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    What is the percentage of legal and illegal gun crime?

    Like of all gun crimes combined, what percent was with legal guns and what percent with illegal guns? ive always been real curious to know this. I think if u showed the general public the statistics which would show the large majority are done with illegal guns maybe people would wake up and not think every law abiding citizen who owns a gun is evil or some crap.
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    I have several studies somewhere. I will tell you right now that the percentage of gun-related crimes committed with legally purchased guns is very low. Well into the single digit kind of low.
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    http://www.gunfacts.info/

    Try here. Best i found was the 80% of inmates who commited crimes with a gun were not legally able to purchase a weapon.

    Im sure the info is there somewhere....
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    Originally Posted by Ultra_Magnus View Post
    http://www.gunfacts.info/

    Try here. Best i found was the 80% of inmates who commited crimes with a gun were not legally able to purchase a weapon.

    Im sure the info is there somewhere....
    that ebook is awesome b/c it states facts that have been gathered by OUR federal gov and collegiate studies and surveys.
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    when i was in my pistol safety course(required by NY), the guy teaching it, who is a legit dude. He was in the army for many many years, law enforcement for like 25 years, etc etc.


    Anyways, he was showing a bunch of gun statistics for NYS. one of them stated that of all crimes committed with guns. only 1/4 of 1% of them were with legally registered guns by the legal owner.
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    Armed: New Perspectives on Gun Control by Gary Kleck and Don B. Kates

    This is a very good book that breaks down the statistics and shows you exactly how the anti-gun crowd misinterprets things in their favor.
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    Originally Posted by Getter_done View Post
    Like of all gun crimes combined, what percent was with legal guns and what percent with illegal guns? ive always been real curious to know this. I think if u showed the general public the statistics which would show the large majority are done with illegal guns maybe people would wake up and not think every law abiding citizen who owns a gun is evil or some crap.
    Here is your first problem. You are assuming that most people are able to think rationally.
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    Originally Posted by bamatank View Post
    Here is your first problem. You are assuming that most people are able to think rationally.
    Exactly. There's a misconception out there that guns make people evil, not vice versa.
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    I remember reading something that says 9/10 gun crimes that are done down here are with unregistered firearms(you need to register them for legal ownership).
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    Thumbs up found the answer

    according to the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, 93% of all firearms used in criminal acts are obtained illegally. this leaves the remaining 7% firearms used in criminal acts that are obtained legally. This specific data can be found under the section titled
    MYTH: Gun shows are supermarkets for criminals -on the pdf. file on the website listed below. this site also offers refutations to common misconceptions about many topics involving gun control. All statistics and information are supported by full citations from credible sources. take a look, there is some good info.

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    Originally Posted by madrox03 View Post
    according to the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, 93% of all firearms used in criminal acts are obtained illegally. this leaves the remaining 7% firearms used in criminal acts that are obtained legally. This specific data can be found under the section titled
    MYTH: Gun shows are supermarkets for criminals -on the pdf. file on the website listed below. this site also offers refutations to common misconceptions about many topics involving gun control. All statistics and information are supported by full citations from credible sources. take a look, there is some good info.

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    Unfortunately you need to cite unbiased sources.

    Here is an unbiased source, roughly 80% with 6% unaccounted for.

    http://www.policyalmanac.org/crime/a...nd_crime.shtml

    However this was in 1997, so we can only assume with an increase in population and the still inadequite enforcement of felony firearms cases, that the percentage has increased.
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    Originally Posted by El Gilbro View Post
    Exactly. There's a misconception out there that guns make people evil, not vice versa.
    So, evil makes people guns then?

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    Originally Posted by madrox03 View Post
    according to the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, 93% of all firearms used in criminal acts are obtained illegally. this leaves the remaining 7% firearms used in criminal acts that are obtained legally. This specific data can be found under the section titled
    MYTH: Gun shows are supermarkets for criminals -on the pdf. file on the website listed below. this site also offers refutations to common misconceptions about many topics involving gun control. All statistics and information are supported by full citations from credible sources. take a look, there is some good info.

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    really helpin the cause and educating people.
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    Fact: Less than 1% of firearms will ever be used in a comission of crime.

    FBI Uniform Crime Statistics 1994

    i tried to find the percentage of those guns that are legal/illegal but didnt spot it...

    Fact: 90% of all violent crimes in the US did not involve firearms of any type

    Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, 1998
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    really helpin the cause and educating people.
    I almost feel bad. I told a guy last sunday that today was a fine day to die shortly after he threatened me.

    I really did not care about advancing anything at that particular point in time.

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