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Old 03-19-2009, 03:52 AM   #1
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Self Confident VS Cocky/Arrogant

Whats the difference?

Lately i've been feeling more self confident and all, but some of my friends are telling me i' becoming cockier, so yea

Whats the difference?
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:00 AM   #2
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Whats the difference?

Lately i've been feeling more self confident and all, but some of my friends are telling me i' becoming cockier, so yea

Whats the difference?
Your friends may be hatin' on you, especially since I am assuming your situation with the ladies is improving, and they are still goofballs. Just my analysis.

Self-confident is the less douchier of the two.
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:12 AM   #3
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self-confident is passive, cocky and arrogant is active.

basically "in your face" about your self confidence is arrogant and shows the exact opposite...
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:14 AM   #4
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self-confident is passive, cocky and arrogant is active.

basically "in your face" about your self confidence is arrogant and shows the exact opposite...
kinda, i always thought confident is when you're happy with yourself and like who you are,

whereas arrogant is when you think you're better than others and look down upon them. and think people should worship you.

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Old 03-19-2009, 05:28 AM   #5
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your friends are just hatin' even if its not intentional. they are used to you being a certain way, so any adjustments to that norm, is usually magnified through their eyes, versus a random girl that you meet that doesnt know you at all... if that makes sense
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:38 AM   #6
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I'm naturally a really confident guy.

I only get cocky and/or arrogant when someone attacks me.

I'm usually pretty good at hitting people where it hurts the most.
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:56 AM   #7
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From my perspective a lot of cocky people are insecure about themselves.
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Old 03-19-2009, 06:19 AM   #8
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well, for one, i tend to rip on people hard the moment they start **** with me

and more often than not i just do it for kicks as well. ive always had my friends call me a dick most the time, biut that was even when i was really shy and couldnt talk to girls really well and what not

i wouldnt say im insecure much, only thing im not happy with is my height (5'7" at 17 ftw), but since ie started taking working out more seriously, ive been feeling better than ever

but yea, thanks for the replies

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Old 03-19-2009, 08:05 AM   #9
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...appearance as an example

self confident = I look good, but realize how little that really means

cocky = I look good, it will coast me through life
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self confident = I look good, but realize how little that really means

cocky = I look good, it will coast me through life
There are other things besides appearance. I'm not confident because I just look good. In fact, I don't even think I look good at all. I'm pretty average.

I have money and know how to spend it, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs, I don't drink like a ****ing alcoholic, I have good family values, I've never cheated on any girl, etc.

There are far more qualities than just appearance.
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There are other things besides appearance. I'm not confident because I just look good. In fact, I don't even think I look good at all. I'm pretty average.

I have money and know how to spend it, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs, I don't drink like a ****ing alcoholic, I have good family values, I've never cheated on any girl, etc.

There are far more qualities than just appearance.
did you read the title on top of my post that said "...appearance as an example"

as example.

confident = assurance in personal identity, multi-faceted person, humble
cocky = unrealistic in view of themselves, not grounded, arrogant
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:51 AM   #12
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I've noticed when a good looking guy acts cocky..girls like it..they think he got high self esteem..but when a less than average looking guy acts cocky..they think he is an ass hole.....
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I've noticed when a good looking guy acts cocky..girls like it..they think he got high self esteem..but when a less than average looking guy acts cocky..they think he is an ass hole.....
Totally true.

It's because appearance = #1.

It doesn't matter how you act if a bitch is physically attracted to you. She'll want you either way.

Nature's reality is awesome.

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cocky = tells everyone what he is

confident = is what he is and people notice without him saying a word
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whereas arrogant is when you think you're better than others and look down upon them.
I don't necessarily look down on people but I do think I'm better than them.
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I don't necessarily look down on people but I do think I'm better than them.
If you do, then you must have really good qualities that those people don't possess.

Do you drink? Do you smoke? Do you do drugs? Do you have a six-pack? Have you cheated on any girls? Do you have money? Have you graduated college? Do you have a job that pays well?

If you fail any of those, then your claims are failure.
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If you do, then you must have really good qualities that those people don't possess.
Maybe, maybe not. I've never bet against myself and I don't plan on starting now.

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Do you drink? Do you smoke? Do you do drugs? Do you have a six-pack? Have you cheated on any girls? Do you have money? Have you graduated college? Do you have a job that pays well?
LOL how does any of that determine what a person is or isn't? Sometimes bad people do good things, sometimes good people do bad things.

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It doesn't matter how you act if a bitch is physically attracted to you. She'll want you either way.

I have read many times here that you guys see this really hot girl, and you can't wait to get with her...........and then she starts to talk, about herself, about all the rich guys she has dated, about all the fancy resturants she wants to go to......yada yada yada....

Instant turn off....well it kind of works the same way with women and arrogance, I'm not even going to say cocky, because I think that infers the guy is not really taking himself seriously, he is just being entertaining
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kinda, i always thought confident is when you're happy with yourself and like who you are,

whereas arrogant is when you think you're better than others and look down upon them. and think people should worship you.
yup.

There's a huge difference IMO.
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Can't you be both? Just don't be a dick.

Some of the coolest guys I know are Cocky, Arrogant, Self Confident, and the nicest guys I know.
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Old 03-19-2009, 01:39 PM   #22
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your friends are just hatin' even if its not intentional. they are used to you being a certain way, so any adjustments to that norm, is usually magnified through their eyes, versus a random girl that you meet that doesnt know you at all... if that makes sense
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:11 PM   #23
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Cool thread! I've been wondering the difference between confidence and arrogance ever since I started working out. I believe that there is a fine line when it comes to these qualities. I'm pretty sure i come across as both confident and arrogant, but probably more arrogant.
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:29 PM   #24
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Your typical nice ugly to average joe guys are labeled confident
Good looking men are labeled arrogant/cocky
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LOL how does any of that determine what a person is or isn't? Sometimes bad people do good things, sometimes good people do bad things.
LOL @ you thinking you're better than other people when you are just like 98% of them.
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:35 PM   #26
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Just for the record, the loud and obnoxious types who like to go on about what they do and how great they are, etc. are the most insecure people you'll ever meet. As they say, the empty wagon makes the most noise.

Confident is being comfortable in yourself and your abilities enough to never have to say anything about it and still be down to earth. Arrogance is simply when you look down on people and think you're better. It's also subjective as a lot of the time people who normally act confident but aren't will label someone who genuinely is confident as arrogant.
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Whats the difference?

Lately i've been feeling more self confident and all, but some of my friends are telling me i' becoming cockier, so yea

Whats the difference?
This is an easy question to answer: Self-confidence is a belief in yourself that is warranted/justified. Arrogance/Cockiness is when you have an inflated sense of self-worth. Not much more to it than that.
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LOL @ you thinking you're better than other people when you are just like 98% of them.
LOL at you having no self confidence. Not my problem buddy.

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