Any track sprinters here?

[Mike1600]

Hey guys,

Figure since Track season has officially started up, it'd be some fun to see who all competes in the sport here.

Here are my times throughout the years (I've had them all pencil'd in a little memo pad at the end of every meet).

2006 - 2007*
400m - 58.47 seconds
800m - 2 minutes 39 seconds
1600m - 6 minutes flat
4x400m split - 56.82 seconds flat

*I was experimenting this year, found that my strong area was in sprints

2007 - 2008
100m - 11.6 seconds
200m - 24 seconds flat
4x100m split - 10.9 seconds
4x200m split - 23.8 seconds

2008 - 2009
100m - 11.4 seconds
200m - Still can't break 24 flat, working on it
Haven't timed for relays yet.

I have also competed at state level, winning both 100m and 200m races.
I'm training to compete at national level this year, hopefully Junior Olympics.
I will begin to keep a log, possibly post it all when I get the chance.
I train year round for this too.

If there are any other fellow sprinters out there, care to offer up some advice and or workouts to help?
I'll be posting my workout soon.

[squat4speed]

Look forward to seeing your workouts.
How are your speed workouts designed? And strength workouts and current lifting PBs?

BTW, im a sprinter, check out my journal if you want.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post259421381

[rock201]

Only 14? Nice.

[MDmonarch27]

i do track and im decent...

ive always had a question for anyone to answer...
do drinking pre workout drinks like superpump250 before a 100m or 200m race improve your speed?

ive always thought it would but im in 4 events (4x100, 100, 200, 4x400, in that order) each about 45 minutes to an hour seperation so i assumed it wouldnt work effectively..

[unlimitedgain]

I run track I do the 100 meter 200 meter and the 4 by 100 relay. We won tha NCAAs.

[squat4speed]

i do track and im decent...

ive always had a question for anyone to answer...
do drinking pre workout drinks like superpump250 before a 100m or 200m race improve your speed?

ive always thought it would but im in 4 events (4x100, 100, 200, 4x400, in that order) each about 45 minutes to an hour seperation so i assumed it wouldnt work effectively..

try musclespeed..
not sure for superpump250 before races improving speed.. but it'll improve your feeling of well being and give you energy to ensure you're 100%.

[Derk4397]

not sure for superpump250 before races improving speed.. but it'll improve your feeling of well being and give you energy to ensure you're 100%.

I heard it gives you the runs.....and not as in a race....well maybe to the bathroom

[squat4speed]

I heard it gives you the runs.....and not as in a race....well maybe to the bathroom

Ya same, to some people.
for me.. a apple and a banana and im all good with any supplement

[nightrain1914]

I'm a former sprinter and hurdler, and i competed at the collegiate level and ran a number of meets on the pro circuit. I would suggest that you go about track and field the all natural way, ESPECIALLY at "14"! I've seen way to many young athletes destroy the body with supplements or poor eating and training habits. Your body is still developing so much right now, you really don't need supplements. My coach forbid supplements when i was competing in high school, and I ran for one of the best high schools in the country. We competed clean and all natural (no really no supplments of any kind). Focus more on diet and training and you will see improvements all the time.

[nightrain1914]

I'm a former sprinter and hurdler, and i competed at the collegiate level and ran a number of meets on the pro circuit. I would suggest that you go about track and field the all natural way, ESPECIALLY at "14"! I've seen way to many young athletes destroy the body with supplements or poor eating and training habits. Your body is still developing so much right now, you really don't need supplements. My coach forbid supplements when i was competing in high school, and I ran for one of the best high schools in the country. We competed clean and all natural (no really no supplments of any kind). Focus more on diet and training and you will see improvements all the time.
College: University of Kansas
High School: Long Beach Poly HS Long Beach, CA (you better ask somebody!)

[squat4speed]

I'm a former sprinter and hurdler, and i competed at the collegiate level and ran a number of meets on the pro circuit. I would suggest that you go about track and field the all natural way, ESPECIALLY at "14"! I've seen way to many young athletes destroy the body with supplements or poor eating and training habits. Your body is still developing so much right now, you really don't need supplements. My coach forbid supplements when i was competing in high school, and I ran for one of the best high schools in the country. We competed clean and all natural (no really no supplments of any kind). Focus more on diet and training and you will see improvements all the time.

I like your post except one part.. about supplements...

Supplements that are bought in stores have no problem what soever simply because they are legal, at this time, practically every legal supplement gien the right person is safe. Now a guy at 14.. protein.. multi vitamin.. creatine.. I see no problems what so ever..
Yes bad training destroys your body (absolutely true), bad diet over time acts negatively (takes a while), supplements dont have any negative effectws but positive effects only. BTW, supplements BARELY help you anyway... its almost entirely talent/training and then diet.

[MDmonarch27]

High School: Long Beach Poly HS Long Beach, CA (you better ask somebody!)

i love the jackrabbits! and was pretty pissed they lost to Grant in the state champ game (football)
i go to Mater Dei High School (Santa Ana, CA)

but anyways i usually eat grapes, almonds, and apples throughout the meet

[maverick000]

why would you love long beach poly if you go to mater dei?

[nightrain1914]

I like your post except one part.. about supplements...

Supplements that are bought in stores have no problem what soever simply because they are legal, at this time, practically every legal supplement gien the right person is safe. Now a guy at 14.. protein.. multi vitamin.. creatine.. I see no problems what so ever..
Yes bad training destroys your body (absolutely true), bad diet over time acts negatively (takes a while), supplements dont have any negative effectws but positive effects only. BTW, supplements BARELY help you anyway... its almost entirely talent/training and then diet.

Squat4speed here is proof that products bought online or in stores are not all safe:
-In 2001, the IOC conducted a study of 634 non-hormonal supplements from around the world
-Products included – vitamins, minerals, protein powders, creatine, herbal extracts, etc.
-Looked at 13 nations and 215 different companies
Supplements were tested in IOC accredited lab
-Only looked for anabolic steroids

Country, Number of products tested, Number of products positive,percentage of positives

Netherlands: 31, 8, 25.8 %
Austria: 22, 5, 22.7 %
UK: 37, 7, 18.9 %
USA: 240, 45, 18.8 %
Italy: 35,5,14.3 %
Spain: 29, 4, 13.8 %
Germany: 129, 15, 11.6 %
Belgium: 30, 2, 6.7 %
France: 30, 2, 6.7 %
Norway: 30, 1, 3.3 %
Switzerland: 13, -, -
Sweden: 6, -, -
Hungary: 2, -, -
Total: 634, 94, 14.8 %


-In 2007, HFL a British laboratory that does sport drug surveillance, conducted a study of dietary supplements sold in the USA
-Study was overseen by Informed Choice
-Of the 52 products analyzed, 25% contained traces of anabolic steroids and 11.5% contained banned stimulants
-Report concluded: “It is clear that not all supplement manufacturers follow good manufacturing practices and the necessary control are not always implemented to ensure the safety of athletes and the general public who use supplement products.”
-Bottom line: Nothing has changed!

I work with high school, collegiate, and professionals and have seen the damage that "legal"supplements can do. They have been ruining peoples lives for years.

If you want to see the research please contact me epatterson@drugfreesport.com, questions on what products have already been proven problematic, please contact me.

[nightrain1914]

why would you love long beach poly if you go to mater dei?

We used and abused M.D. on a regualr when I played, they hated us.

[nightrain1914]

i love the jackrabbits! and was pretty pissed they lost to Grant in the state champ game (football)
i go to Mater Dei High School (Santa Ana, CA)

but anyways i usually eat grapes, almonds, and apples throughout the meet

Good alternatives to supplements, you get more when eat actual food. You just can't get the same phytonutrients the body needs through supplements.

[nightrain1914]

I like your post except one part.. about supplements...

Supplements that are bought in stores have no problem what soever simply because they are legal, at this time, practically every legal supplement gien the right person is safe. Now a guy at 14.. protein.. multi vitamin.. creatine.. I see no problems what so ever..
Yes bad training destroys your body (absolutely true), bad diet over time acts negatively (takes a while), supplements dont have any negative effectws but positive effects only. BTW, supplements BARELY help you anyway... its almost entirely talent/training and then diet.

A few more things...

A bad diet can cause problems sooner than you think, not properly hydrating or rehydrating for example can cause cramping, muscle pulls,imbalances in the body, just to name a few.

Not eating the proper combo of Carbs, fat, protein can cause the body to compensate. You can see this in your workouts when you are not puting enough cabs into the body before workouts. You may see times stay the same, or maybe you can't get through workouts like you used to, or you will start to see your self getting tired towards the end of the day.

Talent goes a long way but with a good diet your training will fail. The body needs fuel to perform. So if supplements don't help, why would you waist your time and money on them?

[PopeGregorius]

Send a message to http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/mr_traps/ , he just raced against Asafa Powell.

[x2thez53913]

when i was same age i wouldve shattered you in the 100 and under. but all of your other numbers are great, keep improving like you are and you will be great. i let my grades slip and began bodybuilding and got to heavy to sprint at max capacity. i still have a 40 in about 4.8s..
really focus on starting movements and practice form.

[Zoom24]

Last spring as a junior (first season)

400m- 53.3
Long jump- 18-4.5
200m split- 23.8
400m relay split- 53.0
My 4x4 relay's best time was 3:27.xx

Last winter as a senior

Long jump- 18'8''
300m- 41.5 (150m track)
600m- 1:33.5 (150m track)
400m relay split- 52.2
My 4x4 relay's best time was 3:29.xx

This spring I'm looking to get 50.xx 400m and 20+ long jump

[MDmonarch27]

why would you love long beach poly if you go to mater dei?

now we are tight
im mainly talking about football though
not sure about the other sports...

[itsmike428]

I'm a former sprinter and hurdler, and i competed at the collegiate level and ran a number of meets on the pro circuit. I would suggest that you go about track and field the all natural way, ESPECIALLY at "14"! I've seen way to many young athletes destroy the body with supplements or poor eating and training habits. Your body is still developing so much right now, you really don't need supplements. My coach forbid supplements when i was competing in high school, and I ran for one of the best high schools in the country. We competed clean and all natural (no really no supplments of any kind). Focus more on diet and training and you will see improvements all the time.
College: University of Kansas
High School: Long Beach Poly HS Long Beach, CA (you better ask somebody!)

What's the deal with Long Beach Poly HS? They are just nasty, not just in track, but in every other sport it seems. They have sent the most players to the NFL out of high schools, they're track and field program is just sick, and they are the the "sports school of the century." Haha, wanna fill me in as to why they are so legit?

[squat4speed]

Squat4speed here is proof that products bought online or in stores are not all safe:
-In 2001, the IOC conducted a study of 634 non-hormonal supplements from around the world
-Products included ? vitamins, minerals, protein powders, creatine, herbal extracts, etc.
-Looked at 13 nations and 215 different companies
Supplements were tested in IOC accredited lab
-Only looked for anabolic steroids

Country, Number of products tested, Number of products positive,percentage of positives

Netherlands: 31, 8, 25.8 %
Austria: 22, 5, 22.7 %
UK: 37, 7, 18.9 %
USA: 240, 45, 18.8 %
Italy: 35,5,14.3 %
Spain: 29, 4, 13.8 %
Germany: 129, 15, 11.6 %
Belgium: 30, 2, 6.7 %
France: 30, 2, 6.7 %
Norway: 30, 1, 3.3 %
Switzerland: 13, -, -
Sweden: 6, -, -
Hungary: 2, -, -
Total: 634, 94, 14.8 %


-In 2007, HFL a British laboratory that does sport drug surveillance, conducted a study of dietary supplements sold in the USA
-Study was overseen by Informed Choice
-Of the 52 products analyzed, 25% contained traces of anabolic steroids and 11.5% contained banned stimulants
-Report concluded: ?It is clear that not all supplement manufacturers follow good manufacturing practices and the necessary control are not always implemented to ensure the safety of athletes and the general public who use supplement products.?
-Bottom line: Nothing has changed!

I work with high school, collegiate, and professionals and have seen the damage that "legal"supplements can do. They have been ruining peoples lives for years.

If you want to see the research please contact me epatterson@drugfreesport.com, questions on what products have already been proven problematic, please contact me.

I got some simple logic for you...
If something is unsafe.. being hormonal related in some way.. that would mean it should give me some nice benefits too as well correct? So I should see some gains as well...
Well... supplements on the whole have never given me.. nor others miracle gains, maybe just a little boost by adding couple of things.. like beta alanine + creatine, and protein/BCAAs to reduce soreness, etc. All my gains have come from hard work, and without supplements... just a little harder to do the same workouts cause i do track + lifting, makes it too hard.

If its not giving big gains.. you aint getting any side effects.

[AmericanPhysco]

First season as a senior.

100m dash 10.98 only event I've run so far.

[TheHitStick]

i do track and im decent...

ive always had a question for anyone to answer...
do drinking pre workout drinks like superpump250 before a 100m or 200m race improve your speed?

ive always thought it would but im in 4 events (4x100, 100, 200, 4x400, in that order) each about 45 minutes to an hour seperation so i assumed it wouldnt work effectively..

you get tired from running. yeah the superpump and crap will give you energy, but you'll die after a few races probably because you'll be so dehydrated.

i would defiantly not suggest taking creatine before practices and races. only the weight room.

[mr_traps]

Sprinter here...

As my sig suggests, my 100m pb is 10.76, set when I was 17 (I only just turned 18)...

And as Greg said, I did race Asafa Powell a few weeks ago... (links to results in my sig, my team is 'NSW A', I'm the guy in the blue singlet and white pants)

Feel free to PM me with any questions regarding diet / training.


To address questions in this thread:

- No need for supplements such as creatine... It'll just add extra water weight that you could do without having.

- Pre-workouts are pretty useless too... I've never taken them before races, and neither have any of my track friends...

I think a major downfall of those supplements is that they're usually very high in caffeine and sugar content, so you'll crash not long after your race... If you have semifinals / finals / another event sometime that day, you're going to be royally screwed for it.

[nightrain1914]

I got some simple logic for you...
If something is unsafe.. being hormonal related in some way.. that would mean it should give me some nice benefits too as well correct? So I should see some gains as well...
Well... supplements on the whole have never given me.. nor others miracle gains, maybe just a little boost by adding couple of things.. like beta alanine + creatine, and protein/BCAAs to reduce soreness, etc. All my gains have come from hard work, and without supplements... just a little harder to do the same workouts cause i do track + lifting, makes it too hard.

If its not giving big gains.. you aint getting any side effects.

Simple logic, LOL!!! At 16...Well we will just have to agree to disagree on this. I work with some of the worlds best scientist in this field so i think that gives me some backing a :-). Not all supps are contaminated, but not all supps contain what they say. So it is not all about a product containing a bad substance, it could contain nothing at all. Hard work is what gives you the size you are looking for and helps to acheive those goals. One thing you said was if you are not seeing big gains you are not seeing side effects...Sorry but this is so untrue. I've seen people that had to have fingers, toes, etc cut off because their multi-vitamin, vitamin B or other vitamins contained higer amounts than stated on the label. so I'm not just talking about performance enhancing substances, but also simple "vitamins and minerals"

I just want to help inform people and see people reach goals, I'm not here to put anyone down. So i hope you reach all your goals safely.

[nightrain1914]

Sprinter here...

As my sig suggests, my 100m pb is 10.76, set when I was 17 (I only just turned 18)...

And as Greg said, I did race Asafa Powell a few weeks ago... (links to results in my sig, my team is 'NSW A', I'm the guy in the blue singlet and white pants)

Feel free to PM me with any questions regarding diet / training.


To address questions in this thread:

- No need for supplements such as creatine... It'll just add extra water weight that you could do without having.

- Pre-workouts are pretty useless too... I've never taken them before races, and neither have any of my track friends...

I think a major downfall of those supplements is that they're usually very high in caffeine and sugar content, so you'll crash not long after your race... If you have semifinals / finals / another event sometime that day, you're going to be royally screwed for it.

Good post and thanks for sharing some good knowledge with other sprinters.

I've never raced against Asafa Powell, but I ran with and against some greats. Larry Wade, Terrance Trammell, Allen Johnson, Dan Obrian, Joey Woody, Aubrey Herring, just to name a few.

11O HH: 13.79
60 HH: 7.71

Never took supps while training, but had great nutrionist that helped us to eat right and great ATC to keep us healthy and dedication to hydrate, stretch, and sleep to help the body recover. I played football and ran track, so i can understand how people think you have to supplement, but you don't unless suggested by your nutrionist.

[nightrain1914]

What's the deal with Long Beach Poly HS? They are just nasty, not just in track, but in every other sport it seems. They have sent the most players to the NFL out of high schools, they're track and field program is just sick, and they are the the "sports school of the century." Haha, wanna fill me in as to why they are so legit?

LMOL! The best of the best want to go to Long Beach Poly! We have great coaches that really care about the young athletes and really want to help them become the best they can. The workouts in football and track are world class (no seriously), professionals come back over the summer or off season to train with one of the best track coaches in the country (Don Norford). So during the summer workouts the kids are getting pointers from some of the best athletes in the world. Just imagine, being a freshman, doing one-on-one drills with a starting WR or DB in the NFL...crazy right! Track, basketball, volleyball, XC you name it, Poly excels because the tradition must be upheld. Kids want to get out of the neighborhood because it is not that great and want to make a better living for their families. So they work harder than lets say a kid in the burbs because they have too...The kids in the burbs want to play with the best so they come to Poly and learn that they have to really work to even get on the sideline, so practice at Poly is great because of this. Why is Poly so good??? Way to many reasons :-)

[Zoom24]

Wow there are some great sprinters in this thread