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Am I the only one who doesnt like Kai's lat spread?
I'm talking about the look of it and how it flows not how thick it is. Dont get me wrong its one of the most impressive backs but it just seems odd looking to me.
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His lower lats insert at his freakin ass, that's an awesome spread.
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MuscleMAG July 2008
not the only one that thinks it looks "odd" MAybe its the way he poses too. Per haps his hands nee to go to the front of his body instead of the sides?
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Originally Posted by ANARKY
I think its the lack of traps that make it look weird..look at dex and how his back flows up top b/c of the traps and then look at Kai and its just flat up top from shoulder to shoulder.
I completely agree with you. PERSONALLY I think Kai's lat spread is ugly, and he appears to have terrible traps from the back (JMO)
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MuscleMAG July 2008
Originally Posted by ANARKY
I think its the lack of traps that make it look weird..look at dex and how his back flows up top b/c of the traps and then look at Kai and its just flat up top from shoulder to shoulder.
good point. Thats probably his next project.
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Probably because the lower lats are so full which overpower the top.
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Originally Posted by ANARKY
I'm talking about the look of it and how it flows not how thick it is. Dont get me wrong its one of the most impressive backs but it just seems odd looking to me.
Amazing back. How does he sleep on a back like that?
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Originally Posted by DinoT1985
Probably because the lower lats are so full which overpower the top.
nope he doesn't have traps that match the rest of his back
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his back reminds me of franco columbo. thick lower lats, but lacking detail on top. anyhow, its always something he can work on to have a more complete physique!
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his spread is freaking UGLY!
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I like his rear lat spread, its his front double bi that looks a little awkward to me. his arms are really good but not quite as good when there viewed from the front
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Originally Posted by DinoT1985
Probably because the lower lats are so full which overpower the top.
Aw man it would be sick to see him with traps like that. Good job.
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yep, he needs some serious traps to balance that pose out. But still he is f-ing awesome there, crazy ass insertions!
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Its possible that its not the lack of traps, bu the way that he performs his rear lat spread. He could be spreading so much that the traps look flat.
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Originally Posted by ANARKY
I'm talking about the look of it and how it flows not how thick it is. Dont get me wrong its one of the most impressive backs but it just seems odd looking to me.
Kind of yes, his torso is short and it's flat at the top, I prefer longer torsos.
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Most people tilt forward. It looks like he's just standing straight up.
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He can't be conditioned, he's got wrinkles on his lower back!
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Originally Posted by ANARKY
I'm talking about the look of it and how it flows not how thick it is. Dont get me wrong its one of the most impressive backs but it just seems odd looking to me.
It's because his lats are so low. He has no Taper at all, it looks like a giant block IMO. The lack of traps hurts him too and the seperation between his spinal erectors as well.
Its going to hurt him against competitors like Wolf and Heath who have much more aesthetic tapers and higher lats IMO.
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Originally Posted by Supercows
Its possible that its not the lack of traps, bu the way that he performs his rear lat spread. He could be spreading so much that the traps look flat.
In side by side comparisons the guys standing next to him have much better traps. Never seen a pic of him hitting a crab most muscular either.
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that is the fattets back i ever saw
look how thick it is man
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Originally Posted by Bokito
that is the fattets back i ever saw
look how thick it is man
respect kai
ya i agree. hes thick as hell, esp his lower lats but like people said before, his traps just dont compare and it looks like hes lacking slightly in width as well. insane back tho, just a matter of personal preference i guess
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Originally Posted by Bigstewy
...i think it looks Beast
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Originally Posted by dpugh
His lower lats insert at his freakin ass, that's an awesome spread.
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I can dig low lat inserts....look at yates. IMO someone w a lower insert has the potiential to get a better back, I am a fan of his (not 100% for his posing. some is ok but not all) however his lower back way over power his upper back....not sure if its possible but he needs more around the scap area and definately way more trap to balance it out
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Originally Posted by flexap00
I can dig low lat inserts....look at yates. IMO someone w a lower insert has the potiential to get a better back, I am a fan of his (not 100% for his posing. some is ok but not all) however his lower back way over power his upper back....not sure if its possible but he needs more around the scap area and definately way more trap to balance it out
i think it's mainly traps, cus the rhomboid area pops out with thickness and also probably the erectors contribute to that, when he pulls his arms back before hitting a rear lat spread. But his traps look kinda small from all angles(in comparison to the surrounding muscle groups) so I think it's mainly his traps that gotta come up a little.
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MuscleMAG July 2008
traps have to come up a LOT
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looks like u chose a picture where he hasnt even hit the pose fully yet...
ehh well theres no other lat spread pics from that show but
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Originally Posted by BigChamp89
looks like u chose a picture where he hasnt even hit the pose fully yet...
Oh my mistake, Kai doesnt need to improve his traps at all........ come on champ.
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