One thing no one ever seems to touch on.

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 04:32 PM

All this talk of roids causing major problems in kids right, so what is it exactly that means the pros get away with it?

Why isnt Ronnie Colemans endocrine system fuked?

And why hasnt Try Brewer had a heart attack yet?

Didnt Arnold do roids as a teen?

Why isnt he dead yet?

Its almost as if you can do a cycle at 16, provided you keep on doing them to keep yourself moving, and then you'll be fine when your 40 we'll just get you some medical treatment or something.

2Massive · 03-18-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Giftee

All this talk of roids causing major problems in kids right, so what is it exactly that means the pros get away with it?

Why isnt Ronnie Colemans endocrine system fuked?

And why hasnt Try Brewer had a heart attack yet?

Didnt Arnold do roids as a teen?

Why isnt he dead yet?

Its almost as if you can do a cycle at 16, provided you keep on doing them to keep yourself moving, and then you'll be fine when your 40 we'll just get you some medical treatment or something.

Now, you're opening your eyes... But still, roids are VERY bad for a developing body.

AusterMule · 03-18-2009, 04:37 PM

In bigger stronger faster it said only 3 people die from anabolic steroids a year

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Massive

Now, you're opening your eyes... But still, roids are VERY bad for a developing body.

yah

2Massive · 03-18-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by whitesox0brad11

In bigger stronger faster it said only 3 people die from anabolic steroids a year

mhm. You guys just realizing now what's going on?

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by whitesox0brad11

In bigger stronger faster it said only 3 people die from anabolic steroids a year

I'm not interested in that crap we know all the death related stuff is bull****.

Speaking of Brewer that kid was probably juicing at 15.

B-ryminD09 · 03-18-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by whitesox0brad11

In bigger stronger faster it said only 3 people die from anabolic steroids a year

i thought he said only 3 people had ever died from roids? idk though

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Massive

mhm. You guys just realizing now what's going on?

Yeah, it also says your more likely to get ill from Vit C poisoning then you are roids. But all thats irrelevant.

I'm talking about juice in teens.

AirChair · 03-18-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by whitesox0brad11

In bigger stronger faster it said only 3 people die from anabolic steroids a year

Pretty sure that wasn't deaths. Hospital admittances, if I recall.

user654415165 · 03-18-2009, 04:41 PM

That doesn't mean its not bad for you.

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by B-ryminD09

i thought he said only 3 people had ever died from roids? idk though

Even those three are debatable, they cant be directly related to juice.

I think 2 were suicides supposedly brought on by "roid depression" and one was something heart related.

2Massive · 03-18-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Giftee

Yeah, it also says your more likely to get ill from Vit C poisoning then you are roids. But all thats irrelevant.

I'm talking about juice in teens.

There's not much point in talking about that, seeing as how it's proven to be harmful. However, this thread should probably be in the AAS section.

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 04:43 PM

None of you are answering the questions.

If it ****s up your endocrine system, then why isnt Big Ronnie Colemans obliterated?

BaGeL23 · 03-18-2009, 04:44 PM

Arnold never should have done steroids IMO, that was actually a pretty big risk considering he had prexisting heart problems.

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Massive

There's not much point in talking about that, seeing as how it's proven to be harmful. However, this thread should probably be in the AAS section.

I've tried to post it before, all you get is "your 19 get out".

Its a serious question and something I've always wondered about, I'm not trying to start any trouble.

2Massive · 03-18-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Giftee

None of you are answering the questions.

If it ****s up your endocrine system, then why isnt Big Ronnie Colemans obliterated?

For one reason, he is prescribed preventive medication, there was a video on youtube, which details most of his supplements. One of his supplements is for protecting the liver. There's a few other medications he takes not detailed in there that protect other organs and organ systems. Also, the pros are aware of correct AAS usage.

user654415165 · 03-18-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Giftee

None of you are answering the questions.

If it ****s up your endocrine system, then why isnt Big Ronnie Colemans obliterated?

Because he keeps taking more AAS.

baddog671 · 03-18-2009, 04:45 PM

I think the reason it "never seems to be touched on" is becuase everytime someone tries to make an informative thread, mods lock it down...

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by regerla

Because he keeps taking more AAS.

This is exactly what I think, its almost as if you run a cycle as a teen but then stop thats when your fuked.

But if you carry on your fine?

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Massive

For one reason, he is prescribed preventive medication, there was a video on youtube, which details most of his supplements. One of his supplements is for protecting the liver. There's a few other medications he takes not detailed in there that protect other organs and organ systems. Also, the pros are aware of correct AAS usage.

Good explanation man.

2Massive · 03-18-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Giftee

This is exactly what I think, its almost as if you run a cycle as a teen but then stop thats when your fuked.

But if you carry on your fine?

I think that is the purpose of HRT?

KJR246 · 03-18-2009, 04:59 PM

AAS and the like are highly misjudged by the general public due to what they are earfed by the media, etc. You have to actually learn about them to realize the truth.

I wouldn't post this here though OP.

765 · 03-18-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Giftee

All this talk of roids causing major problems in kids right, so what is it exactly that means the pros get away with it?

Why isnt Ronnie Colemans endocrine system fuked?

And why hasnt Try Brewer had a heart attack yet?

Didnt Arnold do roids as a teen?

Why isnt he dead yet?

Its almost as if you can do a cycle at 16, provided you keep on doing them to keep yourself moving, and then you'll be fine when your 40 we'll just get you some medical treatment or something.

-How do you know they arent?

-Heart attacks aren't a side affect of steroids, the risk can be increased greatly but it is accompanied by other problems

-Most likely

-Back then, pros didn't use as much as they do nowadays

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 765

-How do you know they arent?

-Heart attacks aren't a side affect of steroids, the risk can be increased greatly but it is accompanied by other problems

-Most likely

-Back then, pros didn't use as much as they do nowadays

You've completely misunderstood my post.

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Massive

I think that is the purpose of HRT?

The general consensus among the AAS is that retired Pros having to run HRT is a complete misconception.

It is widely documented that the majority of Pros can simply fade off the juice and lead a healthy life.

If you do need HRT as a retired pro when exactly do they inform you of this.

Did someone tell Ronnie in the run up to his third Olympia "You've gone pretty fukin hard in the offseason son, I'm afraid it'll be HRT once you jit 40".

765 · 03-18-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Giftee

You've completely misunderstood my post.

the reason pros get away with it is because they already devoted their life to it

why is some teenage kid that eats pizza every day and goes to the gym twice a week going to influence that?

not saying you are one, just a statement

765 · 03-18-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Giftee

The general consensus among the AAS is that retired Pros having to run HRT is a complete misconception.

It is widely documented that the majority of Pros can simply fade off the juice and lead a healthy life.

If you do need HRT as a retired pro when exactly do they inform you of this.

Did someone tell Ronnie in the run up to his third Olympia "You've gone pretty fukin hard in the offseason son, I'm afraid it'll be HRT once you jit 40".

dont see why you need hrt unless you are having problems or just want to lift without heavy usage again

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 765

the reason pros get away with it is because they already devoted their life to it

why is some teenage kid that eats pizza every day and goes to the gym twice a week going to influence that?

not saying you are one, just a statement

So providing you are completely devoted to something, it can cause no risks to your health.

Tell that to women.

Giftee · 03-18-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 765

dont see why you need hrt unless you are having problems or just want to lift without heavy usage again

Agreed.

elporthole · 03-18-2009, 05:25 PM

a friend of mine took American Cellular Labs Tren at 16-17 and reported hardly any sides except acne and temporary testicle shrinkage. He is now fine with normal balls and is making gains, however he did loose almost everything he gained once he got off it. But goes to show, alot of this **** is just ****. btw i would never touch a ph..and dont condone it