powerlifting vs bodybuilding

[samsuperjew5]

age:15
stats: 5'7 168lbs

lol, age: 22
training experience: 6 years
stats: 6'0'' 185 lbs


and whats your total exactly? I train for strength, so being light is actually an advantage in meets....

[batmanman]

sorry zach, but that is a horrible analogy

(i'm gonna use bench, cause i dont really think/care bout curling )


two people start working out


one has been training for 6 months with a 135 lb bench, and has been doing it in a rep range of 100x12 every week, and moves up slowly

the other has been training for 6 months, starting with a 135 lb bench, and has been taking advantage of their noob gains, and has ben going up 5 lbs a week, and now has a 2 plate bench


who is going to be bigger?

for about the first month they get neural increases

depends on how they train

increasing weight is key... but you can't ever train with just one rep range forever... you have to use high and low reps

[samsuperjew5]

it all depends what your goals are i guess

i'm content training in the 1-3 rep range even if it doesn't give me much size, because its easy to gain strength, and neural gains are easy as fuk

etc.


edit: zach, have you heard of ironaddicts.com?

[JoeyDaFool]

btw jlo, you were the guy bragging in the teen section about false stats then posted your horrible lifts in the powerlifting section and got owned

[batmanman]

it all depends what your goals are i guess

i'm content training in the 1-3 rep range even if it doesn't give me much size, because its easy to gain strength, and neural gains are easy as fuk

etc.


edit: zach, have you heard of ironaddicts.com?

ya I read ironaddicts, but I don't have a username

and you stated your "opinion"

if it is truly only your opinion then you shouldnt be so feisty towards joeydafool

[JoeyDaFool]

i'm content training in the 1-3 rep range even if it doesn't give me much size,

this is just too easy

[batmanman]

not really, i'm a pler, i train for strength not size......


i wouldn't tell someone who wants to get bigger to train in my rep range, but i wouldn't have them following a bodybuilding routine either.....


what would you suggest?

6-8 reps ftw

[whitesox3223]

6-8 reps ftw

lulz

[batmanman]

lulz

i just like that one because its the one I feel the most the next day

ya know the one that makes it hard for me to walk up stairs

[JoeyDaFool]

it all depends what your goals are i guess

i'm content training in the 1-3 rep range even if it doesn't give me much size, because its easy to gain strength, and neural gains are easy as fuk

etc.


edit: zach, have you heard of ironaddicts.com?

LOLOLOL you read ironaddicts? that site has been thoroughly made fun of by the exercise section of bb.com


just a bunch of fat guys posting horrible "strength" videos on youtube and giving stupidly unwanted advice. you'd think these guys were trolls but they're for reals

[JoeyDaFool]

not really, i'm a pler, i train for strength not size......


i wouldn't tell someone who wants to get bigger to train in my rep range, but i wouldn't have them following a bodybuilding routine either.....


what would you suggest?

i suggest you to stop posting. immediately.

[Unst0pp4bl3]

every lift i do is assisted by my obesity. Not just bouncing the bar off my fat gut when i bench, or pushing my gut into a belt on squats, but even my curls, deadlift, and OH pressing are assisted by my enormous belly.



at least according to tallguy.

[Unst0pp4bl3]

lmfao, tallguy was such a failure, he couldn't be helped. He's been banned by like 2-3 boards now

he literally made 0 gains whatsoever over teh course of a year.

in before he makes a new account and 1 stars my log for this comment.

[Hartley110]

Don't argue with idiots sam lol.

[batmanman]

I lift weights sometimes

[batmanman]

does that make you a weightlifter?

no im just a guy who lifts weights with no certain specific goal... but still having goals

[GetBigyo]

agreed, but low rep ranges are overated imo for building msucle, specially around these parts, no denying that getting stronger will get you bigger but 5x5 squats is not enough to build sick legs like alot of people SEEM to think

You are offically a fkin idiot. congradulations.how do you know how to get big? are you big yet? are your strong? so how do you konw how to really get "sick legs"? have you tried 5x5 or you stopped during it b/c you didnt get "sick legs"?

untill you have a 300/400/500, i dont think you should train for size


but thats just my opinion

THIS x111241251353535232

powerlifting!

in the early years strenth training = size

THIS. repped/

as a beginner strength and size or linear. i was doing bull**** high volume routines for 2 years and made no strengh/size gains and now im on 5x5 and making great gains.

Powerbuilding FTW.

I respect BBing and PL though.

[SquatzAndPuke]

D. Olympic Lifting

This **** right here.

[allergic2rice]

sam be mad itt

[*DH*]

Brb getting advice from a piece of **** site like Iron Addicts, which is completely bogus. Hey lets pile up a ****load of broscience, spread it out to the public, and then tell people how awesome True protein is (because they pay us to say so), and how ****ing easy your life will be if you use redpoint.com. REDPOINT TRUE PROTEIN. DONT BUY ANYTHING ELSE. WASTE ALL YOUR MONEY ON THESE TWO BECAUSE IF YOU DONT YOU WILL NOT GROW.

Edit: Just kidding, I love IA.

[GetBigyo]

Brb getting advice from a piece of **** site like Iron Addicts, which is completely bogus. Hey lets pile up a ****load of broscience, spread it out to the public, and then tell people how awesome True protein is (because they pay us to say so), and how ****ing easy your life will be if you use redpoint.com. REDPOINT TRUE PROTEIN. DONT BUY ANYTHING ELSE. WASTE ALL YOUR MONEY ON THESE TWO BECAUSE IF YOU DONT YOU WILL NOT GROW.

Edit: Just kidding, I love IA.

i lol'd.

IA.com FTW

[JoeyDaFool]

lmao, that kid is so ****in stupid


where did he run off to?

i went to steal all your gold. i'm back now




u mad?

[JoeyDaFool]

lol, i want to get joey back in here,

begging much?

samsuperjew's neg comment btw:

"lol, this has gone on too long, you're clearly beyond hope, please answer a couple questions for me ITT, it'l be the 167/168th post"

one word: desperation

[JoeyDaFool]

he literally made 0 gains whatsoever over teh course of a year.

in before he makes a new account and 1 stars my log for this comment.

well bro, he's obviously better at this game than you are. last 2 posts show you're too sensitive


did he break your heart? lulz

[Unst0pp4bl3]

well bro, he's obviously better at this game than you are. last 2 posts show you're too sensitive


did he break your heart? lulz

u sound mad.

i still like tallguy no matter what, noone else brings the lulz as much

edit: like the whole thing about me being fat and only being strong cuz im fat was a joke that actually started about babyslayer.

tallguy said "LONG ARMS DONT MEAN **** FOR BENCHING IF UR GUTS AS HIGH AS THE EIFFEL TOWERS"

so now when ever i lift i lot of weight he says its cuz of my gut lol

[avenged7x4lyfe]

powerbuilding

[batmanman]

Some people don't understand how neural and hypertrophy gains work.

Your muscles only have a certain amount of motor units, and after that first month your muscles have made most of the neural gains they will make.

After that you have to gain muscle to be able to lift more weight because all of your motor units are already firing.

Type 2b muscle fibers use the creatine phosphate system for energy and they are used for the highest production of force, like in powerlifting. 2a muscle fibers use glycogen storage and they can somewhat mimic the characteristics of 2b or 1a fibers. 1a fibers are your red oxidative fibers that run on oxygen and fat.

So when a bodybuilder trains in a higher rep range like lets say... 8-12... he is working his 2a muscle fibers... When he works these muscles he is also gaining glycogen storage weight. So lets say he gained 20 pounds of muscle and glycogen storage. Now he can benchpress 500 pounds.

When a powerlifter trains, he trains with lower rep ranges like 1-3. He is training his 2b fibers. These muscles don't use glycogen like 2a fibers do. So when this powerlifter gains weight its mostly muscle. His endurance suffers because of his lack of other fuel sources. So when he gets to be able to bench 500 pounds then he may gain just 12 pounds.

So what we end up with here is a bodybuilder who is bigger than a powerlifter. They both are lifting the same.

This may help explain that the gains that powerlifters are making aren't "neural"

[rugby121]

^^ How does the bber bench 500 by training in the 8-12 rep range eh? (assuming no gear used)

[batmanman]

^^ How does the bber bench 500 by training in the 8-12 rep range eh? (assuming no gear used)

ugh... facepalm.... its an example brah

i lyk bodybuilding better powerlifting you get strong but you dont luk gud

oh gawd not you guys again

[PumpinPaddy]

^^ How does the bber bench 500 by training in the 8-12 rep range eh? (assuming no gear used)

lol, yeah

you just said "now he can benchpress 500lbs"

explanation as to how he can? because he gained 20lbs of muscle?

it doesnt make sense