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    Originally Posted by the_guvna View Post
    lol that rant was brilliant, but he has a point, the human race is a parasite, a virus on earth
    nuke china and india and steal their landz.
    I want to touch the butt.
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    Originally Posted by the_guvna View Post
    lol that rant was brilliant, but he has a point, the human race is a parasite, a virus on earth
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    We have the technology to easily meet our energy needs based off of windpower alone. But the oil companies would never let that happen because there is too much money to be made off of fossil fuels. Not only that, but it doesnt matter if we stop fossil fuel production this moment. C02 and and NO2 hang around in the atmosphere for about a hundred years. And we are almost at 100 ppm more CO2 than there has been in the past 500,000 years. And we have done this to our world in less than 150 years. Basically, our children are fuked
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    i once knocked a polar bear the fuk out for looking at me wrong.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    I hate these cropped pictures as if the polar bears are trapped on one tiny island of ice sourrounded by humdreds of miles of ocean. I bet 5' to the left of the pic is land.

    and contrary to popular belief, those bears are doing just fine.

    I thought these Al Gore scare tactics would be over by now.
    It astounds me that people out there still believe global warming is not SCIENTIFIC FACT.

    Climate change is not just a "theory", it will have serious effects that will become present in the next 10-20 years.
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    survival of the fittest baby. them polar bears better evolve into tropical bears or sum **** like that.
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    Originally Posted by canuckathlete View Post
    Well its march 19 and its snowing where i live... i'm not too worried about global warming

    People too often believe that global warming just means that the entire world is going to experience an increase in temperature. In reality, there are going to be insanele unstable temperatures depending on where you live, which includes really cold temperatures and snow in spring.
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    Not so ferocious now are you?
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    We have the technology to easily meet our energy needs based off of windpower alone. But the oil companies would never let that happen because there is too much money to be made off of fossil fuels.
    If, by "not let that happen", you mean significantly undercut the cost of wind power, then yes, in which case it is the consumer not letting that happen, and all the better since wind power is extremely inefficient.
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    but there is no such thing as global warming....right...?
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    Originally Posted by G T View Post
    If, by "not let that happen", you mean significantly undercut the cost of wind power, then yes, in which case it is the consumer not letting that happen, and all the better since wind power is extremely inefficient.
    I was using an extreme example, but even so, it only costs about twice as much to produce a megawatt hour of wind energy as it does to produce one from coal, the cheapest and most abundant fossil fuel. Plus, the external costs on the environment of producing electricity with coal far outweigh the difference between those numbers. Theres tons of research on this. It's jsut that no one is willing to pay for this now. But it's ok the next few generations will more than cover these costs im sure when the average temperature rises 5 degrees Celsius by 2100
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    Originally Posted by Devils View Post
    It astounds me that people out there still believe global warming is not SCIENTIFIC FACT.

    Climate change is not just a "theory", it will have serious effects that will become present in the next 10-20 years.
    Maybe you should't blindly follow fads.

    The CEO of the weather channel denies that we are going through a "global warming."

    Heck, you east coasters should have figured that out after that hellish blizzard that swooped through a couple months ago.

    And all the the ski resorts in Northern California have had just as much natural snow as they've always had.
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    Originally Posted by gouscfootball View Post
    I was using an extreme example, but even so, it only costs about twice as much to produce a megawatt hour of wind energy as it does to produce one from coal, the cheapest and most abundant fossil fuel. Plus, the external costs on the environment of producing electricity with coal far outweigh the difference between those numbers. Theres tons of research on this. It's jsut that no one is willing to pay for this now. But it's ok the next few generations will more than cover these costs im sure when the average temperature rises 5 degrees Celsius by 2100
    Why not use nuclear?
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    Originally Posted by diffusion View Post
    I think it's tragic, but, extinction is just one of those unfortunate processes of evolution. Most people are familiar with the fact that 99% of all species to have ever lived are now extinct. If the polar bears' extinction was a direct result of human activity (as in the instance of massive extinctions due to deforestation), then yes, I would be more concerned. But I don't think it is. The Earth's climate has always had periods of warming and cooling, and will continue to do so. Those species which fail to adapt won't be around for very long.



    This. It scares me how little attention is being paid to this issue:

    according to this chart, the population levels out at around 2050... which means something is going to put a stop to the growth?

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    when it comes down to it, it is sort of a survival of the fittest situation. The climate is changing and these bears aren't adapting, therefore they are not "fit" to survive. On the other hand, we are the cause of this climate change so basically we are killing them for no reason, which in the darwin sense increases our chances of survival, but in reality none of us are ever threatened by polar bears in the first place
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    Originally Posted by G T View Post
    Why not use nuclear?
    potential for nuclear meltdown is pretty high (~1 accident/10 years over all power plants is the accepted figure) if you dont get the cooling rods inserted properly into the reactor, *boom*. However, if someone discovers how to replicate fusion, then we are set forever. Solar power is getting pretty efficient now as well, with 40% efficiency. But a lot of that is lost in the process of gathering the energy as well. So, I dunno im not an engineer but It will probably take until all the oil reserves on earth are depleted for anything to get done

    and to ^^, growth is already slowing down. China and India accounted for most of it across the past few decades, and btw go look at a carrying capacity curve. That looks exactly like a standard one, except that we might have already overshot carrying capacity
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    You can actually drastically reduce your output of carbon dioxide with a few simple tweaks of your lifestyle that wont have much of an impact on your day to day life. Recycling things, energy efficient appliances/lightbulbs, unplugging vampire appliances, insulating your home more. This will also save you thousands of dollars in the long term
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    Polar bears are but ****bears are not...
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    wtf is the story behind this pic?
    ive been a bad bear
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    ptfff let them die, useless creatures, only good for coke ads
    realy? what exactly are we doing for this planet? If you look at the earth from an outside perspective humans are by far the worst thing for the planet.
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    wow strong replies *******s, its because a-holes like you beautiful creatures die every day, fu cking clueless pieces of ****
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    realy? what exactly are we doing for this planet? If you look at the earth from an outside perspective humans are by far the worst thing for the planet.
    But the planet is for humans. There aren't any other animals sophisticated enough to appreciate or even care what happens to this planet.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Maybe you should't blindly follow fads.

    The CEO of the weather channel denies that we are going through a "global warming."

    Heck, you east coasters should have figured that out after that hellish blizzard that swooped through a couple months ago.

    And all the the ski resorts in Northern California have had just as much natural snow as they've always had.
    Vast majority of scientific community including hundreds of multi-national scientific governing bodies/organizations > CEO of weather channel. Oh and one snow storm in the dead of winter doesnt prove anything. It's about trends and patterns.

    Originally Posted by hitapig View Post
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    You're 17
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    Originally Posted by diffusion View Post

    believe me when i say people are paying attention to it.

    just not the right people.
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    Originally Posted by gouscfootball View Post
    We have the technology to easily meet our energy needs based off of windpower alone. But the oil companies would never let that happen because there is too much money to be made off of fossil fuels. Not only that, but it doesnt matter if we stop fossil fuel production this moment. C02 and and NO2 hang around in the atmosphere for about a hundred years. And we are almost at 100 ppm more CO2 than there has been in the past 500,000 years. And we have done this to our world in less than 150 years. Basically, our children are fuked
    This is true.

    Solar power, tidal power, wave power, and best of all, geothermal energy which is infinite in it's nature.


    Not only that, but climate change is inevitable no matter what we do or don't.

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7161

    http://www.physorg.com/news3432.html
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    Originally Posted by paranoidxe View Post
    Agent Smith was correct too.


    wtf?
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    How the hell is having to swim a bit more killing them.
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