cardio workouts that would change your life lol....serious

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    You're in Honolulu?? I live in Hawaii and bro i guarantee i could put you through some cardio workouts that would change your life lol....serious

    but im on the west side
    xD what's your routines like? I've been doing like 30 min stair masters and HIIT on a few days.

    I have been having a hard time finding like an lower abb routine that really hurts. I've tried hanging leg raises, but my shoulder gets tired before my abs. Any suggestions?
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    What do you guys think about AX stacked with LX??
    I'm waiting for a girlfriend before I start Activate Xtreme :P

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    I'm waiting for a girlfriend before I start Activate Xtreme :P

    But i've read its a great stack.
    Its a natural t-booster, right?

    But if it works well, its like being rich. You want to know she's not dating you for the money
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    Originally Posted by mada071 View Post
    I'm waiting for a girlfriend before I start Activate Xtreme :P

    But i've read its a great stack.
    So have I lol.. Started my AX cycle today and was thinking about ordering some LX tonight to cut up a little bit before the summer.
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    Originally Posted by mada071 View Post
    xD what's your routines like? I've been doing like 30 min stair masters and HIIT on a few days.

    I have been having a hard time finding like an lower abb routine that really hurts. I've tried hanging leg raises, but my shoulder gets tired before my abs. Any suggestions?
    Im not even going to get into what my cardio sessions are like....lets just say they're challenging. You could find out you just have to meet me at a gym (or a field) and promise not to quit lol...
    lets just say i compete MMA so i have a variety of things...

    Lower abs...same thing as hanging but just lay opposite way on a sit up bench and use your hand to hang on to the foot holder. The key to isolating the lower abs (for me) is to really just picture just them working, using them to raise and lower. Hanging are good but a lot of people will use momentum and their hip flexors end up doing a lot more of the work.
    Flutter kicks are good but more of all your abs..
    After you get you can do about 50 of the reverse curls (not sure real name of them) you can get a medicine ball and put it between your feet and raise that for extra resistance.
    Situps where you lay there and bring your knees to your chest as you crunch also work out lower abs pretty well too..
    those are just off top of my head
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    Originally Posted by nightperson View Post
    Im not even going to get into what my cardio sessions are like....lets just say they're challenging. You could find out you just have to meet me at a gym (or a field) and promise not to quit lol...
    lets just say i compete MMA so i have a variety of things...

    Lower abs...same thing as hanging but just lay opposite way on a sit up bench and use your hand to hang on to the foot holder. The key to isolating the lower abs (for me) is to really just picture just them working, using them to raise and lower. Hanging are good but a lot of people will use momentum and their hip flexors end up doing a lot more of the work.
    Flutter kicks are good but more of all your abs..
    After you get you can do about 50 of the reverse curls (not sure real name of them) you can get a medicine ball and put it between your feet and raise that for extra resistance.
    Situps where you lay there and bring your knees to your chest as you crunch also work out lower abs pretty well too..
    those are just off top of my head
    cool thanks man, will rep everyone in this thread in about an hour, when I'm all rechaged up.

    I used to do MMA, but my schedule doesn't match and I'm getting KTFO'd, haha, need to lose more fat before I start that.

    Which gym you go? 24?

    Anyway, thanks for the abs exercise tips, will try to do tomorrow.
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    Originally Posted by mada071 View Post
    cool thanks man, will rep everyone in this thread in about an hour, when I'm all rechaged up.

    I used to do MMA, but my schedule doesn't match and I'm getting KTFO'd, haha, need to lose more fat before I start that.

    Which gym you go? 24?

    Anyway, thanks for the abs exercise tips, will try to do tomorrow.
    I belong to a fight gym here on the west side and couple other smaller gyms over here too that i use just for lifting and some cardio session when im too beat up to roll and spar or like now sick and cant roll with the guys in fear of getting them sick before their fights. Big fights at Blaisdalle on the 18th
    Mada if you need some help with anything, PM Me, i'll gladly share what i know for a local

    OP sorry not trying to hijack your thread, just trying to help some ppl out
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    Originally Posted by nightperson View Post
    Im not even going to get into what my cardio sessions are like....lets just say they're challenging. You could find out you just have to meet me at a gym (or a field) and promise not to quit lol...
    lets just say i compete MMA so i have a variety of things...

    Lower abs...same thing as hanging but just lay opposite way on a sit up bench and use your hand to hang on to the foot holder. The key to isolating the lower abs (for me) is to really just picture just them working, using them to raise and lower. Hanging are good but a lot of people will use momentum and their hip flexors end up doing a lot more of the work.
    Flutter kicks are good but more of all your abs..
    After you get you can do about 50 of the reverse curls (not sure real name of them) you can get a medicine ball and put it between your feet and raise that for extra resistance.
    Situps where you lay there and bring your knees to your chest as you crunch also work out lower abs pretty well too..
    those are just off top of my head
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