6 month progress pics! Gained 35lb! (170-205)

[vadox6466]

Here's an after side-tri pic to show that my arms grew and I did gain muscle mass:

[BEhave]

You gained too much fat too quickly. I would say start lifting EXTREMELY clean. I didn't go through the thread to see if you stick to a certain diet, but its clear your diet needs some tweaks. I would say get on rippetoes routine to start you off.

Don't be so concerned about gaining weight, but rather gaining MUSCLE

[Wevans2303]

Dude stop trying to sway our opinions, your arms look bigger because there is just fat making them look bigger, if you took all the fat away you would not be a pound heavier than you were before.

You gained too much fat too quickly. I would say start lifting EXTREMELY clean. I didn't go through the thread to see if you stick to a certain diet, but its clear your diet needs some tweaks. I would say get on rippetoes routine to start you off.

Don't be so concerned about gaining weight, but rather gaining MUSCLE

His diet is clean, but its 4300 calories.

[Muskle]

Rofl this sht is funny hahahahahah!

OP, you gained some muscle but you clearly gained alot of fat

just cut

[dizzay20]

OMG iam laughing....iam SOOOOO laughing.

[Wevans2303]

The fact you gained 35lbs in 6 months just shows how much fat you gained.

[TheDude88]

he goes to harvard, so hes alright in my book no matter what he looks like

[1oldTJ]

At least you're going to Harvard.

[Wevans2303]

It just makes me sad that you think you have put on a tonne of muscle mass, and how cell tech helped you. When Cell Tech did not do much at all, more likely contributed to that fat gain since it has 75g dextrose per serving.

Also, saying you have put on little fat, really sad, its more like no muscle and a lot of fat, im sorry bro.

Its time to cut the fat and start a fresh.

[TomMassicotte]

Woah man I just looked you were getting like 340g protein, and 450g carbs, and 90g of fat.

First off try getting 200g protein and like 300-100g carbs and switching it up everyday, try all kinds of cardio, and go for STRENGTH, nothing else.

Here is a forum that will help you - www.ironaddicts.com

Honestly don't expect to get big unless you can bench 300, squat 400, and deadlift 500.

And no offense defending yourself right now is kind of pointless, you have been working out a lot less longer than most these people offering you advice, realize that this sport takes patience and a long time to look good, you might never look how you want to, but you can still have a nice body and look athletic for YOU.

Strengthen up.

EDIT: What have you been doing if you register'd in 2004?...

[KineticWall]

cut now op, im sure u gained muscle just cut so we can see it

[tele2k]

ok, i dont know if you can do math or not, but it seems everybody here failed elementary school arithmetic.

1lb to 2lb's a week is what i wanted to gain over 6lb's. After 8 weeks, I only gained 5ish pounds. So, I upped cals and gained 35lb's over the 6 months.

BTW, 6 months = 24weeks. 35lb's in 24weeks = 1.45lb's, or exactly half of what I wanted.

I dont see the problem. you guys will see, I'll post pics when i get to 230lb's and then again when I cut down, i'll look awesome

Dude, you failed at supporting your theory.

[TomMassicotte]

Dude, you failed at supporting your theory.

Dude if he bulks to 230 and he can't even lift heavy weights then I don't know, but I'm totally curious to see it lol.

[Wevans2303]

Tom your so naive strength is relative, you dont have to be super strong to be big.

Nothing about weight, this guy can barely deadlift his own body weight. Why do you think there are so many light power lifters?

[dizzay20]

fail bulk is fail!

[OoFaP]

I gained over 40 pounds in 6 months and got fat too...but I put on muscle at least.

[TomMassicotte]

Tom your so naive strength is relative, you dont have to be super strong to be big.

Nothing about weight, this guy can barely deadlift his own body weight. Why do you think there are so many light power lifters?

Because strength is relative to getting big, show me someone that reps 135 on bench and is big? Or even reps 225 and is big?

[singyay4ed]

OP, post your lifting routine.

[GetBigyo]

i dont think you need to cut like i said before. you have to learn how to properly eat and lift. get on a good routine. take it slowly.

[Epictetus IV]

Macros and the amount over maintence you are is everything!!!!!

so your telling me person A with macros: 80%carbs 10%protein 10%fat will lose fat and the same as person B with macros: 40 40 20? NO!!!!!
(they both have same calories too)

you can still raise ur bf % on a calorie deficit while seeing the scale move. you will be losing muscle.

KEEP THOSE MACROS IN CHECK!

I'm sorry, but you're a 16 year old idiot. The answer to your question is yes.

All this word vomit you're spewing out of your mouth is broscience. How about you go look at some published peer-reviewed studies?

Wow.

[N54]

Age: 13
Stats: 5'4", 115 lbs
Posts: 54
dont talk

Age: 14
STFU-N-SQUAT

[Bigdonut]

Ok OP, I think you did gain decent mass, but can't really see it well.

What's your workout routine? Seems kinda weak for your size

[vadox6466]

Ok, so just to prove to all you guys that I'm not trolling or swapping pics or whatever, I've attached the progression

The pictures are labeled in the following format:

"(Month) - (Weight)"

So "1-171" is at the very start
"2-176" is the 1st month on the bulk
..etc


(I didn't take pictures the 3rd or 5th month)

[StevenNevets]

Another dirty bulk gone wrong.

[vadox6466]

Here's my progression:

First one is start
2nd one is 1 month in (176lb)
2 months in (180lbs)
3 months in not here
4 months in (189lbs)
5 months in not here
6 months in (205lb)

[kooklie]

like someone said earlier, yeah your arms look bigger and yeah you probably gained some muscle. but to me your fat to muscle gain ratio is like, 4:1. you shouldnt have been consuming over 4000 calories. personally i think 3500 is good enough. CUTTTTTT

[vadox6466]

This was my workout:

Week 1: 3x12
Week 2: 3x10
Week 3: 3x8
Week 4: 4x6
Week 5: 5x5
Week 6: 8x3
(You will do this on ALL lifts)

Lower
Upper
off
Lower
Upper
off
off


Upper Day 1:
- Bench Press
- Close Grip Bench
- Military Press (standing)
- Pendlay Row

Lower Day 1:
- Conventional Deadlift
- Narrow Stance Squat
- Goodmornings
- Barbell Shrugs

Upper Day 2:
- DB Bench
- Narrow Grip Incline
- Plate Raise
- Pull-Up w/ weight

Lower Day 2:
- Narrow Stance Squat
- SLDLs
- Reverse Hyper
- Dumbell Shrugs

** This is the program, DO NOT SUBTRACT any of the exercises! If you dont know how to do them, learn how to do them! The only reason you should ever pull out any of these during the whole 5 week cycle is if you feel pain doing them. If you dont know the lift I'd suggest doing an alternate pattern with the movement. Basicly rather than progressing with the given rep/set pattern I've showed continue to do:

3x12
3x10
3x8
3x8
3x8

Once you start the cycle over again after the 5th week, you can then continue the same rep/set pattern as the first outline (with the regular lifts) and progress in the lower reps. This will 1. Keep you from getting hurt, 2. Teach your form, and 3. Break the learning chain/curve. Its key that if you dont know anything about the movements that you spend as much time working with them and do as many reps as possible with the given movement. This is where motor skills develop and intra-inter neuromuscular coordination develop w/ the movement.

** Biceps/Abs, Upper day's throw in a bicep exercise if you want. On lower days throw in some Ab work. This is an accesory work, so its not that important. Keep the reps around 3x8-4x6 if you want.

** Keep a journal that I'll have access too. I'll look at how your progressing. If you have any before pictures send them to me or save them. Once your done with the first meso cycle compare your progress from before you started till then w/ pics and lift achivments. Do the same when you repeat the cycle. This is key in mental motivation, and that is where to many people fail.

** Once you get a whole meso cycle Wave (12 total weeks) you'll take some low volume work to help recovery. Its key that you dont take ANY time away from the gym. To many people just walk away for a week or two weeks, this makes coming back a sore painful mess for atleast 2 weeks. Now you've spent 4 weeks without making any progress. This is a typical deloading pattern. By trianing under your adaptive threshold (ie low volume) then you will not adapt, therefor you will recover. This is the fundomental bases of periodization!!

** During the first few 4 weeks you can add in failure work. Dont do it on all lifts and dont do it on squats, squat variations or deadlifts. Rows, Shrugs, db benching are all ok. Another thing to keep note on is during the WHOLE cycle you want SHORT rest periods. Im talking 30-60 seconds between sets, this comes key when you get to the intensity portion (8x3). Fatigue has a positive effect on IGF-I and other singaling for hypertrophy. On weeks 4-6 this is a big factor in the program. This will help with conditioning the muscle and overal work capacity.

[Utfckid]

hate the workout looks like **** tbh. mayaswell have done a full body circuit 3 times a week and you would have used more muscles and done way more sets tbh that looks way too low and is obviously trying to build strength i could only assume since the sets go up and reps head down each week but the weights you are lifting dont reflect this at all.

stop what your doing, stop taking so many pointless supplements, eat half of what ur eating, get a decent lifting program.

most people including myself think you have taken a step not backwards but more sideways ie you have made maybe some progress by putting on some muscle but you now have to remove all the excess fat you have gained during this process. SO the moral of the story is this dosent work your strength dosent seem to have gone up you dont look much better if at all.

take these opinions and think about it.

[Amw088]

hmm "Bulk WITHOUT Getting Fat"

did you even read that article?

lol

[Amw088]

I dont care what you guys say I think i gained a lot of musscle. Sure some of it is fat, but it's only minimal and plus when I cut down i'll look better. I'm going up to 230lb's before I cut, so I can be huge when i'm lean

didn't dreamer say somthing like this?