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What supplement can raise igf in women body?
Any one?
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03-16-2009, 03:58 PM
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by increasing hgh you can increase igf, you can increase hgh by decreasing somatostatin.
you can get some info about some supp's and drugs to decrease somatostatin from here
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=114617421
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03-17-2009, 07:29 PM
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Glutamine taken before bed helps increase GH and IGF-1 while you sleep
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whitegatto1488 : Ill check for it thanks
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03-18-2009, 03:51 AM
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Quote:
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Glutamine taken before bed helps increase GH and IGF-1 while you sleep 
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Ill buy it soon
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03-18-2009, 10:02 AM
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are you wanting to do it naturally? because you can buy igf-r3 long chain from a research chemical web site. for research purposes only. if you want more details pm me
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03-18-2009, 03:29 PM
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are you wanting to do it naturally? because you can buy igf-r3 long chain from a research chemical web site. for research purposes only. if you want more details pm me
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IGF is not wise for women to supplement with directly due to increased cancer risks.
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03-18-2009, 07:21 PM
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IGF is not wise for women to supplement with directly due to increased cancer risks.
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do you have any articles thats peer reviewed that confirms this?
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03-18-2009, 08:43 PM
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do you have any articles thats peer reviewed that confirms this?
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Cahill has the info - I'll get it tomorrow.
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03-18-2009, 11:38 PM
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I've read that It can growth cancer if she/he already has cancer in their body. The cancer will growth faster if they use igf supplement(which is not natural igf ). But I was thinking to buy igf supplement. More info please.. Thanks..
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03-19-2009, 10:32 AM
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that's what I've read. Both IGF and HGH won't cause cancer But will make it grow. but synthetic hormones especially birth control will cause cancer in women or just a hormone imbalance in general. And doctors are pass out birth control like it's candy.
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03-19-2009, 10:36 AM
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if you're looking for supplements
alpha-glyceryl phosphorycholine
Its a very potent precursor to acetylcholine, which is the most abundant neurotransmitter in the body. And because its used so much by your body, especially by hard training athletes, acetylcholine levels are constantly low! Very low.
What does this have to do with growth? Lots, because when your acetylcholine levels are just a little bit low. . .somatostatin levels skyrocket, thus blocking the release of extra growth hormone and thus IGF, and when this happens. . .you can???t grow!
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Substances that enhance the function of acetylcholine:
- Centrophenoxine stimulates the release of Acetylcholine within the Brain.
- Minaprine enhances the function of Acetylcholine within the Brain.
- Nimodipine increases Acetylcholine levels in the Hippocampus of the Brain.
- Piracetam increases the number of Cholinergic Receptors for Acetylcholine within the Brain by up to 30-40%.
- Pramiracetam increases the number of Cholinergic Receptors for Acetylcholine within the Brain.
- Galantamine
- Rivastigmine
- Donepezil
- Huperzine-A increases Acetylcholine levels by decreasing its rate of breakedown.
- Acetyl-L-Carnitine (ALC) facilitates the synthesis and release of Acetylcholine, ALC also mimics the function of Acetylcholine.
- Phosphatidylserine stimulates the release of Acetylcholine within the Cerebral Cortex.
- Dimethylaminoethanol (DMAE) raises Acetylcholine levels within the Brain:
- DMAE inhibits the metabolism of Choline in peripheral tissues (permitting ???free??? Choline to enter the brain and stimulate the production of Acetylcholine).
- Vitamin B1 facilitates the synthesis and presynaptic release of Acetylcholine
- Vitamin B5 is an essential catalyst for the conversion of Choline, Dimethylaminoethanol (DMAE) or Phosphatidylcholine to Acetylcholine.
- Vitamin B12 facilitates the production of Acetylcholine.
- Astragalus enhances the function of Acetylcholine (by inhibiting the Acetylcholinesterase enzyme that degrades Acetylcholine).
- Ginkgo biloba increases the responsiveness to and number of Receptors for Acetylcholine within the brain.
- Ginsengs enhance the body's utilization of Acetylcholine.
- Lecithin enhances the production of Acetylcholine
- In persons afflicted with Alzheimer's Disease supplementary Choline may increase the production of Acetylcholine.
If you are spending alot of money on GH or even if you are takeing AS that incresses gh and IGF. Then these chemicals will help you get the most out of it-
estrogen has a direct effect on acetylcholine thus reducing somatostatin and increasing hgh.
Dell, D. L. and D. E. Stewart. 2000. Menopause and mood Is depression linked with hormone changes? Postgraduate Medicine vol 108, no. 3.
http://discovermagazine.com/1994/apr...inboosting369/
this is why estrogen is good for your cholesterol and insulin sensitivity.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ubmed_RVDocSum
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03-19-2009, 10:37 AM
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some of the stuff in the article isn't supplements so you'll have to just figured out. Also arginine is supposedly known to increase human growth hormone. To be able to increase insulin growth factor you have to increase human growth hormone.
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03-19-2009, 11:42 AM
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I've already buy glutamine now  I read that it can increase gh in human body, I drink 5grams before bed.
So what supplement can increase igf? Is it cjc-1295?
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03-19-2009, 11:46 AM
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Glutamine, arginine, and what else? I just want to know more about igf, GH. Thanks a lot for you article whitegatto. It really helps me much.. Makes me become more knowlegdeable about igf. More information please.. Thanks
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03-19-2009, 12:14 PM
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Take a look at this.. A product names HEXAGHEN by musclemeds. www.arimatest.com . Is it GHRH in ingredients too?
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03-19-2009, 03:04 PM
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just a friendly warning guys - if you are going to talk about steriods and other illegals - you'll need to take it to the appropriate steriod section.
The female supplement forum is G rated.
Thanks for understanding.
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Quote:
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I've already buy glutamine now  I read that it can increase gh in human body, I drink 5grams before bed.
So what supplement can increase igf? Is it cjc-1295?
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cjc-1295 isnt a supplements
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03-19-2009, 05:12 PM
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just a friendly warning guys - if you are going to talk about steriods and other illegals - you'll need to take it to the appropriate steriod section.
The female supplement forum is G rated.
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were we talking about illegals or steroids?
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03-19-2009, 10:59 PM
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IGF is not wise for women to supplement with directly due to increased cancer risks.
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Yep, playing with fire there. I cant believe people want to supplement with this without adequate research.
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03-19-2009, 11:08 PM
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were we talking about illegals or steroids?
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not yet.... but I said IF you are going to.... you will need to move location.
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Yep, playing with fire there. I cant believe people want to supplement with this without adequate research.
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can you show us the research?
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can you show us the research?
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dvsness: its all kinds of cancer, so not just bad for women.
There are over 6000 published peer-reviewed articles in scientific literature from 1975 to 2009 linking IGF directly to various forms of cancer. If you have access to a college campus, check out their library and online selections. I cannot give the full-text of articles due copyright issue. Here is abstract of one such review:
J Mammary Gland Biol Neoplasia. 2008 Dec;13(4):431-41. Epub 2008 Nov 22.
Regulation of breast cancer metastasis by IGF signaling.
Sachdev D.
Department of Medicine and Masonic Cancer Center, University of Minnesota, MMC
806, 420 Delaware Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455, USA. sachd003@umn.edu
The insulin-like growth factors (IGFs) signaling via the type I insulin-like
growth factor receptor (IGF-1R) regulate multiple aspects of malignancy. The
importance of IGF-1R in regulating the malignant phenotype is currently being
validated in numerous clinical trials for cancer including breast cancer. This
review discusses the regulation of breast cancer metastasis by IGF-1R. IGF-1R
stimulates invasion and survival in anchorage independent conditions. The
regulation of metastasis independently of tumor growth by IGF-1R is also
discussed. Finally, the impact of this on clinical trial design and outcomes, and
the need for biomarkers, other than reduction in tumor size, are discussed in
light of the fact that inhibition of metastasis is not measured in conventional
clinical trial design.
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OP: if I stated facts in scientific language that you dont understand or care about or rather not hear, go ahead and neg me. At least I would have helped some other uninformed woman from making a mistake of a lifetime.
Muster-with grad school creds in Cancer Biology.
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Anybody knows what is the differences between cjc-1295 with dac and without dac? It seems the cost with dac is more expensive than without dac. Is dac important?
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Anybody knows what is the differences between cjc-1295 with dac and without dac? It seems the cost with dac is more expensive than without dac. Is dac important?
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wrong section to be asking that.
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wrong section to be asking that.
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I'm sorry, where is the right place to ask this one? Aas forum?
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I'm sorry, where is the right place to ask this one? Aas forum?
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yes, please and thanking you muchly.
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I'm sorry, where is the right place to ask this one? Aas forum?
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yes it the womens AAS section
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