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    Diet:

    I will be increasing calories soon

    • Meal 2 - 0gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 3 - 60gr Carbs ; 42gr Protein ; 15gr Fat (Preworkout)
    • Meal 4 - 60gr Carbs ; 42gr Protein ; 15gr Fat (Postworkout)
    • Meal 5 - 15gr Carbs ; 42gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 6 - 0gr Carbs ; 42gr Protein ; 15gr Fat

    Workout Days - Postworkout shake = 25gr whey Isolate w/ 5gr L-leucine
    Intra workout - 3 scoops Xtend + 6gr bulk BCAA ~ 16gr BCAA

    Note: OFF Days I only have (starchy) carbs in meal 1, and fruit in meal 3 & 5.

    Training:

    Monday - Legs
    Tuesday Chest + Biceps
    Wensday - OFF/ Cardio
    Thursday - Deadlift + Traps + Shoulders
    Friday - OFF/ Cardio
    Saturday - Back + Triceps
    Sunday - OFF
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    wow...guess im first for this
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    Week 1: Day 1

    Monday:

    AM LI Cardio = 25min sipping on BCAA


    Legs:
    • Leg Press - 11(410), 11(430), 8+1(450)
    • Leg Extensions - 10(150), 9(160), 7(170), 7(175) // Single leg - 2 sets 10-15 reps
    • Stiff-leg deads - 6(245), 5(245), 9(225)
    • leg curls - 8(70), 8(80), 6(90), 4(90)+2(80)

    Postworkout LI Cardio = 15min

    Todays thoughts:
    I applied 5 pumps of 1-T this morning after my shower. I think I might have put it on a little thick on my chest, so I will make sure to cover more area tommorrow.

    After I applied it I seemed to get really vascular and pumped. 1-T smells great also!

    Todays workout was awesome! Squats felt really good, I was able to put up more weight than last week, by 10-15lb. I must be noticing a placebo effect, but I felt great!
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    Week 1: Day 2

    Tuesday:

    AM LI Cardio = 25min sipping on BCAA


    Chest + Chest:
    • Incline DB bench press - 7(65), 5(70), 3(70), 3(70)+2(65)
    • Flys (Flat) - 8(45), 7(45)
    • Flys (Incline) - 8(45), 7(45)+3(35)
    • (E-z Curl bar) Standing Barbell curls - 4(105), 6(95), 6+2(95), 5(95)+5(85)
    • Standing DB curls - 8(45), 6(50), 4(50)+5(45)
    • single arm DB preacher curls - 11(30), 6-7(35), 6(35), 8(30)

    Postworkout LI Cardio = 15min

    Todays thoughts:
    I applied 5 pumps of 1-T this morning after my shower. I think I applied it better today. I didnt notice it gumming up on me like yesterday.

    My legs are not really sore, eventhough I had a crazy workout yesterday.

    Today I was able to get more reps with 195 on bench then last week. Workout went great! I got an awesome pump.

    I am adding in 60grs of Carbs to Meal 2 for now on. So my meal plan looks like:
    Workout Days:
    • Meal 2 - 60gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 3 - 60gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat (preworkout)
    • Meal 4 - 60gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat (postworkout)
    • Meal 5 - 15gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 6 - 0gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat

    OFF/ Cardio Days
    • Meal 2 - 60gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 3 - 15gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 4 - 0gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 5 - 0gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 6 - 0gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
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    Log looks good, bud. Good luck.
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    Wednesday:

    AM LI Cardio = 25min sipping on BCAA


    OFF day.

    I felt and still feel like I am getting sick (However I feel better than yesterday). I rested all day yesterday. I didnt do any other cardio expect ~20 min in the AM.
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    Thursday:

    AM LI Cardio = 20-25min sipping on BCAA

    Deadlift + Shoulder + Traps
    • Military Press - 7(115), 6(115), 5(115)
    • DB shoulder Press - 8(55), 5(60), 5(60)
    • ft. Rasie - 10(20), 8(30), 8(35)
    • Rear Delt row (barbell) - 8(115), 8(115), 7(125)
    • Up-right row - 9(85), 7(105)
    • Shrugs (Barbell) - 7(205), 5(225), 5(225), 8(205)
    • DB shrugs - 6(90), 5(90)

    Postworkout Cardio: 15min

    Thoughts Thursday I got up feeling better than I did on wed, but still not 100%. I was still determined to hit the weights so I took some stimulates and went.

    My deadlifts were not as strong as usual, but I was holding back alittle because I felt my body getting tired. I didnt want push it so hard (last time I did I pulled my lower back)

    Other than deads my weights were up! My aggression was soaring during the workout, even though I was battling a cold.

    Friday

    Today I went to the Arnold Expo in the Am, and did some cardio in the PM ~ 5:00pm

    I feel that I am getting over this sickness quickly, and I will hit my Back + Triceps on Saturday.

    I dont really feel a whole lot different today concerning the 1-T
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    Originally Posted by kknecht1 View Post
    I applied 5 pumps of 1-T this morning after my shower. I think I might have put it on a little thick on my chest, so I will make sure to cover more area tommorrow.

    After I applied it I seemed to get really vascular and pumped. 1-T smells great also!
    Just and FYI, the 5 pumps of 1-T should pretty much over your entire upper body from chin to waist. (arms, back, ect)

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    Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Just and FYI, the 5 pumps of 1-T should pretty much over your entire upper body from chin to waist. (arms, back, ect)

    -Eric
    I started spreading it better over my entire upper body.
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    Saturday:


    Back + Triceps
    • Bent-over row - 6(185), 5(195), 4(205), 3(205), 8(175)
    • T-Bar Row - 10(90), 8(115), 9(110), 9-10(110)
    • DB row - 8(95), 6(100), 5(110)
    • Ft. Pulldown - 7(150), 8(150) // Rev. Grip - 9(150), 8(160)
    • Close-Grip Bench - 7(155), 4(165), 3(165), 4(165)
    • Incline Skull-crusher - 8(85), 7(85), 6(85)
    • Cable pulldown - 10(120), 8(130), 7(140)

    Postworkout Cardio: 15min

    Thoughts Todays workout started really slow. I wasnt able to do very many pull-ups like I usually can. I hit a PR on Bentover rows and DB rows.

    Amazing pump in the gym!

    I am over the sickness I had, and I ready for legs on Monday!
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    Subb'd too. I'm curious about the PCT stack, so I'll be following. Did you get any blood work done?
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    Subb'd too. I'm curious about the PCT stack, so I'll be following. Did you get any blood work done?
    no I didnt
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    Monday:

    AM LI Cardio = 25min sipping on BCAA


    Legs:
    • Leg Press - 12(350), 10(450), 6(470), 4(500)+5(450)
    • DB Lunges - 10(60), 10(70), 5(85)
    • Leg Extensions - 9(150), 8(170), 6(190), 6(190)+2(150) // Single leg - 2 sets 10-15 reps
    • Stiff-leg deads - 8(225), 4(245), 6(225)
    • leg curls - 8(85), 6(90), 5(90)

    Postworkout LI Cardio = 15min

    Todays thoughts:

    Squats didnt feel right for me yesterday, so I didnt force it too much. Instead I added in some DB Lunges. I was able to push more on Leg Press, but it was really taxing.


    Tuesday:

    Today I woke up feeling rested, but as the day went on I got extremely tired. I went to the gym for my Chest + Bicep workout, but I felt drained. I only got a few sets of Bench in before I called it quits. I figured that I would switch my off day Wed. with today, and hopefully get a good workout in tommorrow.

    So right now I am feeling tired, and cannot tell if the 1-T is working.

    I hope I am not starting to Over train. I plan on getting more sleep tonight. Hopefully tommorrow will be more productive.
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    Week 2: Day 10

    Wednesday:

    AM LI Cardio = 25min sipping on BCAA


    Chest + Chest:
    • Incline DB bench press - 8(65), 4(75), 4(75), 5(70)
    • Flys (Flat) - 6(50), 5(50)+3(40)
    • Flys (Incline) - 3(50)+5(45)
    • Standing Barbell curls - 7(95), [almost 5]4(115), 4(115), 3(115)
    • Standing DB curls - 6(45), 7(45), 3-4(50)+4(45)
    • Reverse Curls - 5-6 (55), 5(55)

    Postworkout LI Cardio = 20min

    Todays thoughts:
    I am beginning to get pretty lethargic during the day. I woke up this morning feeling freshed, but as the day went on I started to feel tired (wanting to nap). I rested yesterday, and went to bed early.

    I had to take some stimulants to be able to workout today. Once in the weight room I was very focused, and alittle stronger than usual.

    My legs are still sore from Monday

    I am Updating my diet ( adding 60gr Carbs on OFF days)

    Workout Days:
    • Meal 2 - 60gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 3 - 60gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat (preworkout)
    • Meal 4 - 60gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat (postworkout)
    • Meal 5 - 15gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 6 - 0gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat

    OFF/ Cardio Days
    • Meal 2 - 60gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 3 - 60gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 4 - 15gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 5 - 0gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
    • Meal 6 - 0gr Carbs ; 42 gr Protein ; 15gr Fat
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    Looking good, buddy. You can try a night-time application to help combat the lethargy a bit. This also has the potential to cause insomnia as well, so see what works best for you.I used a stim product of choice myself, and it seemed to get the job done pretty well. Make sure you're taking in a good amount of complex carbs throughout the day as well.

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    Today I felt like I was getting sick again. I dont know what is happening. I get ~ 7hrs of sleep a night, and eat very clean. It might be the weather here, since it is 60-70 degrees one day and 20-40 degrees the next.

    Anyway I want to make sure that I dont get real sick to where I have to stop this cycle since I am this far into it. The plan is to have my (deadlift + shoulders+ traps) workout tommorrow, then hopefully hit my full back + triceps on Saturday.

    Next week I hope to get back to my normal schedule! I took my final today, so I can sleep in more and get in some AM workouts.


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    Looking good, buddy. You can try a night-time application to help combat the lethargy a bit. This also has the potential to cause insomnia as well, so see what works best for you.I used a stim product of choice myself, and it seemed to get the job done pretty well. Make sure you're taking in a good amount of complex carbs throughout the day as well.

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    Originally Posted by kknecht1 View Post

    Training:


    Tuesday Chest + Biceps

    Saturday - Back + Triceps
    ok, gotta question you on this. why do these combo's? chest workouts hit tri's, so it makes sense to do the extra tri work on those days. and back exercises hit bi's, so you should do the extra bi work on back days.

    is there any method to your madness?
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    Originally Posted by kknecht1 View Post
    Today I felt like I was getting sick again. I dont know what is happening. I get ~ 7hrs of sleep a night, and eat very clean. It might be the weather here, since it is 60-70 degrees one day and 20-40 degrees the next.

    Anyway I want to make sure that I dont get real sick to where I have to stop this cycle since I am this far into it. The plan is to have my (deadlift + shoulders+ traps) workout tommorrow, then hopefully hit my full back + triceps on Saturday.

    Next week I hope to get back to my normal schedule! I took my final today, so I can sleep in more and get in some AM workouts.




    Stims are needed for me! But once I am in the gym I feel better.
    Alteration in hormone levels is just one of the many factors (stress - of both physical and psychological componenets, dietary deficiency, overall health status, recent exposure to an illness) that can play a role in immune system functioning and maintenance. It's often why you hear guys get sick on cycle at times. This time of year 'viral syndromes' run rampant.

    During my last cycle (Phera-plex and 1-T) i became ill about 15 days in. I took it easy for a few days and i was able to continue making remarkable progress.

    Make sure that you have a sufficient amount of rest time during your weekly lifting routine. It looks as though your getting a good amount of sleep, and your diet is on point. Those are most certainly important factors as well.
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    Originally Posted by Rucker12 View Post
    ok, gotta question you on this. why do these combo's? chest workouts hit tri's, so it makes sense to do the extra tri work on those days. and back exercises hit bi's, so you should do the extra bi work on back days.

    is there any method to your madness?
    By spliting Chest w/ Biceps and Back w/ Tricep I am able to hit both really hard, where as if I did Triceps after Chest I would be much weaker.

    I have tried both ways, and I love spliting it up this way.

    Edit- I also split Deadlifting from my back day. Since doing this my deadlift strength has shot up, and my back started growing faster.
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    Week 2:Day 12

    Friday:



    Deadlift + Shoulder + Traps
    • Military Press - 8(115), 4(125), 4(125), 6(115)
    • DB shoulder Press - 7(60), 5(60)
    • Rear Delt DB - 10(20), 10(20), 8(25)
    • Up-right row - 9(95), 5(115)+ 4(95)
    • Shrugs (Barbell) - 6(225), 5(225), 7(205)

    Postworkout Cardio: 15min

    Thoughts I had a decent workout. My Deadlift and military press was up considerably! I woke up with that sore throat again (w/ muucos). Once I get in the gym I feel like I can lift anything! I am pretty sure this is starting to kick in

    I cut out a few exercise, because I didnt want to over do anything since I am trying to get over the sore throat.


    Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Alteration in hormone levels is just one of the many factors (stress - of both physical and psychological componenets, dietary deficiency, overall health status, recent exposure to an illness) that can play a role in immune system functioning and maintenance. It's often why you hear guys get sick on cycle at times. This time of year 'viral syndromes' run rampant.

    During my last cycle (Phera-plex and 1-T) i became ill about 15 days in. I took it easy for a few days and i was able to continue making remarkable progress.

    Make sure that you have a sufficient amount of rest time during your weekly lifting routine. It looks as though your getting a good amount of sleep, and your diet is on point. Those are most certainly important factors as well.
    I feel I am getting over it now. I feel great right now
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    Originally Posted by kknecht1 View Post
    By spliting Chest w/ Biceps and Back w/ Tricep I am able to hit both really hard, where as if I did Triceps after Chest I would be much weaker.

    I have tried both ways, and I love spliting it up this way.

    Edit- I also split Deadlifting from my back day. Since doing this my deadlift strength has shot up, and my back started growing faster.
    That's what I figured you were going for. It's just uncommon, so I thought I'd check.
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    Week 2: Day 13

    Saturday:


    Back + Triceps
    • Bent-over row - 6(185), 4(205), 3(205), 7(185), 8(185)
    • T-Bar Row - 5(125), 6(120), 7+1(120)
    • DB row - 7(100), 5(110)
    • Rev. Grip - 10(150), 8(160)
    • Close-Grip Bench - 8(165), 5(175), 3(175), 3(175)+1(165)
    • Incline Skull-crusher - 8(85), 4(95), 6(85), 5(85)
    • single arm Cable pulldown - 2 sets

    Postworkout Cardio: 15min

    Thoughts I had a decent workout! I know I would have been stronger if I did yesterdays workout on Thursday giving me a day between these two. My back was still sore from the deadlifts yesterday, but I needed to get this workout in.
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