shoulder labrum tear people

[JDkeystone]

night and days keep in for 30 days

Wait... these are actual contact lenses that you can leave on continously for up to 30 days??

If they're disposables, though, that won't work for me (I have super-horrible vision, so all my prescriptions have to be made with permanent lenses, since the disposables don't even go up to the vision level I need LOL)

Meh, I'm getting my eyes tested on Saturday; if I have to, I'll just bite the bullet and get both lenses and glasses. God dammit...

[JDkeystone]

Another bump, but new question.

For all you guys that have (or used to have) multiple dislocations like me, were you able to pop any of them back in on your own? Or did you have to go to the hospital to have it put back in after being sedated?

Today was dislocation #20 for me on my right side. After my last dislocation (about 2 weeks ago), I was able to pop it back in myself by tucking my right leg up to my chest, wrapping both arms around it, and pulling back (the way the doctors told me to do it). I tried to do that again when it came out this morning, but it didn't work this time, so I had to call an ambulance and go to the ER (again).

Just wanna know if anyone has an effective way to pop back in a dislocated shoulder that they could share. So far, out of all 21 dislocations I've had, the wrapping-arms-aound-curled-up-leg-while-leaning-back method hasn't been very successful for me (it's only worked twice out of all my dislocations). But I am SO SICK of having to go to emerg every ****ing time it pops out, cuz what could have been a quick, 2-minute procedure turns into a 4-6 hour ordeal (with lots of drugs, pain, and endless waiting to go with it)

[seriouslifter]

Wait... these are actual contact lenses that you can leave on continously for up to 30 days??

If they're disposables, though, that won't work for me (I have super-horrible vision, so all my prescriptions have to be made with permanent lenses, since the disposables don't even go up to the vision level I need LOL)

Meh, I'm getting my eyes tested on Saturday; if I have to, I'll just bite the bullet and get both lenses and glasses. God dammit...

yes ask the eye doctor, u keep them in for 30 days and then throw them away. they come in 6 month supply

[thebear123]

which surgey would be better for a labrum tear open or arthoscope?

[thebear123]

also if I get surgery will my shoulder ever be 100% again and how long is the recovery time from surgery? Oh and will the pain go away?

[Wh][te Dev][L]

thebear123,

You will want arthoscope for sure. The recovery time is way shorter. Your surgeon will want to do arthoscope if possible.

100%?
Well that's a tough question. Some I have talked to do get to 100% but I would say most do not. From what I have heard most get to about 85-95% after it's all said and done.


I'm at 5 months post-op and have very little pain. Only when I reach at a weird angles do I get any pain. I would say strength and ROM I am about 70% at this point. I had tears that were 10 years old and so I do not expect to ever get to 100%. Don't get me wrong I already feel better(stable) now then before the surgery. Just going to take time to get all my strength back.

[thebear123]

thanks white devil

I'm going to see my doctor probaly next week. I dislocated my shoulder 6 months ago and I had no pain at up until last week its been bothering me everyday so far

also would I ever be able to get back into bodybuilding again? I went from 110 to 185 from 14 to 18 years old and since this injury I'm down to 158, I was 174 before I got injured

[lpager]

My doctor is telling me that i have a labral tear in both of my shoulders even though the MRI's are not showing the tear.I've had a arthrogram with dye on my right shoulder and still the MRI didn't show any tear.I was just wondering if anyone has ever had the surgery on their labrum even though the tear didnt show up on an MRI scan or an Arthrogram scan with dye??

[JDkeystone]

My doctor is telling me that i have a labral tear in both of my shoulders even though the MRI's are not showing the tear.I've had a arthrogram with dye on my right shoulder and still the MRI didn't show any tear.I was just wondering if anyone has ever had the surgery on their labrum even though the tear didnt show up on an MRI scan or an Arthrogram scan with dye??

How was your doctor able to determine you have a tear if the only tests you've had done is an MRI and arthroscopic MRI, but neither actually showed the tear?

Curious cuz I had a regular MRI a year and a half ago, which the doctor I was seeing at the time said showed nothing for any kind of tears or damage (thus leading to his final diagnosis that I just had "very lax muscles and ligaments" and would just have to "live with it").

[RyanGrob]

How was your doctor able to determine you have a tear if the only tests you've had done is an MRI and arthroscopic MRI, but neither actually showed the tear?

Curious cuz I had a regular MRI a year and a half ago, which the doctor I was seeing at the time said showed nothing for any kind of tears or damage (thus leading to his final diagnosis that I just had "very lax muscles and ligaments" and would just have to "live with it").

Honestly, all tears don't show up on Arthograms/MRI's. Mine didn't but it was sure there when he went in. There are stability tests they can do to help determine whether it's a probably tear or not.

[MillenniumTiger]

Honestly, all tears don't show up on Arthograms/MRI's. Mine didn't but it was sure there when he went in. There are stability tests they can do to help determine whether it's a probably tear or not.

I agree. When I first saw my doctor, he knew right away that the labrum was torn, but we waited until the Arthrogram to make sure. Still, he told me that he was actually surprised something showed up with it because most of the time (for his patients anyways), nothing does.

[seriouslifter]

im over 5 months out and i have been starting to do presses, but it still doesnt feel normal. i dont even wanna press heavy since it kind of bothers it. i only really do dumbells, but when i lean but that first rep to push the weight up i can feel it in my right shoulder. also when i press my shoulders get so tired/pumped that i stop probably before chest when 10 reps. thats probably endurance in muscles. i wish it was just 100% fixed, time will tell

[Wh][te Dev][L]

lpager,
I know someone that had this kind of situation. Well opposite of you but here ya go.
MRI showed a tear. Went into surgery and surgeon found there was no tear so no work really had to be done. Guy recovered very quickly.
So if they do go in and see in fact there is no tear they will most likely leave it be and you would heal very quickly.
The other thing is you should always get a second opinion on something like this. Schedule an appointment with another specialist and have them take a look at your MRI.

seriouslifter,
Ya presses scare me still as well. I am able to do normal pushups now, 20 at a time. I feel weak from all the time off but not really any pain. Feels pretty stable as well. Now when I'm doing these I am making sure my shoulders are pulled back, down and pinching my upper back together. I find if I don't do that I get a little pain from it.
But ya, I too am very hesitant to do much more than that at this point.

[thebear123]

Ok i need help deciding between these two doctors to get surgery on my shoulder. Both are recommended by a few people I know and I cant decide.

Michael F. Pizzillo
http://www.englewoodortho.com/pizzillo.htm
http://www.ratemds.com/doctor-rating...ewood/Pizzillo



Michael L. Gross
http://www.activeorthopedic.com/doctors.html
http://www.ratemds.com/doctor-rating...ckensack/Gross

[seriouslifter]

seriouslifter,
Ya presses scare me still as well. I am able to do normal pushups now, 20 at a time. I feel weak from all the time off but not really any pain. Feels pretty stable as well. Now when I'm doing these I am making sure my shoulders are pulled back, down and pinching my upper back together. I find if I don't do that I get a little pain from it.
But ya, I too am very hesitant to do much more than that at this point.

i guess i gotta keep chopping at it. everything else is fine its just chest. im doing more for shoulders with dbs than chest lol. its just a diff angle doesnt bother as much. i dont really wanna do the bar. my chest still gets sore

[lpager]

How was your doctor able to determine you have a tear if the only tests you've had done is an MRI and arthroscopic MRI, but neither actually showed the tear?

Curious cuz I had a regular MRI a year and a half ago, which the doctor I was seeing at the time said showed nothing for any kind of tears or damage (thus leading to his final diagnosis that I just had "very lax muscles and ligaments" and would just have to "live with it").

It was an arthrogram MRI,not arthroscopic lol...but when my doctor did certain physical examinations like the obriens test (google it) which tests the labrum.my shoulder made a clunking sound and it popped,indicating that there is a labral tear.did your doc do the same?

[lpager]

lpager,
I know someone that had this kind of situation. Well opposite of you but here ya go.
MRI showed a tear. Went into surgery and surgeon found there was no tear so no work really had to be done. Guy recovered very quickly.
So if they do go in and see in fact there is no tear they will most likely leave it be and you would heal very quickly.
The other thing is you should always get a second opinion on something like this. Schedule an appointment with another specialist and have them take a look at your MRI.

seriouslifter,
Ya presses scare me still as well. I am able to do normal pushups now, 20 at a time. I feel weak from all the time off but not really any pain. Feels pretty stable as well. Now when I'm doing these I am making sure my shoulders are pulled back, down and pinching my upper back together. I find if I don't do that I get a little pain from it.
But ya, I too am very hesitant to do much more than that at this point.

I have gone too three different doctors.2/3 are telling me that it is torn.and the third one didnt really do any physical examines.just looked at the mri and said that my rotator cuff was just rubbing against my humeral head.

[mkit8971]

It was an arthrogram MRI,not arthroscopic lol...but when my doctor did certain physical examinations like the obriens test (google it) which tests the labrum.my shoulder made a clunking sound and it popped,indicating that there is a labral tear.did your doc do the same?

My shoulder popped and clicked, and I only had bursitis. My MRI showed a labrum tear too, yet there was no tear.

[lpager]

My shoulder popped and clicked, and I only had bursitis. My MRI showed a labrum tear too, yet there was no tear.

So what did you have to do to heal the bursitis,and how long was your recovery after the surgery?

[JDkeystone]

It was an arthrogram MRI,not arthroscopic lol...but when my doctor did certain physical examinations like the obriens test (google it) which tests the labrum.my shoulder made a clunking sound and it popped,indicating that there is a labral tear.did your doc do the same?

Lol sorry, still mixing up the terms (cuz I'm a rebel like that...or just have a really bad memory haha).

Anyways, no, the doctor I was seeing at the time didn't do anything like that. He just finally ordered for me to have the MRI by my 9th or 10th dislocation in March of 2008. But after the results came back, he said there was no tear and that he therefore couldn't do anything for me, and sent me on my merry way.

I'm currently looking for another specialist, though, cuz my shoulder is popping out about every other week at this point. If it was still only coming out once every 8-10 months, then I prolly could "live with it". But once or twice a month is ridiculous.

[lpager]

Lol sorry, still mixing up the terms (cuz I'm a rebel like that...or just have a really bad memory haha).

Anyways, no, the doctor I was seeing at the time didn't do anything like that. He just finally ordered for me to have the MRI by my 9th or 10th dislocation in March of 2008. But after the results came back, he said there was no tear and that he therefore couldn't do anything for me, and sent me on my merry way.

I'm currently looking for another specialist, though, cuz my shoulder is popping out about every other week at this point. If it was still only coming out once every 8-10 months, then I prolly could "live with it". But once or twice a month is ridiculous.

Yea i would definitely would find a specialist.My doctor is a sports medicine specialist,if you can try and find a doctor who specializes in sports medicine and shoulders.Good luack with finding one.

[bubba g]

Lol sorry, still mixing up the terms (cuz I'm a rebel like that...or just have a really bad memory haha).

Anyways, no, the doctor I was seeing at the time didn't do anything like that. He just finally ordered for me to have the MRI by my 9th or 10th dislocation in March of 2008. But after the results came back, he said there was no tear and that he therefore couldn't do anything for me, and sent me on my merry way.

I'm currently looking for another specialist, though, cuz my shoulder is popping out about every other week at this point. If it was still only coming out once every 8-10 months, then I prolly could "live with it". But once or twice a month is ridiculous.

Good ol socialized health care.

[mkit8971]

So what did you have to do to heal the bursitis,and how long was your recovery after the surgery?

I had surgery on May 15th, was out of the sling by the 17th, and moving my arm with no restrictions after a week. Shoulder felt great up until about two weeks ago. I went back to him and he said the bursa likely regrew and became inflamed again. Cortisone shot made it feel like a brand new shoulder, but that wore off after about 4 days. Currently I'm icing it 3 times a day for about 20 minutes. From what i've read, bursitis is something that's hard to get rid of. I mean, you literally have to be inactive for 6+ weeks and avoid using the shoulder for any type of everyday activity.

[Wh][te Dev][L]

...Currently I'm icing it 3 times a day for about 20 minutes. From what i've read, bursitis is something that's hard to get rid of. I mean, you literally have to be inactive for 6+ weeks and avoid using the shoulder for any type of everyday activity.

I have the same thing going on. I got held up on my PT because I let it get way too inflamed. Went to my surgeon about it and my options are, ice it when I work it out to keep it down or have the sac removed.
I went for the non-surgical route so I ice.

[seriouslifter]

hmm i dont have those problems, i did before but it seems week by week my shoulder does get better. it feels very strong now, but i still feel it somewhat pain when i do presses. incline feel better than flat db's. im doing more for shoulder dbs than chest. i do sometimes ice it after i workout, but sooner or later he said i dont need to do that anymore. i dont think i even have to now

[21Classic]

I really dont know what I have anymore





Happened about a year ago, doing heavy bench.

was excruciating when it happened, but i never heard a pop or tear, so its not like it shredded like some guys



Hit the doc, got x rays, MRI. they 'said theres no tear', but i dont believe them, obviously somethings wrong.




anyways, theres a dull ache during and after every chest day (it only hurts when i do bench press and military press)

besides it making me fear to go heavy because i dont wana **** anything up, it doesnt inhibit me except for pain. I still work out at 100%



right now im taking a joint supplement, see if it helps.

[MillenniumTiger]

Did they give you a contrast dye injection for the MRI? Most tears within the shoulder will not show up without it and my Doc said that sometimes it still doesn't even with it. It's always helpful to get a second or even third opinion if you don't have faith in whomever you are seeing now.


When you lift, do you keep your elbows in, or do they flare out kind of at a 90 degree angle? There are guys on my team that keep their elbows out and complain of an ache after lifting and that's because it puts more stress on the shoulders.

[mkit8971]

I have the same thing going on. I got held up on my PT because I let it get way too inflamed. Went to my surgeon about it and my options are, ice it when I work it out to keep it down or have the sac removed.
I went for the non-surgical route so I ice.

Good choice. This has been one of the most nagging injuries i've had. If i rotate my arm or let it click too many times the bursa immediately becomes inflamed. Ice has most definitely helped relieve a lot of irritation. I was going through tubes of IcyHot like no other.

[UberPooch]

For guys who have had labral tear surgery, how are your shoulders doing post-op and therapy? What was the end result in terms of mobility and what are your limitations with weightlifting (e.g. pushing exercises such as benching, dips, etc)?

I've got surgery scheduled in early Nov for an anterior and posterior tear in my right labrum. The doc is good but says recovery will be slow and a bitch as well. I can expect a solid 6 months of PT but up to a year before full recovery/mobility assuming I don't mess things up by rushing it.

His comments seem to synch up with others I've seen. When I asked Dave Tate (world renowned strength/power lifter) for words of wisdom given that he's had labral tear surgery, he didn't pull any punches:

My advice based on having this done twice and not listening to what I was told to do is very simple. Do what you have to do to regain full range of motion before screwing around with anything else. If this is not done you will be f*cked.

[fukstreet]

I had this surgery orthoscopically three years ago and now my shoulder that had work is better than my one that has not.