Possible Alli Stack

bayoustud1 · 03-05-2009, 01:05 PM

I was wondering if it is possible to use alli in a stack? If so, are there any know stacks? Suggestions?

RachelBringIt · 03-05-2009, 01:08 PM

If your 352lbs Id focus on diet and exercise and get that down before Id even look at a weight loss supplement.

gekkoboy14 · 03-05-2009, 01:10 PM

Alli is a no.

craniumak · 03-05-2009, 01:17 PM

I heard only bad things about Alli, don't do it....focus on diet and exercise first...then implement a dietary supplement later on if needed to give you that extra kick

jdominic6 · 03-05-2009, 01:20 PM

Alli will deprive you of essential and non-essential fatty acids, which your body needs to function properly. You can go without Alli, all it does it make it difficult for your body to absorb various types of fat to help keep total consumed calories low for people that have eating disorders. If you can control the calories going in to begin with you don't need it. Kicking your ass in the gym and eating right should be first priorities. If you want a stack that actually works, look into the Ephedrine/Caffeine stack.

shin254 · 03-05-2009, 01:21 PM

Research the side effects. You have to maintain a rigorous diet while on Alli and if you fall off the diet you can pay for it by getting... well.... "oil slicks". Def be willing to follow through on the Alli diet if youre going to try it.

gbone74 · 03-05-2009, 01:24 PM

I never understood the concept of fat blockers doing what we try do,surely the fats we consume are the type we deliberately set out to eat,why use a supplement to take some out,just dont eat them in the first place if you intend on removing them,or am I missing something.

Maybe use one after a cheat meal full of crap or something but as a supplement every meal I dont get it.

gbardahl · 03-05-2009, 01:33 PM

I'm trying to understand why Alli gets such a bad rep. Most people seem to put it down. It's the only over the counter FDA approved weight loss drug available to the public. If I'm going to take anything to help me with weight loss I would rather take something FDA approved than take a fat burner that hasn't been.

gbone74 · 03-05-2009, 01:47 PM

Like I said above I dont see the point of them in a "bodybuilder type" diet other than for a cheat.

I have 3 months supply of Xenical(the proper alli about 120 quid a month) in the cupboard now(my wife was on them) and I have not been tempted to take them they take 30% of the fat calories out of a meal on a normal healthy meal with 20g of fat say that is 60 calories! which dosent seem a lot to me for the possible sides should be fun while squatting

in10city · 03-05-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gbardahl

I'm trying to understand why Alli gets such a bad rep. Most people seem to put it down. It's the only over the counter FDA approved weight loss drug available to the public. If I'm going to take anything to help me with weight loss I would rather take something FDA approved than take a fat burner that hasn't been.

Because it's junk. How difficult is it to understand that you can achieve the EXACT same effects by simply adjusting your fat intake - minus the need for diapers?

emilyslowiak · 03-05-2009, 02:51 PM

From personal experience-- Alli causes you to miss out on nutrients and fats that are needed by the body. How do I know this? Suddenly, I had a binge eating problem. I had uncontrollable urges to eat things I would never usually touch, my body was telling me something. Then when I stopped taking overly expensive Alli bam-- no more urges. Eat healthy, listen to your body and exercise! PS- SAVE YOUR MONEY!

RachelBringIt · 03-05-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gbardahl

I'm trying to understand why Alli gets such a bad rep. Most people seem to put it down. It's the only over the counter FDA approved weight loss drug available to the public. If I'm going to take anything to help me with weight loss I would rather take something FDA approved than take a fat burner that hasn't been.

Sure because if the FDA approves it....it HAS to be ok for you *cough*fenfen*cough*

gekkoboy14 · 03-05-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gbardahl

I'm trying to understand why Alli gets such a bad rep. Most people seem to put it down. It's the only over the counter FDA approved weight loss drug available to the public. If I'm going to take anything to help me with weight loss I would rather take something FDA approved than take a fat burner that hasn't been.

the FDA is not ur bro

goodfella0729 · 03-05-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by orangecodez

Yeahp it's way overhyped, the old diet and exercise works miracles.

what is this "diet and exercise" thing you speak of

CorruptSilence · 03-05-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gbone74

I have 3 months supply of Xenical(the proper alli about 120 quid a month) in the cupboard now(my wife was on them) and I have not been tempted to take them they take 30% of the fat calories out of a meal on a normal healthy meal with 20g of fat say that is 60 calories! which dosent seem a lot to me for the possible sides should be fun while squatting

I was prescribed these by a doctor prior to learning about proper nutrition, exercise and sleep. I paid for these damn things for 4 months. They are miserable to be on and will bankrupt your ass.

Like was said, learn about nutrition, follow a strict diet and the weight will fall off. Avoid any kind of "blockers". Just don't consume what you don't want in your body in the first place. Trust me, it is the only way to go in the end.

And like was said... The FDA is not your bro. lol

gbone74 · 03-06-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CorruptSilence

I was prescribed these by a doctor prior to learning about proper nutrition, exercise and sleep. I paid for these damn things for 4 months. They are miserable to be on and will bankrupt your ass.

Like was said, learn about nutrition, follow a strict diet and the weight will fall off. Avoid any kind of "blockers". Just don't consume what you don't want in your body in the first place. Trust me, it is the only way to go in the end.

And like was said... The FDA is not your bro. lol

if you were responding to me bro I think they are a waste of time I was telling the OP I have loads for free and am not even tempted to take them,why cut out the good fats I purposely eat that was my point

Kiumarz · 03-06-2009, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gbardahl

I'm trying to understand why Alli gets such a bad rep. Most people seem to put it down. It's the only over the counter FDA approved weight loss drug available to the public. If I'm going to take anything to help me with weight loss I would rather take something FDA approved than take a fat burner that hasn't been.

FDA = Business
Government = Business
Drugs = Business

RachelBringIt · 03-06-2009, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiumarz

FDA = Business
Government = Business
Drugs = Business

You forgot this part...

Big Business= corrupt

therefore ~

FDA = corrupt

CorruptSilence · 03-06-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gbone74

if you were responding to me bro I think they are a waste of time I was telling the OP I have loads for free and am not even tempted to take them,why cut out the good fats I purposely eat that was my point

Nah man, just agreeing with you. I quoted you because I was on Xenical once as well.

gbardahl · 03-06-2009, 09:13 AM

So if the FDA is corrupt and big businesses are corrupt, why do people continue to hammer down protein shakes and supplements in general? Protein supplements and supps in general are manufactured by big businesses that are corrupt and misleading, right? Note: not trying to start an argument, just wanting to see the different feedback on this

RyKane · 03-06-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gbardahl

So if the FDA is corrupt and big businesses are corrupt, why do people continue to hammer down protein shakes and supplements in general? Protein supplements and supps in general are manufactured by big businesses that are corrupt and misleading, right? Note: not trying to start an argument, just wanting to see the different feedback on this

Yes, supplement companies are there to make a profit. Some companies are legit, others, not so legit. There are a good amount of supplement companies and if you were to view peoples stacks you will see a handful of the same companies in everyones stack. If you read the supplement sections you will see numerous posts on whys and why nots to take certain supplements..just as you are seeing with this Alli post.

Now, people know what they're getting when they pound a whey protein shake and that is the protein to feed there muscles and to sustain there muscle growth. People choose not to use Alli as it blocks alot of the key fatty nutrients they have in there diet.

If you were to post this question in a weight watchers forum you would get tremendously different answers as they might not have the same goals as the majority of people on these forums.

Nel45788 · 03-06-2009, 10:03 AM

Comparing Alli to protein shakes is not a good comparison first of all. One is essential to many weight loss programs and extremely essential to any weight gain program. Alli on the other hand is for people who don't have the self-control to not put foods with bad fats in their mouth 10 times a day. As for the FDA being corrupt, aspartame was passed... That crap was not cleared like 10 times in a row, and all of a sudden here it is in all the diet drinks out there. Think there was a little bit of money involved in that one?

sarguy · 03-06-2009, 12:16 PM

The FDA that approved Alli is also the same FDA that is taking B6 off the market due to big pharma pressure. Read: Big Pharma found another way to "reinvent" a nautrally occuring compound and make a mint off of it.

The FDA gets some of its funding from Pharmaceutical companies, therefore the pharmaceutical companies can exert influence.

My personal doc recommended Alli to me. Then I asked why I would want to take it if I was also supplementing w/ EFAs and flax, etc, I got a blank stare. Sadly, when it comes to family practice, a lot of physicians around here are so underpaid and overworked that they have little time to do much other than read the medical literature on the "hot items", rather than critically think and research other alternatives.

As far as supplement companies go, they may not be "FDA approved", but then they are riding solely on their ability to design and market a good product. Crappy products eventually= crappy sales and no job.

mpipes · 03-06-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gbardahl

I'm trying to understand why Alli gets such a bad rep. Most people seem to put it down. It's the only over the counter FDA approved weight loss drug available to the public. If I'm going to take anything to help me with weight loss I would rather take something FDA approved than take a fat burner that hasn't been.

If someone has the discipline to eat properly for losing weight as is recommended by Ali in their packaging/instructions, they wouldn't need Ali in the first place.

If you like having poop uncontrollably leak out of your butt because your body isn't absorbing fats from foods (including the healthy ones you absolutely need), more power to you.