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    Is being good at running and being good at lifting/strength gains mutually exlusive?

    I figured I would ask here, since you guys are the strongest. I don't consider myself a "power lifter" per se, but my main goal in lifting has always been strength.

    At some point in the next few months I intend to really focus on running, but every time I have done this in the past, my lifts have gone down dramatically. There are other reasons for that besides just running (went to high reps, less weight, less protein), but somehow I get the feeling that either I can be a good runner or a good lifter.

    Is there any way to get good at running without losing strength? Or even perhaps gaining strength still (even if very, very slowly). Has anyone here accomplished this?
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    i ran a 1:26 half marathon about a year and half ago. its possible. but its difficult, and i've decided its easier to focus on one task and excell, which at the moment, is powerlifting.
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    Make sure you up your cals and get enough protein.
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    running is the source of many negative growth hormones. Cortisol being the biggest.

    As the above post said, you can combat these chemicals by eating and resting more.
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    Eventually you'll have to focus on one or the other. Long distance running is the complete opposite of powerlifting, and when you get really strong the effects of running will really show.

    You should settle for sprinting, IMO. Sprinting is more useful and it uses the fast twitch fibers that are so fundamental in powerlifting.
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    i have been running way more than ever lately, and to be honest my strength has been increasing pretty well. ive just been eating and sleeping more
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    Originally Posted by DJSTARER View Post
    running is the source of many negative growth hormones. Cortisol being the biggest.

    As the above post said, you can combat these chemicals by eating and resting more.
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    I hate these threads, usually results in people saying:my 400lb deadlift hasn't gone down a bit!

    Who gives a whoop.


    The question is, why do you strength train? how important is it?

    As everyone else said, keep up your food and sleep.

    There have been a few top guys that run and do cardio, but its all done so not to eat into strength gains
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    Thanks for the info guys, reps are on recharge but I'll hit some folks up here tomorrow.
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    As long as you don't want to run for very long its not that hard.

    If you can run a mile in your deadlift (every 100 pounds = 1 minute) then you're at an elite level of the combination of strength and semi distance running.
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    never heard that before...is that a crossfit thing? (mile, deadlift)
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    i ran a 1:26 half marathon about a year and half ago. its possible. but its difficult, and i've decided its easier to focus on one task and excell, which at the moment, is powerlifting.
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    Depends largely on the distance. You can improve your conditioning quite a bit without much running. HIIT, EDT, Sprints can all lead to great gains so that you are good in both aspects and successful strongmen employ such methods to stay fit when it comes to conditioning.
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    Good thread, I've always wonderd about CV and power lifting. I usually stick to running 3-4 miles at a 6-7min mile pace, that wont damage my lifts or my muscle gain will it?

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    Depends largely on the distance. You can improve your conditioning quite a bit without much running. HIIT, EDT, Sprints can all lead to great gains so that you are good in both aspects and successful strongmen employ such methods to stay fit when it comes to conditioning.

    What the heck is EDT? Never heard of that before.
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    To get conditioned for rugby during my spring break I'm pulling a sled 120m turning around and going back. I'm going to be super upset if I can run 3 miles but I can't squat 475. I'm all about strength but this running business is all about stamina >:[
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    EDT= escalating density training

    trying to do X work in Y time and trying to progressively increase X. e.g. as many bw squats in 5 min, as many reps with 85% of 1rm for bench in 3 min, etc.

    You can read all about it on t-nation.com. Charles Staley popularized this method of training and he has various programs utilizing this protocol.

    Haux running multiple miles at moderate pace is probably the last thing you want to do for conditioning efficiency and least detriment to your strength training.
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    Originally Posted by DevilsSon View Post
    EDT= escalating density training

    trying to do X work in Y time and trying to progressively increase X. e.g. as many bw squats in 5 min, as many reps with 85% of 1rm for bench in 3 min, etc.

    You can read all about it on t-nation.com. Charles Staley popularized this method of training and he has various programs utilizing this protocol.

    Haux running multiple miles at moderate pace is probably the last thing you want to do for conditioning efficiency and least detriment to your strength training.
    Would this be similar to Dog Crapp training? It sounds like it. As for your last statement, mind rephrasing? I think I am confused here, seems like you are saying opposite things.

    Running X miles at Y pace is the last thing I want to do... BUT
    It is also the least detrimental to my strength training?

    If it is least detrimental, wouldn't I want to do that?
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    yes you can, but its much easier if you're just naturally gifted with speed because then you dont have to train with it.
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    Haux running multiple miles at moderate pace is probably the last thing you want to do for conditioning efficiency *as well as to create* least detriment to your strength training.

    is this better?

    basically LSD cardio is not that good for strength athletes.
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    for me i pretty much can't run a lot while powerlifting. i don't recover well and it hurts my gains. suits me fine because i cannot stand running anything over a mile unless its for sports. 200m and under is prolly my favorite. i'd much rather 16 high intensity 100m sprints with a break in between each than a full mile at a medium intensity.
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