Who here doesn't use protein powder?

corzzx · 03-13-2009, 12:53 PM

I for one, don't.

Definitelynotme · 03-13-2009, 01:18 PM

i don't use it when bulking. when cutting i do

Dave P · 03-13-2009, 01:24 PM

I always use it.

Most awesome invention ever.

Vikingur · 03-13-2009, 01:29 PM

I only use it in the middle of the night. Food > shakes.

Dave P · 03-13-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingur

I only use it in the middle of the night. Food > shakes.

Bull****

Shakes are food.

Vikingur · 03-13-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave P

Bull****

Shakes are food.

Okay. not whole food, and whole food is way better than shakes.

backherms · 03-13-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingur

Okay. not whole food, and whole food is way better than shakes.

Studies?

Bedwards · 03-13-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by backherms

Studies?

X2.

Vikingur · 03-13-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by backherms

Studies?

I don't need studies for that one. It's pretty much common sense. You see, the body likes to digest food and take it's time doing it. The difference between drinking 2 scoops of whey and eating 8oz lean steak is that the whey will run right through you and set off your nitrogen balance. The body will take it's time to digest the beef and keep aminos elevated in blood for 3-4 hours. You'll benefit so much more from eating a steak than drinking a shake. Even the top guys (don't have to look further than Jay or Ronnie) use whole foods even post workout, and they could get all the whey they wanted from the sponsors. Other thing your missing out with shakes is dietary thermogenesis, especially important when dieting.

gbardahl · 03-13-2009, 02:35 PM

food around for centuries...protein powders around for 10-20 years tops...there your studies

Lexodus · 03-13-2009, 02:37 PM

I havent used protein powder since 1/1/09.

I ran into a doctor on a ski lift back in December, i forgot what kind of PHd he had, but he was VERY VERY knowledgable about diet/nutrition , we had a good long conversation about dieting and what not.

He emphasized emphatically to me that whey protein shakes are complete bunk. Apparently, the bioavailability of whey is extremely minimal, we only utilize 5-10% of the contents. And the fact that supplement companies want you to believe that it is so vital to take right after working out because it is 'fast digesting' is even more of blatant lie. The only reason its so 'fast digesting', if at all, is because it goes in and comes right back out with MINIMAL usage by our digestive system. So wtf..90%+ just goes right thru us. What I tend to equate that to is MONEY. I personally do not want to WASTE my money on a product that does nothing.

So, based on this conversation with him, I decided after 1/1/09, I would stop taking it. I eat a solid meal now after I work out and never take MRP's. My gains are still progressing.

lancs_hotpot · 03-13-2009, 03:34 PM

I do but i havent been able to for the past month or so because i lost my job and cant afford powder. Instead for a quick protein fix i blend between one and two tins of tune with water and neck it. Its horrible but it works. No one should discount shakes they are very effective.

Vikingur · 03-13-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot

I do but i havent been able to for the past month or so because i lost my job and cant afford powder. Instead for a quick protein fix i blend between one and two tins of tune with water and neck it. Its horrible but it works. No one should discount shakes they are very effective.

Not as effective as food.

lancs_hotpot · 03-13-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingur

Not as effective as food.

That could be true. Depends on the situation and who you are.

It makes a lot more sense to have a shake before the gym than a full meal in my opinion. Its also better in my opinion to have a shake immediately after training to get recovery going then a meal an hour later. Also if there is no food handy a shake is the best thing.

Lexodus · 03-13-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot

That could be true. Depends on the situation and who you are.

It makes a lot more sense to have a shake before the gym than a full meal in my opinion. Its also better in my opinion to have a shake immediately after training to get recovery going then a meal an hour later. Also if there is no food handy a shake is the best thing.

-you dont have to have a FULL meal before working out, can be small
-you dont have to have a meal 1 hour after workout, you can eat immediately after
-if there is no food handy, then you should have planned ahead

Tanulean · 03-13-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingur

Not as effective as food.

Studies?

Viking1983 · 03-13-2009, 03:45 PM

I am in a hurry a lot so its great to just throw some powder in a cup with some water and just down it. Plus you can take it anywhere. The convenience factor is a lot better.

lancs_hotpot · 03-13-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexodus

-you dont have to have a FULL meal before working out, can be small
-you dont have to have a meal 1 hour after workout, you can eat immediately after
-if there is no food handy, then you should have planned ahead

- I like to get plenty of nutrients ( 60-80g carbs and 40-50g protein) in before a workout, for me that requires shakes/
- i cant eat immediately after a meal
- i cant always have a meal ready when i need one, so i take a shake.

Vikingur · 03-13-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tanulean

Studies?

See my answer above.

Shakes are only acceptable when you can't under any circumstances get a meal and post workout(whole food is better, don't let supp companies brainwash you) and in the middle of the night.

Anyone who has shake when he can have a whole food meal is a lazy fcuk in my book...

Tanulean · 03-13-2009, 03:50 PM

Studies?

lancs_hotpot · 03-13-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingur

See my answer above.

Shakes are only acceptable when you can't under any circumstances get a meal and post workout(whole food is better, don't let supp companies brainwash you) and in the middle of the night.

Anyone who has shake when he can have a whole food meal is a lazy fcuk in my book...

Thats funny my books says you're a cock. Food is better on the whole but for some people shakes are just more practical, whether they are busy or simply dont have the appetite.

Vikingur · 03-13-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tanulean

Studies?

Studies don't build muscle, hard work does

- Dorian Yates

I take real-life experience over studies any ****ing time of the day

Tanulean · 03-13-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingur

Studies don't build muscle, hard work does

- Dorian Yates

I take real-life experience over studies any ****ing time of the day

Your logic is flawless. I concede.

Dave P · 03-13-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexodus

I havent used protein powder since 1/1/09.

I ran into a doctor on a ski lift back in December, i forgot what kind of PHd he had, but he was VERY VERY knowledgable about diet/nutrition , we had a good long conversation about dieting and what not.

He emphasized emphatically to me that whey protein shakes are complete bunk. Apparently, the bioavailability of whey is extremely minimal, we only utilize 5-10% of the contents. And the fact that supplement companies want you to believe that it is so vital to take right after working out because it is 'fast digesting' is even more of blatant lie. The only reason its so 'fast digesting', if at all, is because it goes in and comes right back out with MINIMAL usage by our digestive system. So wtf..90%+ just goes right thru us. What I tend to equate that to is MONEY. I personally do not want to WASTE my money on a product that does nothing.

So, based on this conversation with him, I decided after 1/1/09, I would stop taking it. I eat a solid meal now after I work out and never take MRP's. My gains are still progressing.

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Originally Posted by Vikingur

I don't need studies for that one. It's pretty much common sense. You see, the body likes to digest food and take it's time doing it. The difference between drinking 2 scoops of whey and eating 8oz lean steak is that the whey will run right through you and set off your nitrogen balance. The body will take it's time to digest the beef and keep aminos elevated in blood for 3-4 hours. You'll benefit so much more from eating a steak than drinking a shake. Even the top guys (don't have to look further than Jay or Ronnie) use whole foods even post workout, and they could get all the whey they wanted from the sponsors. Other thing your missing out with shakes is dietary thermogenesis, especially important when dieting.

The broscience is strong in here.

Holyspokes · 03-13-2009, 04:17 PM

I don't.

I get more than enough protein from my normal meals. I usually only have 2-3 direct protein sources per day too.

Red9 · 03-13-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Holyspokes

I don't.

I get more than enough protein from my normal meals. I usually only have 2-3 direct protein sources per day too.

This. I'd rather spend my money on something like...beef jerky

Tanulean · 03-13-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Red9

This. I'd rather spend my money on something like...beef jerky

Interesting considering protein shakes are cheaper then real food.

I'll never understand that logic.

Bob.Loblaw · 03-13-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gbardahl

protein powders around for 10-20 years tops

10-20 years tops? LOL!

heidismommy · 03-13-2009, 05:16 PM

Yes I do, quite a bit actually. Not only for post workout, but also in recipes like protein bars and protein pancakes. It's just easier to get enough protein if I incorporate protein powder in my plan.

justanotherchik · 03-13-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Red9

This. I'd rather spend my money on something like...beef jerky

i wish i could chow down on beef jerky all day but at like 4-5 bucks a small bag its not gonna happen