Bodybuilding.com Information Motivation Supplementation
in:

    The World’s #1 Bodybuilding And Fitness Forum - Save Up To 50% Off Retail Prices In Our Bodybuilding.com Store!

Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 37
  1. #1
    Registered User Cheah_its_Scott's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2006
    Age: 21
    Posts: 38
    Rep Power: 0
    Cheah_its_Scott is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Cheah_its_Scott is offline

    Ab Crunches-every day, or every other day?

    Do you get better results if you do Ab Crunches every day, or every other day?
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    No cardio No cry RU4A69's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2005
    Age: 34
    Stats: 5'8", 181 lbs
    Posts: 10,961
    BodyPoints: 25896
    Rep Power: 3074
    RU4A69 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) RU4A69 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) RU4A69 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) RU4A69 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) RU4A69 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) RU4A69 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) RU4A69 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) RU4A69 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) RU4A69 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) RU4A69 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) RU4A69 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit RU4A69's BodySpace
    RU4A69 is offline
    hard and heavy 1-2 times a week

    abs recover VERY quickly, but every day is pushing it. You can prolly get away with light training every other day.

    You're gonna get flamed, but I think doing bodyweight exercises is fun and keeps ya in shape when it's f ing freezing outside
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ******** TRAP BAR BOARD REP*******
    VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
    ___________________________________
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Registered User BtownzDesi's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Age: 25
    Posts: 35
    Rep Power: 0
    BtownzDesi is a jewel in the rough. (+500) BtownzDesi is a jewel in the rough. (+500) BtownzDesi is a jewel in the rough. (+500) BtownzDesi is a jewel in the rough. (+500) BtownzDesi is a jewel in the rough. (+500) BtownzDesi is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    BtownzDesi is offline
    Everwhere ive read its said to have at least a days rest after an ab workout however, in arnolds encyclopedia it says to work them out everyday.. but maybe that was the old school method :S
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Registered User danimal81's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Posts: 409
    Rep Power: 1174
    danimal81 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) danimal81 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) danimal81 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) danimal81 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) danimal81 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) danimal81 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) danimal81 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) danimal81 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) danimal81 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) danimal81 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) danimal81 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    danimal81 is offline
    Originally Posted by Cheah_its_Scott View Post
    Do you get better results if you do Ab Crunches every day, or every other day?
    I do them 3X a week. but you have to do weighted
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Drive+Knowledge=Success CF10's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2002
    Posts: 3,970
    BodyPoints: 22756
    Rep Power: 1968
    CF10 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CF10 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CF10 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CF10 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CF10 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CF10 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CF10 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CF10 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CF10 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CF10 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) CF10 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit CF10's BodySpace
    CF10 is offline
    I treat them like any other bodypart. Once or twice a week is good.
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    writes scary stories I_love_crows's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Location: United States
    Age: 36
    Stats: 5'7", 206 lbs
    Posts: 5,003
    BodyPoints: 28135
    Rep Power: 5464
    I_love_crows has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) I_love_crows has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) I_love_crows has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) I_love_crows has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) I_love_crows has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) I_love_crows has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) I_love_crows has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) I_love_crows has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) I_love_crows has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) I_love_crows has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) I_love_crows has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit I_love_crows's BodySpace
    I_love_crows is offline
    My routine is every other day...light.
    OUTLAW split:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1830521

    Videos:
    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MikeyTheCrow
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    $GO HARD$ powrfrk's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Location: Pennsylvania, United States
    Age: 32
    Stats: 5'7", 215 lbs
    Posts: 404
    BodyPoints: 4418
    Rep Power: 116
    powrfrk has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) powrfrk has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) powrfrk has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) powrfrk has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) powrfrk has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) powrfrk has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) powrfrk has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) powrfrk has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) powrfrk has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) powrfrk has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) powrfrk has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit powrfrk's BodySpace
    powrfrk is offline
    Eod
    STFU & EAT!
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    Registered User tbush's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2006
    Age: 28
    Stats: 6'0", 210 lbs
    Posts: 908
    BodyPoints: 8527
    Rep Power: 58
    tbush has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) tbush has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) tbush has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) tbush has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) tbush has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) tbush has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) tbush has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) tbush has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) tbush has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) tbush has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) tbush has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000)
    Visit tbush's BodySpace
    tbush is offline
    i doubt you would see any difference between every day and every other day
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    Exotic Bud Enthusiast TheStuddMuffin's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2006
    Posts: 3,274
    BodyPoints: 6862
    Rep Power: 120
    TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit TheStuddMuffin's BodySpace
    TheStuddMuffin is offline
    Ab training is nearly pointless.

    I can only list a couple of reasons on how they're not pointless.
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    Traps R' Us HawkLifter55's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2006
    Age: 26
    Stats: 6'0", 222 lbs
    Posts: 3,940
    BodyPoints: 10316
    Rep Power: 1221
    HawkLifter55 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) HawkLifter55 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) HawkLifter55 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) HawkLifter55 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) HawkLifter55 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) HawkLifter55 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) HawkLifter55 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) HawkLifter55 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) HawkLifter55 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) HawkLifter55 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) HawkLifter55 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit HawkLifter55's BodySpace
    HawkLifter55 is offline
    Originally Posted by TheStuddMuffin View Post
    Ab training is nearly pointless.

    I can only list a couple of reasons on how they're not pointless.
    And those are??
    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    Banned Mtguy8787's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2006
    Location: United States
    Stats: 6'4", 217 lbs
    Posts: 12,778
    BodyPoints: 15035
    Rep Power: 0
    Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit Mtguy8787's BodySpace
    Mtguy8787 is offline
    Originally Posted by TheStuddMuffin View Post
    Ab training is nearly pointless.

    I can only list a couple of reasons on how they're not pointless.
    Says the obese man with a pudgy 1-pack set of abs.
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Exotic Bud Enthusiast TheStuddMuffin's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2006
    Posts: 3,274
    BodyPoints: 6862
    Rep Power: 120
    TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit TheStuddMuffin's BodySpace
    TheStuddMuffin is offline
    Originally Posted by HawkLifter55 View Post
    And those are??
    - Sports performance, including: wrestling, judo, boxing, and other forms of martial arts. A strong core can be beneficial in football, hockey, etc.

    - Other than low bodyfat, a larger (than small) sheet of muscle is needed to reveal your abs. However, squating and deadlifting can fufill this task.

    - Powerlifting. A strong core is needed to support a massive amount of weight.

    Originally Posted by Mtguy8787 View Post
    Says the obese man with a pudgy 1-pack set of abs.
    If that obese man could understand a diet and cardio schedule, he would have the abs. You sir, are ignorant for negging me without understanding.
    Last edited by TheStuddMuffin; 01-20-2007 at 09:28 PM.
    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    Banned Mtguy8787's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2006
    Location: United States
    Stats: 6'4", 217 lbs
    Posts: 12,778
    BodyPoints: 15035
    Rep Power: 0
    Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Mtguy8787 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit Mtguy8787's BodySpace
    Mtguy8787 is offline
    Originally Posted by TheStuddMuffin View Post
    - Sports performance, including: wrestling, judo, boxing, and other forms of martial arts. A strong core can be beneficial in football, hockey, etc. 1.) This is a bodybuilding forum. And even if it wasnt, how does that make ab work pointless? It doesnt

    - Other than low bodyfat, a larger (than small) sheet of muscle is needed to reveal your abs. However, squating and deadlifting can fufill this task. Deads and squats dont directly work your abs. Abs contract the opposite way. All I can say is... wow, strong lack of basic physiological knowledge. And even if they did, it still doesnt make ab work pointless

    - Powerlifting. A strong core is needed to support a massive amount of weight. No kidding?? Still doesnt make ab work useless.



    If that obese man could understand a diet and cardio schedule, he would have the abs. You sir, are ignorant for negging me without understanding.
    You are an idiot.
    Again, this is BBing. Training your abs is obviously important for achieving an ideal physique. There arent even that many compound exercises that directly work your abs.
    Reply With Quote

  14. #14
    Exotic Bud Enthusiast TheStuddMuffin's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2006
    Posts: 3,274
    BodyPoints: 6862
    Rep Power: 120
    TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TheStuddMuffin has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit TheStuddMuffin's BodySpace
    TheStuddMuffin is offline
    Originally Posted by Mtguy8787 View Post
    You are an idiot.
    Again, this is BBing. Training your abs is obviously important for achieving an ideal physique. There arent even that many compound exercises that directly work your abs.
    We've already taken this to the PM, so nothing more is to say here.
    Reply With Quote

  15. #15
    Poliquin / DDP Yoga papi93's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: United States
    Posts: 54,829
    BodyPoints: 42717
    Rep Power: 302983
    papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit papi93's BodySpace
    papi93 is offline
    Originally Posted by TheStuddMuffin View Post
    We've already taken this to the PM, so nothing more is to say here.
    Strength the abdominals is an excellent way to prevent back pain. Tight hip flexors and weak abs can lead to back pain.
    Reply With Quote

  16. #16
    Registered User ERCVGII's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2006
    Age: 30
    Stats: 5'4", 180 lbs
    Posts: 1,309
    BodyPoints: 3600
    Rep Power: 37
    ERCVGII has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ERCVGII has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ERCVGII has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ERCVGII has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ERCVGII has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ERCVGII has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ERCVGII has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ERCVGII has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ERCVGII has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ERCVGII has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) ERCVGII has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    Visit ERCVGII's BodySpace
    ERCVGII is offline

    Lightbulb

    I work out abs twice a week and obliques once a week on a 3 day split.
    About my rep: I was the christian in an atheist post :D

    100% rep and neg return.

    OVT Training FTW!
    Reply With Quote

  17. #17
    NASM CPT Carmen0857's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2005
    Posts: 2,468
    BodyPoints: 8946
    Rep Power: 160
    Carmen0857 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Carmen0857 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Carmen0857 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Carmen0857 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Carmen0857 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Carmen0857 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Carmen0857 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Carmen0857 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Carmen0857 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Carmen0857 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Carmen0857 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Visit Carmen0857's BodySpace
    Carmen0857 is offline

    Thumbs down

    Originally Posted by TheStuddMuffin View Post
    Ab training is nearly pointless.
    This is a ridiculous statment, no matter what your goal is.

    Originally Posted by TheStuddMuffin
    squating and deadlifting can fufill this task.
    Saying squats and deads are enough work for your abs is like saying flat and decline bench is enough for your lats.
    Reply With Quote

  18. #18
    Poliquin / DDP Yoga papi93's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2006
    Location: United States
    Posts: 54,829
    BodyPoints: 42717
    Rep Power: 302983
    papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) papi93 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit papi93's BodySpace
    papi93 is offline
    Many think that all you need to do is posterior chain work (deadlifts, reverse hypers, etc.) and you can ignore trunk work. That is not the case. "According to sprint coach, Charlie Francis, an overemphasis on exercises such as good mornings or deadlifts can result in weakness of the quadratus lumborum muscle which is considered by some to be the most important stabilizer of the spine! This will lead to an unbalanced core. If this is indeed true, then a variety of side bridges, bends, and flexions should cure the problem."
    Reply With Quote

  19. #19
    <3 Tea Zensuji's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2004
    Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Age: 35
    Stats: 6'1", 220 lbs
    Posts: 9,092
    BodyPoints: 7192
    Rep Power: 6500
    Zensuji has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Zensuji has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Zensuji has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Zensuji has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Zensuji has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Zensuji has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Zensuji has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Zensuji has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Zensuji has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Zensuji has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Zensuji has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit Zensuji's BodySpace
    Zensuji is offline
    this is bodybuilding.com not BareMinimum.com although it does feel like the latter alot.

    with threads like

    "not working the abs directly vs not working the abs atall vs just sitting on the sofa avioding overtraining"
    Last edited by tetsuo; 01-22-2007 at 07:50 AM.
    Reply With Quote

  20. #20
    Registered User STDsInUrHardDrive's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Age: 25
    Stats: 5'2", 124 lbs
    Posts: 311
    BodyPoints: 1467
    Rep Power: 0
    STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)
    Visit STDsInUrHardDrive's BodySpace
    STDsInUrHardDrive is offline
    Crunches are a good ab exercise, but they're not nearly the most effective and while they should be incorporated into the ab routine, they shouldn't be the base. To clear that up, crunches shouldn't be the base like squats are to legs, crunches hardly have any range of motion involved at all and are kind of like sprinting is to the quads. I'd say, do crunches after you've done something like leg raises or roman chair situps or seated crunch machines. It's probably good(for most people) to do some kind of light ab work every day, but hitting them hard and heavy a few times a week. Personally, If my abs aren't sore, I continue hitting them hard every day, starting from the lower abs and going onto crunches and situps.
    Reply With Quote

  21. #21
    Registered User STDsInUrHardDrive's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Age: 25
    Stats: 5'2", 124 lbs
    Posts: 311
    BodyPoints: 1467
    Rep Power: 0
    STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)
    Visit STDsInUrHardDrive's BodySpace
    STDsInUrHardDrive is offline
    Originally Posted by Carmen0857 View Post
    Saying squats and deads are enough work for your abs is like saying flat and decline bench is enough for your lats.
    Heh, cept lats aren't incorporated into just about every single movement one does:-p
    Reply With Quote

  22. #22
    Registered User STDsInUrHardDrive's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Age: 25
    Stats: 5'2", 124 lbs
    Posts: 311
    BodyPoints: 1467
    Rep Power: 0
    STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)
    Visit STDsInUrHardDrive's BodySpace
    STDsInUrHardDrive is offline
    Originally Posted by BtownzDesi View Post
    Everwhere ive read its said to have at least a days rest after an ab workout however, in arnolds encyclopedia it says to work them out everyday.. but maybe that was the old school method :S
    Arnold himself admitted that when he was in his prime, he had very little access to the modern knowledge of bodybuilding we have today. The man would train two times a day, 3 hours each, overtraining. I really don't put much stock on his opinions concerning the amount to work out, although I trust his teachings on form.
    Reply With Quote

  23. #23
    Squats traps to grass Defiant1's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2004
    Age: 89
    Stats: 7'1", 100 lbs
    Posts: 38,517
    BodyPoints: 37384
    Rep Power: 67684
    Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit Defiant1's BodySpace
    Defiant1 is offline
    Originally Posted by xxoddxx View Post
    Arnold himself admitted that when he was in his prime, he had very little access to the modern knowledge of bodybuilding we have today. The man would train two times a day, 3 hours each, overtraining. I really don't put much stock on his opinions concerning the amount to work out, although I trust his teachings on form.
    Arnold never said that. Ever. Not about when he was in his prime.

    What "modern knowledge that we have today"?

    And please describe how the rectus abdominis, the primary function of which is to bring the pelvis toward the sternum is incorporated into every single movement we do?
    CSCS, ACSM cPT.
    Reply With Quote

  24. #24
    Registered User STDsInUrHardDrive's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Age: 25
    Stats: 5'2", 124 lbs
    Posts: 311
    BodyPoints: 1467
    Rep Power: 0
    STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)
    Visit STDsInUrHardDrive's BodySpace
    STDsInUrHardDrive is offline
    Originally Posted by Defiant1 View Post
    What "modern knowledge that we have today"?
    That overtraining does more damage than it does good.
    Originally Posted by Defiant1
    And please describe how the rectus abdominis, the primary function of which is to bring the pelvis toward the sternum is incorporated into every single movement we do?
    I didn't say rectus abdominis, I said abdominals, which comprise of all the complex hip and abdomen muscles, otherwise known as the, "abs."
    The abs have three main functions.
    The main function is articulation of the trunk. Another is stabilization of the trunk. The third is assistance of the diaphragmatic/respiratory function.
    Bending any which way recruits the abdominals. Breathing recruits the abdominals. Let's look at some of the basic exercises done today and see how the recruit the abs.
    Squat: stabilization and breathing.
    Bench: stabilization and breathing.
    Preacher: breathing.
    Sleeping: breathing.
    Walking: all three.
    Hell, I could even take this as far as thinking requiring abdominal support as long as one is using oxygen to think.
    Reply With Quote

  25. #25
    Squats traps to grass Defiant1's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2004
    Age: 89
    Stats: 7'1", 100 lbs
    Posts: 38,517
    BodyPoints: 37384
    Rep Power: 67684
    Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit Defiant1's BodySpace
    Defiant1 is offline
    Originally Posted by xxoddxx View Post
    That overtraining does more damage than it does good.
    It does? How can you say that? Do you realize how crazy that sounds? You are saying that essentially 99% of the people that trained that way didn't know how to train, and that you as an 18 year old know better than they do? That a very intelligent person, who was a multiple Mr Olympia, Multi-Millionaire from Real Estate investment, and is now Governor of California married into the Kennedy family, didn't know what he was doing? Think about that for a second and let it sink in...

    In fact, if you look at the "bodybuilding" routines recommended by Zatsiorsky in "Science and Practice" and Bompa in "Serious Strength Training", they seriously resemble the training from that time period.

    I didn't say rectus abdominis, I said abdominals, which comprise of all the complex hip and abdomen muscles, otherwise known as the, "abs."
    The abs have three main functions.
    The main function is articulation of the trunk. Another is stabilization of the trunk. The third is assistance of the diaphragmatic/respiratory function.
    Bending any which way recruits the abdominals. Breathing recruits the abdominals. Let's look at some of the basic exercises done today and see how the recruit the abs.
    Squat: stabilization and breathing.
    Bench: stabilization and breathing.
    Preacher: breathing.
    Sleeping: breathing.
    Walking: all three.
    Hell, I could even take this as far as thinking requiring abdominal support as long as one is using oxygen to think.
    One, the question was about crunches, which are an exercise for the rectus abdominis primarily.

    Two, "Recruiting" is not "training". You are saying that "breathing" and "stabilizing" trains the COMPLETE abs? That is a silly assertion.

    By the very fact that your recommend training lower abs first, you acknowledge that the rectus is partitioned, and therefore needs to worked completely and from different angles for full development.
    CSCS, ACSM cPT.
    Reply With Quote

  26. #26
    Layer Cake ThickAsABrick's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2006
    Stats: 5'8", 210 lbs
    Posts: 40,637
    BodyPoints: 38230
    Rep Power: 94994
    ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit ThickAsABrick's BodySpace
    ThickAsABrick is offline
    PWN3ED!!!111one!!
    You're born, you take sh*t. You get out in the world, you take more sh*t. You climb a little higher, you take less sh*t. Till one day you're up in the rarefied atmosphere and you've forgotten what sh*t even looks like. Welcome to the layer cake, son.
    Reply With Quote

  27. #27
    Registered User STDsInUrHardDrive's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Age: 25
    Stats: 5'2", 124 lbs
    Posts: 311
    BodyPoints: 1467
    Rep Power: 0
    STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank) STDsInUrHardDrive is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)
    Visit STDsInUrHardDrive's BodySpace
    STDsInUrHardDrive is offline
    Originally Posted by Defiant1 View Post
    "Recruiting" is not "training". You are saying that "breathing" and "stabilizing" trains the COMPLETE abs? That is a silly assertion.
    Actually, you requested information regarding how the rectus abdominis is incorporated into almost every single movement made. I informed you that I wasn't referring to that muscle, and even still then informed you of how it IS incorporated into every single movement, and I'm the one people think just got PWNed? No sir, YOU are the one with the ego too large to recognize when you're wrong.
    Regarding overtraining, I couldn't give a **** about it. If Arnold did it and it worked for him but every single personal trainer on the planet who's ACE or NESTA or AFFA certified tells you not to do it, then I'll trust the ones with the degrees instead of the guy who has a bigger set of calves than his very brain(not saying he's stupid). Some people can make a living off of driving 100+ MPH in front of blood thirsty audiences, so let's all go do that and see how well the world runs.
    Furthermore, you still haven't accepted that I'm correct in my assertion that the abdominals are used in every single movement possible, nor have you negated it, you've simply changed topic in efforts to cover your own mishap.
    I'm sick of this site, poor debate, and glaring lack of education left and right, good riddance.
    Reply With Quote

  28. #28
    Layer Cake ThickAsABrick's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2006
    Stats: 5'8", 210 lbs
    Posts: 40,637
    BodyPoints: 38230
    Rep Power: 94994
    ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) ThickAsABrick has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit ThickAsABrick's BodySpace
    ThickAsABrick is offline
    lol
    You're born, you take sh*t. You get out in the world, you take more sh*t. You climb a little higher, you take less sh*t. Till one day you're up in the rarefied atmosphere and you've forgotten what sh*t even looks like. Welcome to the layer cake, son.
    Reply With Quote

  29. #29
    Squats traps to grass Defiant1's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2004
    Age: 89
    Stats: 7'1", 100 lbs
    Posts: 38,517
    BodyPoints: 37384
    Rep Power: 67684
    Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) Defiant1 has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit Defiant1's BodySpace
    Defiant1 is offline
    Originally Posted by xxoddxx View Post
    Actually, you requested information regarding how the rectus abdominis is incorporated into almost every single movement made. I informed you that I wasn't referring to that muscle, and even still then informed you of how it IS incorporated into every single movement, and I'm the one people think just got PWNed? No sir, YOU are the one with the ego too large to recognize when you're wrong.
    Regarding overtraining, I couldn't give a **** about it. If Arnold did it and it worked for him but every single personal trainer on the planet who's ACE or NESTA or AFFA certified tells you not to do it, then I'll trust the ones with the degrees instead of the guy who has a bigger set of calves than his very brain(not saying he's stupid). Some people can make a living off of driving 100+ MPH in front of blood thirsty audiences, so let's all go do that and see how well the world runs.
    Furthermore, you still haven't accepted that I'm correct in my assertion that the abdominals are used in every single movement possible, nor have you negated it, you've simply changed topic in efforts to cover your own mishap.
    I'm sick of this site, poor debate, and glaring lack of education left and right, good riddance.
    Lol:

    You made this SPECIFIC STATEMENT regarding "Carmens" quote.


    Originally Posted by Carmen0857 View Post
    This is a ridiculous statment, no matter what your goal is.

    Saying squats and deads are enough work for your abs is like saying flat and decline bench is enough for your lats.
    Originally Posted by xxoddxx View Post
    Heh, cept lats aren't incorporated into just about every single movement one does:-p
    Now, we are not talking about being merely "involved", are we? We are talking about squats and deadlifts being ENOUGH TO WORK THE ABS. Which, by your own defintion, include the rectus abdominis, the original point of the post (via crunches). If it tickles your prostate for me to say "yes, you are right, they are technically "involved" in many activities," then there you go. No ****. But then, so are the lats. However, since we are REALLY talking about TRAINING THEM COMPLETELY I don't think that is REALLY the context, is it?

    You also said this:

    Originally Posted by xxoddxx View Post
    Arnold himself admitted that when he was in his prime, he had very little access to the modern knowledge of bodybuilding we have today. The man would train two times a day, 3 hours each, overtraining. I really don't put much stock on his opinions concerning the amount to work out, although I trust his teachings on form.

    I said he never said that, in that context. Where is the quote?
    CSCS, ACSM cPT.
    Reply With Quote

  30. #30
    Free teh ranters nitrored's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2005
    Age: 33
    Stats: 193 lbs
    Posts: 6,912
    BodyPoints: 19761
    Rep Power: 2240
    nitrored has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) nitrored has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) nitrored has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) nitrored has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) nitrored has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) nitrored has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) nitrored has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) nitrored has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) nitrored has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) nitrored has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000) nitrored has reached the pinnacle! Best possible rank! (+1000000)
    Visit nitrored's BodySpace
    nitrored is offline

    Talking

    Seriously guys... he's 126lbs... I think he knows a thing or two about building mass!!!
    Reply With Quote

Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Home Store Products Careers Help Contact Us Terms of Use Checkout