All you have to do is look at their records over the last few years objectively.
-Aoki has been MUCH more active at LW.
-Aoki has beat three top 10 LWs while Penn has only beat one.
BJ Penn
Wins:
Sean Sherk
Joe Stevenson
Jens Pulver
Losses:
None
Shinya Aoki
Wins:
Jason Black
Clay French
Joachim Hansen
Brian Lo-A-Njoe
Bu Kyung Jung
Gesias Cavalcante
Katsuhiko Nagata
Caol Uno
Todd Moore
Eddie Alvarez
David Gardner
Losses:
Joachim Hansen
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03-24-2009, 06:40 PM #1No Misc, No Life
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Why Shinya Aoki is the #1 LW in the world
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03-24-2009, 06:42 PM #2reads the misc
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BJ > Aoki easily
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03-24-2009, 06:45 PM #3No Misc, No Life
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So beating Sherk, Stevenson, and Pulver warrants a higher ranking than beating Alvarez, Hansen, Cavalcante, Uno, etc.?Originally Posted by huntx7
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03-24-2009, 06:50 PM #4what do my abs look like?
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aoki imo
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03-24-2009, 06:50 PM #5Vin Diesel Look-Alike
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Lol...man aoki is beast, and him and bj would have an awesome jiu-jitsu match, but face it, aoki's standup suucks and hes not strong enough to keep bj in a dominant position on the ground, bj would khtfo or rnc himOriginally Posted by Shogunator
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03-24-2009, 06:50 PM #6Sexual Tyrannosaurus
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03-24-2009, 06:51 PM #7Vin Diesel Look-Alike
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keep in mind jz was winning the 1st match until that "brutal elbow"......aoki just wanted out the 1st matchOriginally Posted by Shogunator
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03-24-2009, 06:52 PM #8Vin Diesel Look-Alike
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andy wang.....Originally Posted by ftwrestler
on guard sir
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03-24-2009, 06:52 PM #10Banned
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aoki wouldnt even be top 6 in the UFC
overrated japanese fighters are overrated
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03-24-2009, 06:55 PM #11No Misc, No Life
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Originally Posted by Hishiad
I think you both have a UFC bias. Aoki has a much more impressive record at LW over the last few years.Originally Posted by injured44
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03-24-2009, 06:56 PM #12Sexual Tyrannosaurus
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only difference is i was seriousOriginally Posted by BodyBuilder910
andy wang.....
on guard sir
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03-24-2009, 06:58 PM #13Name and Rank?
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Aoki would lose to the majority of the top 10 LHW's in the UFC
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You were probably one of the guys who thought Chase Beebe would win the DREAM FWGP.Originally Posted by injured44
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03-24-2009, 06:59 PM #15Tennesseeian Crew
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03-24-2009, 06:59 PM #16Vin Diesel Look-Alike
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so was iOriginally Posted by ftwrestler
wait wut?
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Ok. Who are the top 10 LWs in the UFC and which of them do you think would beat Aoki?Originally Posted by MUFC
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03-24-2009, 07:01 PM #18Sexual Tyrannosaurus
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Originally Posted by BodyBuilder910
damn straight
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03-24-2009, 07:01 PM #19
Do you honestly think Aoki would beat BJ?
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This is Aoki. He's a submission god and the undisputed king of the butt scoot.Originally Posted by Hishiad
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Do you know how rankings work?Originally Posted by 2kool4skool
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I think thatOriginally Posted by Shogunator
Penn
Sherk
Maynard
Stevenson
Kenny
Griffin
all beat him
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03-24-2009, 07:12 PM #23Vin Diesel Look-Alike
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when is butt scoot something to brag about? phail number 1Originally Posted by Shogunator
This is Aoki. He's a submission god and the undisputed king of the butt scoot.
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03-24-2009, 07:13 PM #24Tennesseeian Crew
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Yeah saw some youtubage...I was a bit disappointed in his triangles from what I saw...the clip had 'em do like 3 or so and he didn't choke anyone out with any of them. He had to keep adjusting and turned it into a GNP hold instead of a sub.
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ANd I think that only Penn would beat him out of those five. Aoki does fine against wrestlers.Originally Posted by MUFC
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Aoki does fine against anyone who takes him down or is stupid enough to engage with him on the ground. Any intelligent wrestler will just pummel his face in while standing.Originally Posted by Shogunator
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03-24-2009, 07:19 PM #27There is no specific way rankings "work" in MMA or any sport where record alone can't determine the ranking, hence the controversy every year over the BCS rankings.Originally Posted by Shogunator
Now, you've admitted BJ would likely beat Aoki. Do you think Aoki can take a higher % of the top 5 than BJ on a consistent basis? The top 10?
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Rankings aren't about who you think would win. It's about what the fighters have actually done in the ring or cage. Aoki has done a lot more at LW over the last few years than BJ has.Originally Posted by 2kool4skool
Do you think every one of your #1 fighters would beat everyone ranked below them?
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No way Griffin, Stevenson, or Maynard would beat him.
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