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    Originally Posted by GetBigyo View Post
    lmao. its all about MACROS and CALORIES. if someone eats 4000 cals of clean food vs. 4000 cals of dirty food. the 4000cals will likely affect body comp due to macros. if your macros are 80% carbs 10%fat 10% protein even on a calorie deficit you can still gain bodyfat due to losing muscle mass and raising your bf %.

    DONT EAT DIRTY ALL THE TIME OP. 1-2x a week is fine even 3.
    Why are you talking, your pics show me nothing. Don't speak you fool.
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    Yes, don't listen to me listen to the other fat 16 year old bodybuilder..lol??
    lol at you bringing my pic in. wheres your pic smartass.?

    i wasted 2 yrs of lifting in my life due to what OP was doing listeing to retards in this teenbodybuilding section who know ABS. nothing. i just startewd focusing on getting stronger and eating cleaner and only eating 100 cals oer maimntenece.

    well see whos laughing in 6 months when i come back in my journal with 6 month progress pics.

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    listen guize, i understand it takes time to get to a good before/after thing. When i cut, and i compare the before with after, it'll be a lot better. think of this as "halfway" thru the transformation
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    why were you eating 4000 cals
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    listen guize, i understand it takes time to get to a good before/after thing. When i cut, and i compare the before with after, it'll be a lot better. think of this as "halfway" thru the transformation
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    Originally Posted by thepulse999 View Post
    why were you eating 4000 cals
    because i wasnt gaining nearly enough in the first 2 months
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    Originally Posted by GetBigyo View Post
    lmao. its all about MACROS and CALORIES. if someone eats 4000 cals of clean food vs. 4000 cals of dirty food. the 4000cals will likely affect body comp due to macros. if your macros are 80% carbs 10%fat 10% protein even on a calorie deficit you can still gain bodyfat due to losing muscle mass and raising your bf %.

    DONT EAT DIRTY ALL THE TIME OP. 1-2x a week is fine even 3.
    i said MACROS is what matters, whether it is "clean" or "dirty" doesnt matter.

    if you can eat fast food and keep your macros reasonable, it is perfectly fine as far as body composition goes.
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    im glad i wasn't the only one thinking that
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    Originally Posted by Full_Blown View Post
    i said MACROS is what matters, whether it is "clean" or "dirty" doesnt matter.

    if you can eat fast food and keep your macros reasonable, it is perfectly fine as far as body composition goes.
    yeahh sry bro i didnt notice you said macros lol. yeah its all about macros. my bad.
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    Hey, can somebody help me embed these pictures to put them side-by side?

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    im glad i wasn't the only one thinking that
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    nice on gaining weight. but i would advise to start doing more cardio. maybe tone your body some now.
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    because i wasnt gaining nearly enough in the first 2 months
    "Enough" = 1 pound a week.

    That's four pounds a month.

    48 pounds of muscle (and of course some fat, water, glycogen, all that good stuff) in a year.

    That's not enough for you?
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    nobody gains 1 lb of dry muscle per week. 1 lb per month maybe. go to the grocery store and hold a 1lb steak. You don't gain that in a week unless you're on steroids.
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    Originally Posted by Wintermule View Post
    "Enough" = 1 pound a week.

    That's four pounds a month.

    48 pounds of muscle (and of course some fat, water, glycogen, all that good stuff) in a year.

    That's not enough for you?
    eh 48 pounds of muscle in a year is highly unlikely. i would try to gain no more than 1 pound a week OP. i think ..50-.75 would be ideal.

    just srsly OP just get on a good routine. going on ia simple power based routine and focus on getting stronger. eat clean and alittle over maintence and do cardio. do this for 6-12 months and then come back. trust me you will be bigger and leaner. it takes time. think long term not short term. cutting now will just put you pretty much aneroxic.
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    Originally Posted by GetBigyo View Post
    lmao. its all about MACROS and CALORIES. if someone eats 4000 cals of clean food vs. 4000 cals of dirty food. the 4000cals will likely affect body comp due to macros. if your macros are 80% carbs 10%fat 10% protein even on a calorie deficit you can still gain bodyfat due to losing muscle mass and raising your bf %.

    DONT EAT DIRTY ALL THE TIME OP. 1-2x a week is fine even 3.
    Originally Posted by Full_Blown View Post
    i said MACROS is what matters, whether it is "clean" or "dirty" doesnt matter.

    if you can eat fast food and keep your macros reasonable, it is perfectly fine as far as body composition goes.
    These are both a little true in a sense.

    Studies have determined that in losing weight, the biggest thing is a caloric deficit. The experiment they did consisted of those on a low carb, high protein, low fat diet, high carb low protein low fat, high fat low carb low protein, etc.. The results: They all lost weight at approximately the same rate. Their body compositions weren't much different from each other. This shows that MACROS is NOT that important in the grand scheme of things.

    It might give you some peace of mind, but it really doesn't effect it TOO much. Here's the main thing: if you consume less calories than you burn off, you'll lose weight. If you consume more calories than burn off, you'll gain weight. One of the most important things if you're bulking is your workouts. You want those excess calories to go to your muscles, not fat. If you're training hard and effectively and tearing down those muscles, then those calories will go to them.

    Macros really aren't that important in the scheme of things. Obviously you'll have some bad results if all of your calories are coming from sugar and candy, but that is very extreme and very unlikely. MACROS are more so for health. Ensuring you're getting all of your proper nutrients/minerals/etc.
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    Honestly though, You gained some muscle but still way too much fat. You upped your calories way too ****ing high I mean from 2,800 - 4,300? It doesn't matter what foods youre eating when youre taking in all those macros theyre going to end up turning into fat. Your maintenance is about 3,400 (Guess).
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    Originally Posted by GetBigyo View Post
    eh 48 pounds of muscle in a year is highly unlikely. i would try to gain no more than 1 pound a week OP. i think ..50-.75 would be ideal.

    just srsly OP just get on a good routine. going on ia simple power based routine and focus on getting stronger. eat clean and alittle over maintence and do cardio. do this for 6-12 months and then come back. trust me you will be bigger and leaner. it takes time. think long term not short term. cutting now will just put you pretty much aneroxic.
    I know, I'm just saying. One pound a week would be very good. That's like 1/100 people can make 50 pound gains. What is he expecting, to get from 170 to 250 in a year or something?
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    Originally Posted by Platonic Pluto View Post
    These are both a little true in a sense.

    Studies have determined that in losing weight, the biggest thing is a caloric deficit. The experiment they did consisted of those on a low carb, high protein, low fat diet, high carb low protein low fat, high fat low carb low protein, etc.. The results: They all lost weight at approximately the same rate. Their body compositions weren't much different from each other. This shows that MACROS is NOT that important in the grand scheme of things.

    It might give you some peace of mind, but it really doesn't effect it TOO much. Here's the main thing: if you consume less calories than you burn off, you'll lose weight. If you consume more calories than burn off, you'll gain weight. One of the most important things if you're bulking is your workouts. You want those excess calories to go to your muscles, not fat. If you're training hard and effectively and tearing down those muscles, then those calories will go to them.

    Macros really aren't that important in the scheme of things. Obviously you'll have some bad results if all of your calories are coming from sugar and candy, but that is very extreme and very unlikely. MACROS are more so for health. Ensuring you're getting all of your proper nutrients/minerals/etc.

    Macros and the amount over maintence you are is everything!!!!!

    so your telling me person A with macros: 80%carbs 10%protein 10%fat will lose fat and the same as person B with macros: 40 40 20? NO!!!!!
    (they both have same calories too)

    you can still raise ur bf % on a calorie deficit while seeing the scale move. you will be losing muscle.

    KEEP THOSE MACROS IN CHECK!
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    Originally Posted by Wintermule View Post
    I know, I'm just saying. One pound a week would be very good. That's like 1/100 people can make 50 pound gains. What is he expecting, to get from 170 to 250 in a year or something?
    IMO its possible for the majority of people to gain 50 lbs a year, however most will **** up at some point in time over the course of a year and end up gaining ~30 lbs.
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    Originally Posted by Wintermule View Post
    "Enough" = 1 pound a week.

    That's four pounds a month.

    48 pounds of muscle (and of course some fat, water, glycogen, all that good stuff) in a year.

    That's not enough for you?
    ok, i dont know if you can do math or not, but it seems everybody here failed elementary school arithmetic.

    1lb to 2lb's a week is what i wanted to gain over 6lb's. After 8 weeks, I only gained 5ish pounds. So, I upped cals and gained 35lb's over the 6 months.

    BTW, 6 months = 24weeks. 35lb's in 24weeks = 1.45lb's, or exactly half of what I wanted.

    I dont see the problem. you guys will see, I'll post pics when i get to 230lb's and then again when I cut down, i'll look awesome
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    ok, i dont know if you can do math or not, but it seems everybody here failed elementary school arithmetic.

    1lb to 2lb's a week is what i wanted to gain over 6lb's. After 8 weeks, I only gained 5ish pounds. So, I upped cals and gained 35lb's over the 6 months.

    BTW, 6 months = 24weeks. 35lb's in 24weeks = 1.45lb's, or exactly half of what I wanted.

    I dont see the problem. you guys will see, I'll post pics when i get to 230lb's and then again when I cut down, i'll look awesome
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    please op if you arent trolling look at my above posts DO THAT. dont go to 230. just basically recomp
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    because i wasnt gaining nearly enough in the first 2 months
    You don't up your calories by 1500 a day, that's effin 10.5k calories a week...... lol. Up it by 500 max if you arent gaining.
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    If you look beyond the fat you see that you have actually become smaller too.

    Anyone else think this is worse than dreamer?

    Fail.
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    you added 30 of these on to your body in 3 months? no....or 1 a week? no

    1-2lbs a month is plenty.
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