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    How much yohimbine with ECA stack?

    How much should i take with eca stack.. bb.com has that cheap buy 2 get 1 free sale on it.

    I like yohimbine but mine is pre-mixed with clen, and i cant use clen.. cramps me to bad regardless of how much taurine, K, mg i take, etc. and gives me horrible headaches where i had to OD on tylenol to get through the day.. not worth it to me.

    EC makes me feel fine.
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    ECY gives me a worse feeling than Clen.


    I find myself sitting on the couch not moving just waiting for the crazy jitters to go away.

    Totally not worth it.
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    Safest way I do it is 20mg Y in the morning, pre-cardio. Then wait for hours and start the EC stack. I find it's easier on the heart to do it that way.

    If you're dead set on ECY at the same time, 5mg of Y is the standard.
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    Originally Posted by Dave P View Post
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    ECY gives me a worse feeling than Clen.


    I find myself sitting on the couch not moving just waiting for the crazy jitters to go away.

    Totally not worth it.
    Thanks for the reply.. but injectable yohimbine works great for me.. i just ran out and it will take to long to get more.. as you dont buy it from walmart/bb.com lol.

    I only have clen/yohimbine injectable mix left, and clen doesnt work for me.

    Bb.com is much quicker, I dont have a crap load of time.
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    I think like 5mg Yohimbine HCL

    They complement each other well....
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    Btw, does albuterol affect you the same way as clen?
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    Originally Posted by adrenergic View Post
    Btw, does albuterol affect you the same way as clen?
    Pretty much....but the half life is too short.
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    Originally Posted by MAXMUSCLE86 View Post
    Pretty much....but the half life is too short.
    I meant cramp him and stuff.
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    Originally Posted by adrenergic View Post
    Btw, does albuterol affect you the same way as clen?
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    I meant cramp him and stuff.
    no clue, never used it... and not about to try something new in a contest prep!
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    no clue, never used it... and not about to try something new in a contest prep!
    Lol yeah save it for another time but, you never know.
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    Originally Posted by Dave P View Post
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    ECY gives me a worse feeling than Clen.


    I find myself sitting on the couch not moving just waiting for the crazy jitters to go away.

    Totally not worth it.
    x2...
    I feel much more better Clen than ECY stack (just run it once with Yohimbine).
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    Originally Posted by ponshoe View Post
    x2...
    I feel much more better Clen than ECY stack (just run it once with Yohimbine).
    You guys are missing it here. I have used Yohimbine before lol, the injectable kind, which is much much more potent than oral at smaller dosages, same for clen.

    -I ran clen alone, got horrible headaches.
    -Ran yohimbine alone, tolerated it fine.
    -Only have clen/yohimbine injectable pre-mixed on me.
    -I ran out of plain yohimbine
    -I need more, dont have time to order more inject yohimbine
    -Want to get oral kind

    Dont no what dose? I cant be any more clear lol.. i must be missing something here
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    You guys are missing it here. I have used Yohimbine before lol, the injectable kind, which is much much more potent than oral at smaller dosages, same for clen.

    -I ran clen alone, got horrible headaches.
    -Ran yohimbine alone, tolerated it fine.
    -Only have clen/yohimbine injectable pre-mixed on me.
    -I ran out of plain yohimbine
    -I need more, dont have time to order more inject yohimbine
    -Want to get oral kind

    Dont no what dose? I cant be any more clear lol.. i must be missing something here
    wait so you don't have any more injectable and want oral, then 5mg lol
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    You guys are missing it here. I have used Yohimbine before lol, the injectable kind, which is much much more potent than oral at smaller dosages, same for clen.

    -I ran clen alone, got horrible headaches.
    -Ran yohimbine alone, tolerated it fine.
    -Only have clen/yohimbine injectable pre-mixed on me.
    -I ran out of plain yohimbine
    -I need more, dont have time to order more inject yohimbine
    -Want to get oral kind

    Dont no what dose? I cant be any more clear lol.. i must be missing something here
    Do you inject it subcutaneously or intravenously?
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    You guys are missing it here. I have used Yohimbine before lol, the injectable kind, which is much much more potent than oral at smaller dosages, same for clen.

    -I ran clen alone, got horrible headaches.
    -Ran yohimbine alone, tolerated it fine.
    -Only have clen/yohimbine injectable pre-mixed on me.
    -I ran out of plain yohimbine
    -I need more, dont have time to order more inject yohimbine
    -Want to get oral kind

    Dont no what dose? I cant be any more clear lol.. i must be missing something here
    get some dren, it works great with EC...I don't know how much Y is in it, but it must be a clean extract because it doesnt give me the problems I usually get with it.
    If you going with the generic oral Y, 20 mg's with 25/200 EC

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    Do you inject it subcutaneously or intravenously?
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    Originally Posted by Robboe View Post
    Do you inject it subcutaneously or intravenously?
    subq.. its localized fat burning. Works awesome for localized, but has systemic effects as well.. just works best for localized. Its similar to mixing clen with napalm/topicals, just a hell of a lot stronger and better since u inject it right into the fat itself.
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    Originally Posted by XCriticalBenchX View Post
    subq.. its localized fat burning. Works awesome for localized, but has systemic effects as well.. just works best for localized. Its similar to mixing clen with napalm/topicals, just a hell of a lot stronger and better since u inject it right into the fat itself.
    I figured you would have done it sub-Q. Just remember that oral YHCL will have pretty much all systemic effect, which will seriously ramp up the effects of the ephedrine and would be a very dfferent effect to EC+Sub-Q Y. Dangerous, potentially.

    I wouldn't use the two together personally.
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    None. ECY will cause you to jitter your balls off and feel extremely uncomfortable.
    Much better to go ECGT-ALCAR + Keto, works amazing for me.
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    None. ECY will cause you to jitter your balls off and feel extremely uncomfortable.
    Much better to go ECGT-ALCAR + Keto, works amazing for me.
    You understand the reason for using ECY right?
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    Originally Posted by Striver View Post
    None. ECY will cause you to jitter your balls off and feel extremely uncomfortable.
    Much better to go ECGT-ALCAR + Keto, works amazing for me.
    Lol, you guys have no idea. You think jitters are something from Y, you might want to look into whatt Helio's are. Thats what I've been dabbling with, then come back and talk about jitters.
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    Originally Posted by http://www.bodybuilding.net/supplement-forum/creating-your-own-ecy-stack-15.html
    This is a quick guide on how to save yourself some money and create your own ECY stack that has worked wonders for me and many others during their cutting cycles. ECY stacks are pretty common but as ephedra was banned in supplements the E has been removed from many diet supplements and therefore most ephedra free brands don't do a whole hell of alot.

    Shopping:
    First off your going to need to buy your Ephedrine, Caffeine, and Yohimbrine. Although supplements containing ephedra were banned last year in the United States, you can still get pure ephedrine hcl online as it is a commonly used expectorant bronchodilator for such usses as asthma. One of the most common brands is "Vasopro" so just go to your favorite search engine and type in "Vasopro Ephedrine HCl" and you should be flooded with online stores supplying the product.

    Caffeine is the next component in the stack and can be gotten almost anywhere. I am sure your local drugstore/supplement store has cheap caffeine tablets. You can usually get a bottle of 100 for about $5-6 at most places by such common brands as ProLab, but any generic version will do.

    Finally you need your yohimbine hcl. Once again, most only supplement stores carry Yohimbine HCL and you can simply do a search for them. They usually contain around 2.5 mg per capsule and a bottle of 90 costs about $9.

    Dosing:
    Most people take their fat burning stacks 3 times a day. So we would be taking E, C, Y all together 3 times a day. But first we need to know our dosage fo each.

    Ephedrine HCL: 25 mg which is 1 tablet of most common brands such as Vasopro

    Caffeine: 200 mg which again is 1 tablet of most common brands like ProLab.

    Yohimbine: (PLEASE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE CALCULATIONS)
    We are going to start out dosing at the optimal level based around suggestions for yohimbine hcl. Studies have concluded that the ideal dosing for Yohimbine is .2mg/kg (approximately 1 mg per 10 lbs). So for a 220lb person you are going to take 22 mg. (220/10 = 22 mg)

    So what you need to do is calculate the following:
    Your Weight (lb) / 10 = X mg / Pill size mg = Your Yohimbine HCL Dosage
    Example for Me: 225 lbs / 10 = 22.5 mg / 2.5 mg pills = 9 pills daily

    **REMEMBER TO READ THE AMOUNT OF mg PER PILL AND DIVIDE BY THAT NUMBER as it may be different than the above example ***

    So now that we have everything calculated I would be taking 1 tablet of ephedrine hcl, 1 tablet of caffeine, and 3 tablets of yohimbine hcl as a single dose, three times through the day.

    Other Info:
    If you have never taken an ECY stack or even an ephedrine based product before I STRONGLY suggest you start off slow. Cut back the dosage and get used to effects before you go to full dosage. So instead of doing 3 doses through the day, maybe only do 2 and also cut back the yohimbine dosage with each one so your not at the optimal level. As you get used to it then you can bump up the number of doses and dosage.

    If you guys have any questions please feel free to ask or share your results on this stack.
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    Originally Posted by Chimpinzo View Post
    That help?
    damn thats a **** load of Y lol. Thanks bro, but to late.. i decided against it. Not because i dont like it, but because my EC is going fine right now so i dontt want to throw something in i rele dont need.

    Appreciate it tho bro, awesome for future ref! I bookmarked it
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    I just took yohimbine this morning by accident since it was in a sample and I didnt see it on the label. (I thought I gave all my yohimbine samples away)

    Damn near died in class and that was only at 2/3 dose. Prolly 10mg, cuz with 15 or whatever thats recommended Im dying.

    God I hate this stuff especially when mixed with caffeine.
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    I dont know if this helps much but...

    When I did ECY stack I did:
    25mg E
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    Originally Posted by Chimpinzo View Post
    That help?
    That guy is nuts, and...

    Originally Posted by ZimZim View Post
    I dont know if this helps much but...

    When I did ECY stack I did:
    25mg E
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    5-10mg Y
    ...You are nuts also.
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    Originally Posted by Robboe View Post
    That guy is nuts, and...



    ...You are nuts also.
    lol
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    Originally Posted by ZimZim View Post
    lol
    Im a strong non-responder to stims
    You feel nadda from 25mg ephedrine and 200mg caffeine alone??
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    Originally Posted by ZimZim View Post
    I dont know if this helps much but...

    When I did ECY stack I did:
    25mg E
    200mg C
    5-10mg Y
    this is how i run it. I'm used to the feeling. I get powdered y and suspend it in saline. Been doing it off and on for years. Works fantastically and is cheap as hell. Its just not for everyone, or ANYONE that is sensitive to stims.
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    Originally Posted by Robboe View Post
    You feel nadda from 25mg ephedrine and 200mg caffeine alone??
    Next to nothing, but to tell you the truth I was pretty badly stimmed out when I used ECA, so that may be a part of it.
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    Originally Posted by ZimZim View Post
    Next to nothing, but to tell you the truth I was pretty badly stimmed out when I used ECA, so that may be a part of it.
    Have you used ******* or amphetamines in the past?
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