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    Originally Posted by badabing81 View Post
    do we even know that walt knows about the inscription? i can't recall a scene where walt even sees the thing. i remember him looking at the book as he's unpacking at the beginning of this season and having a cocky chuckle to himself, but never opening it.
    They showed the scene from last season where Hank is asking Walt who W.W. could be.

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    Originally Posted by motiva8 View Post
    Oh and those saying Jesse doesn't know Walt offed mike, of course he does he isn't absolutely stupid. There was a reason Vince Gilligan added that scene a few episodes back with jesse shouting ''mike would never do that'' (rat them out) when Walt hinted at disposing of Mike. Now all of a sudden Mikes men who he swore to pay legacy costs to are all killed off & mikes disappeared from the rader. 2+2 guys
    Jesse sure knows that
    it was shown when Walt came to visit him and Jesse said "I know what you did" with Walt responding something like "It had to be done, there was no other way"
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    Originally Posted by motiva8 View Post
    Oh and those saying Jesse doesn't know Walt offed mike, of course he does he isn't absolutely stupid. There was a reason Vince Gilligan added that scene a few episodes back with jesse shouting ''mike would never do that'' (rat them out) when Walt hinted at disposing of Mike. Now all of a sudden Mikes men who he swore to pay legacy costs to are all killed off & mikes disappeared from the rader. 2+2 guys
    Of course he knows. Why else did he have a weapon when Walt came a dropped off the 5mil? They were pissed at each other but I'm sure he didn't think Walt wanted to kill him because he wanted out of the game. Jesse had the gun because he knew about Mike and probably the 10 others getting offed in prison. He thought Walt was there to finish him too.

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    Originally Posted by solidus86 View Post
    Of course he knows. Why else did he have a weapon when Walt came a dropped off the 5mil? They were pissed at each other but I'm sure he didn't think Walt wanted to kill him because he wanted out of the game. Jesse had the gun because he knew about Mike and probably the 10 others getting offed in prison. He thought Walt was there to finish him too.
    I initially thought Jesse was all suicidal and chit :P only copped it when he put the gun on safety and threw it away. Jesse would defo know about the prison people being killed from the news etc and like i said, would obviously conclude Mike is dead as otherwise that wouldn't of happened.

    The show tends to foreshadow things pretty subtly all the time. Chances are the opening s5 scene with the big gun & walt popping pills is to do with his cancer returning and the mexican cartel/Lydia trying to kill him off, you don't just walk away from the game when you're a kingpin.

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    Originally Posted by motiva8 View Post
    I initially thought Jesse was all suicidal and chit :P only copped it when he put the gun on safety and threw it away. Jesse would defo know about the prison people being killed from the news etc and like i said, would obviously conclude Mike is dead as otherwise that wouldn't of happened.
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    Originally Posted by ragingcrayon View Post
    Walt would NEVER have kept a book signed by Gale in his bathroom, especially after hank showed him he knew exactly who Gales was.

    flaw in show and an easy (and stupid) way out. oh well.

    I guess it's a big slip by walt that we have to accept
    May not be from Gale. We never see him give Walt the book. That line was in a poem in that book. May be from Grecthen Schwartz. G.B. may be her maiden name initials. Could be Gretchen Black. Gretchen Black+Walter White=Gray. Gray Matter, the company that Walt was pushed out of. That is a reason why he wasn't worried about it being out. Just a thought.
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    Originally Posted by bustedbisquits View Post
    May not be from Gale. We never see him give Walt the book. That line was in a poem in that book. May be from Grecthen Schwartz. G.B. may be her maiden name initials. Could be Gretchen Black. Gretchen Black+Walter White=Gray. Gray Matter, the company that Walt was pushed out of. That is a reason why he wasn't worried about it being out. Just a thought.
    Thats how Walt will explain it to Hank, who will lie and say he understands and believes Walt but behind the scenes will spend all of his time looking into Walt. And its just a matter of time before they confront each other

    Edit: for everyone saying How could Walt keep a signed book by Gale there? I wouldnt doubt it if Walt never even knew Gale signed it...Im sure gale gave him the book, Walt was his typical self and probably just said "oh thanks gale" and put the book away and never even opened it
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    Originally Posted by alex9090 View Post
    Thats how Walt will explain it to Hank, who will lie and say he understands and believes Walt but behind the scenes will spend all of his time looking into Walt. And its just a matter of time before they confront each other
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    Originally Posted by miscvirus11 View Post
    Cancer isn't back. Remember S05E01? Walt celebrates his 52nd birthday at the Denny's. Has a full set of hair and looks healthy.
    Guess you missed the part where he was taking cancer medication in the bathroom of the restaurant.
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    Originally Posted by miscvirus11 View Post
    Cancer isn't back. Remember S05E01? Walt celebrates his 52nd birthday at the Denny's. Has a full set of hair and looks healthy.

    he's coughing sickly in that scene though.

    and taking pills

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    Originally Posted by ragingcrayon View Post
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    For a minor grammatical mistake in a post? Remind me of that when I'm writing a thesis as opposed to negging for a completely unrelated issue on an internet forum about a tv show.

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    Originally Posted by RussianBrah View Post
    Jesse sure knows that
    it was shown when Walt came to visit him and Jesse said "I know what you did" with Walt responding something like "It had to be done, there was no other way"
    That was referring to the guys in prison being killed...

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    gahhh!!!! when is second half of season and is it also only 5 episodes or 8?

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    Originally Posted by ChicagoCubz View Post
    That was referring to the guys in prison being killed...
    Correct. Jesse however isn't a dummy, and I'm sure he is at least suspicious of Walt for having killed Mike.

    And yes, his cancer is back...that is why he punched the dryer in the restroom, why he finally told Skyler that he is done, why he gave Jesse his money and why he was sick in episode 1.

    I imagine the cartels decide that Walt is not allowed to walk away.

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    Originally Posted by Archanic View Post
    gahhh!!!! when is second half of season and is it also only 5 episodes or 8?
    Starts July 2013 and it is another 8 episodes for a total of 16.

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    Originally Posted by mcbizkit02 View Post
    They showed the scene from last season where Hank is asking Walt who W.W. could be.
    uh yea, i know. but that has nothing to do with whether walt read the book or not. hank had a portfolio of gale's stuff which had a quote in it, not the actual novel.

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    Originally Posted by ForYourHealth View Post
    Guess you missed the part where he was taking cancer medication in the bathroom of the restaurant.
    Juar re-watched and he takes one pill, but we don't know what for. We can only speculate.

    Originally Posted by Rexy View Post
    he's coughing sickly in that scene though.

    and taking pills
    He coughs once and nothing like he has before in the past. It was a very mild cough.

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    Originally Posted by miscvirus11 View Post
    Juar re-watched and he takes one pill, but we don't know what for. We can only speculate.



    He coughs once and nothing like he has before in the past. It was a very mild cough.
    It's still an important scene, obviously they're not going to have a giant banner saying "HIS CANCER IS BACK", but they're going to throw subtle hints at you

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    Originally Posted by BROTHERHOOD View Post
    The book WAS given to walk by Gretchen...
    no.



    the handwriting is Gale's. Walt will try and play it off like it was a gift from Gretchen, but he it was all Gale.

    also, Walt has read the book. I can only assume he knew the inscription was there.


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    Originally Posted by ChicagoCubz View Post
    That was referring to the guys in prison being killed...
    sure but it's obvious that since Walt killed them it means Mike is no longer alive
    no way Mike would let him do it, even though the DEA was tracking him
    I don't really know though
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    Originally Posted by badabing81 View Post
    the handwriting is Gale's. Walt will try and play it off like it was a gift from Gretchen
    no fuking way he could get away with it
    Hank is now absolutely sure + even if he'd still have any doubts he can just get that diary from the DEA archive and compare
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    Originally Posted by Random Letters View Post
    I imagine the cartels decide that Walt is not allowed to walk away.
    I'd be surprised because by the end of the 4th season it was clear as a day that cartel is simply destroyed by Gus
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    Originally Posted by ragingcrayon View Post
    Walt would NEVER have kept a book signed by Gale in his bathroom, especially after hank showed him he knew exactly who Gales was.

    flaw in show and an easy (and stupid) way out. oh well.

    I guess it's a big slip by walt that we have to accept

    I think it shows that Walt isn't as seasoned of a criminal mastermind as he wants to believe he is. I think he's been in over his head this whole time and it's his first misstep...

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    Jesse definitely does not know about Mike being dead. Jesse has a HUGE past with Mike and looks to him almost as a father figure. When I watched the scene and Jesse says "Saul told me what you did" I was under the impression the Jesse was talking about the 9 guys in prison (after mentioning his concern about them to Walt earlier in the episode) while Walt thought he was talking about the death of Mike.

    I would be extremely surprised if Jesse would just casually let Walt know that he knows he murdered someone he truly cared about. I mean look at how he reacted to the whole Brock situation and he essentially has no ties to the kid.

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    Originally Posted by laxster View Post
    I think it shows that Walt isn't as seasoned of a criminal mastermind as he wants to believe he is. I think he's been in over his head this whole time and it's his first misstep...
    exactly. the "empire building mastermind" persona is a season 5 revelation only. people forget that through the first 4 seasons of the show walt was just a regular dude who got himself in over his head in this criminal world. he made mistakes constantly. killing gus doesn't all of a sudden make him a mastermind immune from mistakes.

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    Anyone think it was odd that Skylar and Lydia were both wearing the same colour nail polish in the most recent episode?
    I think it shows that Walt has two main women in his life now, they are partners but in different ways.
    They were both wearing red nail polish though, anyone know what this could have symbolised? Was it used to foreshadow all of the bloodshed in the episode (the prison shankings)?













    not srs about any of this lol, just thought I would post another crackpot theory about BB to rustle all of your jimmies!

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    Just saw the episode, won't give my .02 cents since I'm sure everything has already been discussed, but awesome episode. Now we wait.
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    next episode walt will kill hank and continue being bawsss
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    Originally Posted by suave2000 View Post
    LOL

    [img]http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ws8aa8am1qhimg]

    Next thing you're going to say the the Oscars are the pinnacle of cinema..... Emmy voters ans syndicated journalists will only like what they're paid to like.

    Tarkovsky, Godard, Melville, Buñuel, Truffaut, De sica, Visconti, Bergman.... google those names and watch something decent for a change. It seems you have to broaden your horizons.
    i've taken film classes and seen films from several of those listed. they are entirely different, and comparing a godard film to an AMC show is like comparing michaelangelo to bob ross. an art film and a tv show thats about meth... hmm yea your point is invalid. if all you ever watched was serious film you're a boring fukc.
    Originally Posted by suave2000 View Post
    of what times? so the only way to depict decadent times is trough tits and gore..... okay.jpg

    I never tried to predict any twists.... what the phuck are you talking about?
    decadent? its a fukcing war show you twit. Rome was a show about decadence, GoT is about war.

    and in your first retarded post the other day you said BB had "predictable plot twists" yet you didn't predict them? does that make you a potato?
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