An old bible found in Palestine confirms the Quran story true

**illriginalized** · 03-09-2009, 07:56 PM

Wake up, brethren!

**ghengisconor** · 03-09-2009, 08:10 PM

and then?

**ONtop888** · 03-09-2009, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Danny23

Wake up, brethren!

Not convincing at all. For an explanation of the Didache: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didache...of_composition

For the actual text of the Didache:

www.ccel.org

**illriginalized** · 03-09-2009, 08:37 PM

There's old Greek Bibles that also confirm the Qur'an.

**ghengisconor** · 03-09-2009, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Danny23

There's old Greek Bibles that also confirm the Qur'an.

Yup. They sure confirm that it was written by mortals. And nothing more.

**leafs43** · 03-09-2009, 08:47 PM

A link proving idiots are born everyday!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=114739701

**comore07** · 03-09-2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Danny23

Wake up, brethren!

fail.

if you are to believe that book because it doesn't mention the crucificxion then please go ahead and throw your baby out with the bathwater, because it doesn't mention the virgin birth either. and your quran says jesus was born of a virgin.

so which is it?

or you can cherry pick.

**ONtop888** · 03-09-2009, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by comore07

fail.

if you are to believe that book because it doesn't mention the crucificxion then please go ahead and throw your baby out with the bathwater, because it doesn't mention the virgin birth either. and your quran says jesus was born of a virgin.

so which is it?

or you can cherry pick.

lulz, good point.

**illriginalized** · 03-09-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by comore07

fail.

if you are to believe that book because it doesn't mention the crucificxion then please go ahead and throw your baby out with the bathwater, because it doesn't mention the virgin birth either. and your quran says jesus was born of a virgin.

so which is it?

or you can cherry pick.

This is in regards to the message of Jesus (pbuh), the story of. But you're right, Islam believes that Jesus was born of a virgin.

**ONtop888** · 03-09-2009, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by OmniPotentTitan

Written by man, none of it matters.

And I suppose you read a text that God personally wrote to you?

**ONtop888** · 03-09-2009, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by OmniPotentTitan

If you believe that which man wrote is the word of God then you are cursed to a life of servitude.

I gladly serve God and my fellow man, no qualms about it.

**comore07** · 03-09-2009, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Danny23

This is in regards to the message of Jesus (pbuh), the story of. But you're right, Islam believes that Jesus was born of a virgin.

so fail thread is misleading. this proves nothing

**illriginalized** · 03-09-2009, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by comore07

so fail thread is misleading. this proves nothing

It in fact does. Jesus was never crucified, nor died, nor resurrected. Look up the Apocalypse of Peter for an example. A book that was purposely taken out by the Romans. Again, in this video, the book taught the core teachings of Jesus not the story of Him.

**comore07** · 03-09-2009, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Danny23

It in fact does. Jesus was never crucified, nor died, nor resurrected. Look up the Apocalypse of Peter for an example. A book that was purposely taken out by the Romans. Again, in this video, the book taught the core teachings of Jesus not the story of Him.

that's why they are not part of the bible. there are a alot of hadiths that i can bring out that spew stuff about muhammad that are not true. so you can see how this works both ways.

**illriginalized** · 03-09-2009, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by comore07

that's why they are not part of the bible. there are a alot of hadiths that i can bring out that spew stuff about muhammad that are not true. so you can see how this works both ways.

Which Hadiths, enlighten me?

They're not part of the Bible because it contradicts the Roman pagan story of Jesus.

**comore07** · 03-09-2009, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Danny23

Which Hadiths, enlighten me?

They're not part of the Bible because it contradicts the Roman pagan story of Jesus.

hadiths that fall within the "Maudu` category.

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/Ulum/asb7.html

no muslim would take them as auhentic.

likewise, any text that contradicts orthodox christian teaching, we'd consider maudu, just like you guys

**ONtop888** · 03-09-2009, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Danny23

Which Hadiths, enlighten me?

They're not part of the Bible because it contradicts the Roman pagan story of Jesus.

What are YOU talking about?!?! The Apocalypse of Peter is an "account" of the Risen Jesus Christ taking Peter for a tour in hell and at one point Jesus says "I will have pity on those who believed in me", saying that if you believe in Him He will save you, what don't you understand?? One major contention with this book is that it says hell isn't eternal, but it's a "secret", so don't tell anyone...which is ridiculous, because this claims he wrote a book about it.

**AA43560** · 03-09-2009, 10:45 PM

Isn't it unanimously agreed that early Christians did not believe in the trinity? (slightly unaware)

**PBateman** · 03-09-2009, 10:46 PM

Rofl!!!!

**KnowledgeSeeker** · 03-09-2009, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by comore07

hadiths that fall within the "Maudu` category.

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/Ulum/asb7.html

no muslim would take them as auhentic.

likewise, any text that contradicts orthodox christian teaching, we'd consider maudu, just like you guys

When Hadith are considered maudu it is because of logical and knowledgeable thinking. If a Hadith has a weak source of notation it can be considered maudu. If it contradicts the Quran it can be considered maudu. However, The Holy Quran has been promised by God to be protected. Isn't it odd that the the oldest bible found teaches the same as the Quran?

If you want to consider this bible false to you answer this question:

Is it logical to assume that the "original" bible, directly from Angel Gabriel too Jesus, would most likely be found in Jerusalem, where Jesus resided?

**illriginalized** · 03-09-2009, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by ONtop888

What are YOU talking about?!?! The Apocalypse of Peter is an "account" of the Risen Jesus Christ taking Peter for a tour in hell and at one point Jesus says "I will have pity on those who believed in me", saying that if you believe in Him He will save you, what don't you understand?? One major contention with this book is that it says hell isn't eternal, but it's a "secret", so don't tell anyone...which is ridiculous, because this claims he wrote a book about it.

How about the part in which he actually had a convo with Jesus as someone else was being crucified?

Originally Posted by AA43560

Isn't it unanimously agreed that early Christians did not believe in the trinity? (slightly unaware)

Early Christians didn't believe in the trinity because no one witnessed or heard Jesus speak from his own mouth about this so-called trinity. Instead it was indoctrinated decades after Jesus was raised up to Heaven by a bunch of Roman thugs. Think about it... Romans who proclaimed to be "Christians" who were the ones who, "crucified and killed" Jesus, sent out bounty hunters to capture and or kill Christians who did not accept this so-called trinity or even the crucifixion/death of Jesus. The trinity version of the Bible was indoctrinated by the sword, literally as they burned and destroyed majority of the legitimate Holy Books, because they contradicted the whole "trinity" mythology.

**KnowledgeSeeker** · 03-09-2009, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by AA43560

Isn't it unanimously agreed that early Christians did not believe in the trinity? (slightly unaware)

Early Christians believed in their Prophet Jesus and One God.

**skelemint** · 03-10-2009, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by Danny23

It in fact does. Jesus was never crucified, nor died, nor resurrected.

Okay, then how when the gospels said that Jesus was crucified and people from the time of Jesus lived at that time when it was "published", how they didnt say that the story is bs?

**Weightaholic** · 03-10-2009, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by KnowledgeSeeker

Isn't it odd that the the oldest bible found teaches the same as the Quran?

Given that the Quran is a mish-mashed retelling of older religions, including Judaism, Christianity and Zoroastrianism, with pagan elements thrown in, not particularly, no.

**skelemint** · 03-10-2009, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by Weightaholic

Given that the Quran is a mish-mashed retelling of older religions, including Judaism, Christianity and Zoroastrianism, with pagan elements thrown in, not particularly, no.

Good point.

**SlappyWhite** · 03-10-2009, 02:11 AM

I ate nothing but beef yesterday, 4kg of beef. I ****ted my guts out all today. Guess that proves beef has a lot of fibre.

**EOY** · 03-10-2009, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by comore07

hadiths that fall within the "Maudu` category.

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/Ulum/asb7.html

no muslim would take them as auhentic.

likewise, any text that contradicts orthodox christian teaching, we'd consider maudu, just like you guys

A Maudu Hadith isn't simply one that contradicts orthodoxy. We don't simply reject hadiths based on the fact that they go against orthodoxy because that's just circular. All hadiths are graded based on their chains of narration and that's how orthodoxy itself is established. A Maudu hadith is just a hadith that fails to pass this objective methodology of grading hadiths. This is quite different from what you described and Muslims certainly don't resemble Christians in this regard.

**ONtop888** · 03-10-2009, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Weightaholic

Given that the Quran is a mish-mashed retelling of older religions, including Judaism, Christianity and Zoroastrianism, with pagan elements thrown in, not particularly, no.

^^ this, after learning about the Qu'ran I came to the same conclusion

**illriginalized** · 03-10-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by skelemint

Okay, then how when the gospels said that Jesus was crucified and people from the time of Jesus lived at that time when it was "published", how they didnt say that the story is bs?

Because they're just authors. They didn't talk to Jesus, eat with Jesus, drink with Jesus... they did nothing with Jesus but implement fairy tales into the story of Jesus.

Those who didn't accept this myth were slaughtered by the Romans who claimed to be Christians themselves. Christian armies just don't slaughter other Christians for fun.

**2X-eed** · 03-10-2009, 10:23 AM

Awesome stuff

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