I have a 10 year-old son who wants to play football this fall but he is way too light. He is avg height but only weighs 67 lbs. His Doc says he should be between 80-90lbs.
He can barely finish a 4oz hamburger and doesn't like pasta or oatmeal...
Breakfast is a bowl of cereal, two eggs or pancakes and potatoes.
Lunch at school is PBJ, milk, banana - sometimes canned chicken or tuna
After school BSN TrueMass shake with whole milk and cookie,or cake
Dinner is 4oz serving protein, carb rice or potatoes and broccoli, asparagus
Before bed is ice cream or a shake
He burns a ton of calories at school and at little league baseball. Damn ecto genes!! I just started him on some light bis/tris and legs (squats/ dead lifts) work.
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03-17-2009, 08:39 PM #1
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My 10 yr old wants/needs to gain weight
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03-17-2009, 08:50 PM #2
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supps
don't they have supplements in a bottle....i can't think of the .....wait yes i can ....like ensure...but not for old folks?
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03-17-2009, 09:02 PM #3
Well I don't know what to tell ya.......... my son is 17 & 6' tall and as thin as a rail. Try as I might I can't get him interested in lifting and even though he eats he doesn't put on any weight.
He takes after my Grandpa who was about 6'4" and thin as a rail too.Was friends with Methuselah
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03-17-2009, 09:28 PM #4
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I hear that.... I don't want to be like Todd Marinovich dad and make my kid nuts about eating and sports. He is athletic just too damn thin to play football. I was thinking about getting one of those calf crates they use for Veal and make him not move j/k lol He wants to gain weight but needs some help that father time will have to give I guess...
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03-17-2009, 09:44 PM #5
It is tough to gain weight if you are a kid with a lightning fast metabolism and are naturally thin. I remember when I was about 12 years old, I was 5'3" and weighed 80 pounds. My mother insisted I was too skinny and crammed all sorts of high calorie foods down my throat. She even "forced" me to drink a milk shake every day (whole milk, ice cream, and a banana). My fat little brother was soooo jealous . It was a valiant attempt, but I didn't really gain any weight. It wasn't until I was about 14-15 when I started filling out a little bit. So, you might be right....he may have to wait until he gets a little bit older before he starts to un-skinnify.
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03-17-2009, 10:20 PM #6
I was pretty skinny when I was a kid and pretty much just wanted to eat applesauce. That's bad! My parents were worried about me, as I was somewhat underweight. I walked to school and ran around and did the things that kids did during the 1970s. No video games, and I wasn't really into TV, despite the Fonz.
When I hit puberty, I started to really like bike riding. The exercise increased my appetite for meat and, well, potato chips. I put on weight pretty quickly, but it all went to the butt and quads because I wasn't working my upper body. I didn't know what was going on with puberty of course, except that I was a zit-ridden little 7th grader! But, I was normal weight by then....
I wasn't into ~any~ team sports as a kid. But I loved my bike, and had always walked to school. I didn't own a car until I was 20 years old.
All I can suggest is try to think up different ways to prepare meat so that it's tasty for him. Try different spices and different veggies on the side. Try making Chinese food, then make some chili, then the next night, make tacos etc. etc.
Ten is still pretty young for touch football. Is this flag football?investigating mechanics of pulleys, levers, and mass.
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03-17-2009, 10:21 PM #7
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He does well in school (has good grades) and a nice temperment. Like most any parent, I want him to be happy and successful. I feel bad not being able to help him bulk up a bit but atleast I can provide him some basics for lifting for right now. I figure his appetite might increase after working out for a while..
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03-18-2009, 06:39 AM #8
Let him be. My oldest grandson was the same. A little ecto. I was 6'1" in my Sophmore high school year. He stopped at 5'7" 135 soaking wet. This May he starts with the Beverly Hills agency that reps half of the top NBA players.
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03-18-2009, 07:07 AM #9
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At ten I'm not sure weight lifting is the best route yet. He still has a lot of bone growth to go through before he bigins to overload that immature frame. Bodyweight exercises for the little ones are best.
For adding weight the only thing is more calories. Find ways to make what he will eat more calorie dense.
Other than that you could get him a PS3 he'll be fat in no time.[]---[] Equipment Crew Member No. 11
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03-18-2009, 08:43 AM #10
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I somewhat agree Baldie, but when my son asks me for help so he can play football, I want to help him out.
lol about the PS3!! I agree. I coach Little League here in No. Ca. and we have (3) eleven yr-old boys on our team who have never played baseball before??? except for nintendo baseball that is..
I've read conflicting articles regarding what affects the growth plate(s) in children. My son's Pediatrician and Orthopedic both confirmed for me what I had been subscribing to lately. Strict form, light-medium weight and there is no issue. He broke his wrist skateboarding and I asked the Ortho about the growth plate issue. Apparently the injury has to be pretty severe to stunt the bone growth from what he showed me. Could explain why all those Nebraska, Iowa kids are monsters. Doing heavy chores as a kid can't be any worse then a few curls and squats lolBlack Tank Crew
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03-18-2009, 08:58 AM #12
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My daughter is from China, and is 10 years and 4 months old. 4'9", 88 lbs of pure muscle from swimming.
How she got this way I have no clue, because she subsists on an occasional cheeseburger and fries and junky carbs like ramen noodles and refuses to eat breakfast. If a fruit or vegetable goes in her mouth, it is definitely an accident. She probably eats about 700 calories a day with maybe 25g of protein on average.
She practices with her swim team 3x a week and they swim at least a mile every practice.
She makes me doubt every bro science bodybuilding nutrition myth out there, including the eating lots of protein one.Yorkshireman I: Right! I had to get up in the morning, at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill and pay mill-owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our dad would kill us and dance about on our graves, singing Hallelujah!
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03-18-2009, 09:01 AM #13
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is he not allowed to play at that weight?
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03-18-2009, 09:17 AM #14
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Lol, good genetics I guess.. My boy is avg height and won't spring up until H.S. (like I did). He gets self conscious because he is the lightest kid and even the girls, like your daughter are heavier.
He will be 11 when the season starts and he has to be atleast 80lbs or he cannot play. His coach said he should be around 90 lbs.. He needs to gain 2lbs a month atleast...Black Tank Crew
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03-18-2009, 09:19 AM #15
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03-18-2009, 09:29 AM #16
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You hit the nail on the head!! Slippery Slope, I don't want to force food on him but I would like him to go after his desire to play. Doing the dance of Encouragement without being overbearing is not easy... Dense calories is a good suggestion and I appreciate the advice.. Thanks guys
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03-18-2009, 09:35 AM #17
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Train him to become a receiver.
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03-18-2009, 09:48 AM #19
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Honestly, I don't care what position he plays though, just that he gets the opportunity to play and have fun. If he has talent, it will be evident to his coach and we'll go from there.
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03-18-2009, 10:00 AM #20
Every so often I see a post like this and just cringe. Seriously, I understand the desire to relive our childhood fantasies thru our children .. or whatever ... but you cant rush natural progression in a child when it comes to gainning weight. It'll happen ... maybe sooner ... maybe later ... but I would not reccommend placing an emphasis on weight gain on a child that is so young. If he wants to play, get a waiver from the league so he can play underweight and let him get used to the hitting .. and all of the other great things that comes out of playing football. Trust me ... I had the same issue with my son. He's now almost 18, 6'5", and maybe 170 lbs .... Weight just hasn't come for him yet ... but you know what they say about the "freshman 15" when they go away to college .... GL !!
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03-18-2009, 10:18 AM #21
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Nice post, But You definitely could've left out the first line. You don't know me and If you read my previous posts, you should've realized that I want what's best for my son. I am just as proud of his grades in school as I am of his passion for sports. There is no waiver. He needs to make weight or not play. I love my kid and would like him to be able to pursue His passion. It makes me cringe when someone reads one post in a thread and then makes an assumption based on limited information... Unless you have a PHD in Child Psychology please keep your opinion to yourself... Thanks for the help
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03-18-2009, 10:23 AM #22
At his very young age, I'd tread lightly here. I'd make sure he has the knowledge to make a change if he wants, and then allow him the chance to do it himself. Good luck; he sounds like a great kid.
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03-18-2009, 10:45 AM #23
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i had a question a few months back about my 13 year old wanting to play but being to small i dont know if this will help.
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03-18-2009, 11:14 AM #24
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Thanks Will, He is a very good kid. Kind heart and good natured. We'll give it our best shot! take care!
Lol Clif! I missed the thread... I realize it's a long shot posting on here asking for good advice.. You have your resident douchebags who feel the need to spew garbage rather than help a person out... oh well I guess you get what you pay for.. Great quote from ol Teddy via Buckspin I will be using it often
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03-18-2009, 11:28 AM #25
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[QUOTE=code3gt;303653211]Thanks Will, He is a very good kid. Kind heart and good natured. We'll give it our best shot! take care!
Lol Clif! I missed the thread... I realize it's a long shot posting on here asking for good advice.. You have your resident douchebags who feel the need to spew garbage rather than help a person out... oh well I guess you get what you pay for.. Great quote from ol Teddy via Buckspin I will be using it often
my boy is hanging in there wants to play freshman ball next year...all 85 pounds of him!! if he keeps going to the gym with me all summer i may let him take a run at it!!
Best of luck to you
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03-19-2009, 09:41 AM #26
My post wan not meant to be insulting. I do not have a PHD but I do have 18 years experience raising children. We all want the best for our children. And we can all find things in them to be proud of. But I did't think that was the point of your question. Trust me ... I get caught up in reliving my youth through my children. My daughter plays Nation travel basketball and starts playing in front of college scouts this Summer ... at age 14. I know there were many times I pushed her very hard ... to eat right, to lift, to practice ... and some where inside me it, part of it was for ME .... not HER. We all have it in us as parents whether or not we admit it. If your son wants it ... he'll work for it .... regardless of how you feel about it.
Let me share one more thing which will help you understand why I'm so against pushing weight gain / weight loss with children.(outside of obesity) About a month ago I was on the elliptical. I watched a young girl (about my daughters age) come in, go straight to the scale, weigh herself and then get on an elliptical. The look on her face the entire time was that this was a "chore" ... not something fun to her. She was NOT overweight at all. However, someone had obviously instilled in her that (HER) weight and appearance, as a child, was more important than being a child period. It really broke my heart because that could have been anyones daughter ... even mine.
Again, my original post (and this one too) was/is not intended to be rude or insulting. just my .02 ....
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03-19-2009, 04:16 PM #27
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French fries, ice cream, candy, all the things kids like to eat. Chips.
He can metabolise just about whatever you can throw at him so get to the chip aisle and start to buying."To be a warrior is not a simple matter of wishing to be one. It is rather an endless struggle that will go on to the very last moment of our lives. Nobody is born a warrior, in exactly the same way that nobody is born an average man. We make ourselves into one or the other."-- Carlos Castaneda
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03-19-2009, 05:21 PM #28
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03-20-2009, 01:55 PM #30
Meat, fat, and fruit. That's the only thing that works for my son, a true ectomorph......
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