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    Eggs

    I had boiled eggs for lunch today. They were filling and very good. I ate them with salt and pepper and ketchup. There has always been a stigmata (for lack of a better word) when it comes to eggs. I don't really understand it to be honest.

    I have a question for all the nutritionist's: what would you say about an egg diet for lunch. I understand egg yolks have heavy cholesterol in them but other than that I do not really understand what is good or bad about eggs. In addition to this, what would you say about eating brown meat chicken nuggets only for dinner. I personally like eating the same foods instead of having a huge array of foods. I really need some help with getting my meal plan sorted for many reasons. Any advice would be helpful thanks.

    I am 24 years old, 5'9 165-175 lbs, skinny fat. I use to weigh above 200 pounds until I started eating healthy (cutting out fast foods). I have a history of eating fatty foods several times a week, chips to burgers and coke. I have stopped drinking soda now, I only drink water. I enjoy grape juice sometimes... I don't eat fast food burgers at all anymore. The only fast foods I eat are pizza (2-3 slices) and chicken subs once a week. I also eat pasta and fish. I have cut out sweet foods entirely besides morning bowl of cereal. My body is far from attractive. I have stomach fat and also a mild case according to the doctors, I would say a bit more than moderate case of gynecomastia. My arms are small yet my calves are huge. I use to play a lot of sports when I was young, however I am not very active at all for the last roughly 10 years. I am going to be joining a gym... I don't really want any sort exercise plan as I have learned there is no real plan in getting the results you want but Hardwork and dedication.



    If I had to make a meal plan in regards to dinner it would be like this (no specific order). TBH I don't even like fast food pizza anymore so I will probably remove that. If you could critique this and add in some inexpensive healthy meals and just give me some general feedback I thank you.


    chicken sub w/ vegetables/sauce
    spaghetti
    brown meat chicken nugget's (7-8)
    hard shell burger meat taco's with salsa/tomato's/cheddar cheese (2)

    My grocery list would consist of:

    Tomato's
    Cucumber's
    Marble cheese brick/sliced cheese
    hard shell taco's
    minced burger meat
    salsa
    brown meat chicken nuggets
    eggs
    white bread
    ketchup
    turkey meat
    mustard
    low fat mayo
    sliced cheese
    pasta
    pasta sauce
    cereal
    milk
    apples
    bannanas

    sub, and Chinese food (noodles/sweetnsour pork) once in a while.

    Please critique.

    Thank you very much.
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    To start learning the basics about nutrition, please read the relevant stickies at the top of the nutrition forum as well as this:

    COMPOSING A RATIONAL DIET

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    The first step is to discard biased advice on nutrition and diet, and, in its place, embrace simple logic:

    Compose a diet that ensures micronutrient and macronutrient sufficiency, derived predominantly from whole and minimally processed foods if possible, with remaining caloric intake being largely discretionary within the bounds of common sense.



    Caloric Intake

    Energy balance is the primary dietary driver of body weight and it also impacts body composition. A chronic surplus of calories will result in increased body weight and a chronic deficit of calories will result in a loss of body weight.

    In other words, in order to gain about one pound of tissue weight (as opposed to transient flux in water weight), you need to consume a total of about 3,500 calories more than you expend. And to lose about one pound of tissue weight, you have to do the opposite -- consume about 3,500 calories less than you expend.

    Thus, the first step in constructing any rational diet is to get a sense of how many calories per day, on average, you should consume in order to progress towards your goals.

    The average number of calories you expend per day -- called total daily energy expenditure (TDEE) -- is a function of your basal metabolic rate (BMR) and your average weekly activity level.

    To estimate your BMR, it's important to have a sense of how much lean body mass (LBM) you carry. If you're not sure, post a photo or two and we can estimate your percentage body fat and, from this number and your total body weight, it's easy to estimate LBM by using the following formula:

    LBM = body weight * (1 - percentage body fat)

    To estimate BMR, use the the Katch-McArdle formula:

    BMR = 370 + (9.8 * LBM in pounds)
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    BMR = 370 + (21.6 * LBM in kg)

    The next step is to estimate average weekly activity using the following guidelines to calculate an activity factor (AF):


    • 1.1 - 1.2 = Sedentary (desk job, and little formal exercise, this will be most of you students)

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    TDEE = BMR * AF

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    Protein: ~0.6 to ~0.8 grams per pound of bodyweight (or target/ideal weight in the obese) -- the highest amount justified by research.

    Fat: ~0.45 grams per pound of bodyweight (or target/ideal weight in the obese) -- the lowest amount implied by clinical observation.

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    Micronutrient Intake

    Take care and use good judgement in food selection and portioning to ensure that micronutrient sufficiency is reached without excessive intake from dietary sources and/or supplements.

    As with macronutrient sufficiency, one should ensure micronutrient sufficiency predominantly or, ideally, entirely from whole and minimally processed foods.

    To get a good sense of recommended intake of vitamins and minerals, please review this USDA guidelines webpage.

    You'll find the following information particularly helpful:


    Meal Timing, Composition & Frequency

    The number of meals you consume, the timing of those meals and the macro/micronutrient composition of each meal is largely a function of personal preference.

    While it might be "optimal" to consume more than one meal per day and less than 5 meals per day, the simple truth is that any difference that directly results from such fine tuning is likely too small to notice even after years of training.

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    Pre & Post Workout Nutrition

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    Supplements

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    can you do the nutrients for me? I will find the website name and it later if not... I cbf to read all that. I was NOT looking for a macro answer, I was looking for some personal insight from someone with knowledge.
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    Originally Posted by Aanniimal View Post
    @ Wonderpug

    can you do the nutrients for me? I will find the website name and it later if not... I cbf to read all that. I was NOT looking for a macro answer, I was looking for some personal insight from someone with knowledge.
    Quit being lazy and do the work for yourself.

    Do you expect us to train for you as well?



    What exactly are you looking for insight on?
    Your post is one long, jumbled mess.
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    Why not just buy eggs, chicken breast, brown rice, oatmeal, and veggie assortments and eat that everyday. If I didn't care about assortment I'd probably eat chicken brown rice and broccoli for lunch and dinner and eggs and oatmeal for breakfast.
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    Originally Posted by Ej63090 View Post
    Why not just buy eggs, chicken breast, brown rice, oatmeal, and veggie assortments and eat that everyday. If I didn't care about assortment I'd probably eat chicken brown rice and broccoli for lunch and dinner and eggs and oatmeal for breakfast.
    I hate eating chicken breast, I only like chicken burgers/nuggets.

    and i'd prefer white rice to brown rice anyway.
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    Originally Posted by InItForFitness View Post
    Do you expect us to train for you as well?
    damn that would be glorious.

    "hey do an hour of cardio for me would you? i don't have time"
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    I eat almost a dozen eggs a week, i eat 3 after my workouts during my push/pull/legs split
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    Originally Posted by Aanniimal View Post
    I hate eating chicken breast, I only like chicken burgers/nuggets.

    and i'd prefer white rice to brown rice anyway.
    What part of the chicken do you think chicken burgers/nuggets are made from? The breast possibly?
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    Originally Posted by andrewlef View Post
    What part of the chicken do you think chicken burgers/nuggets are made from? The breast possibly?

    Yes I hate quail chicken and plain breast with just sauce, non breaded. I don't find it appetizing at all.
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    Originally Posted by Aanniimal View Post
    Yes I hate quail chicken and plain breast with just sauce, non breaded. I don't find it appetizing at all.
    FYI: quail and chicken are two different birds.

    Cant someone just do everything for him already ?
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    Originally Posted by MetilHed View Post
    FYI: quail and chicken are two different birds.

    Cant someone just do everything for him already ?
    I can see OP's amazing 2 year transformation...


    ...wait...nevermind, he refuses to do anything himself.
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    Originally Posted by Aanniimal View Post
    bump
    ?!?!?! why are you bumping? what else is there that hasn't been said?
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    Originally Posted by Ej63090 View Post
    Why not just buy eggs, chicken breast, brown rice, oatmeal, and veggie assortments and eat that everyday. If I didn't care about assortment I'd probably eat chicken brown rice and broccoli for lunch and dinner and eggs and oatmeal for breakfast.
    I think this is sarcastic.

    This is exactly what I eat every day lol. I love it.
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    Originally Posted by Domicron View Post
    ?!?!?! why are you bumping? what else is there that hasn't been said?
    Still waiting for someone to figure it all out for him . . .
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