Updates on PHs in the military?

bubblehead1428 · 02-24-2009, 05:16 PM

Just wondering if there is anything new on taking prohormones in the military..

Still safe? Not safe?

I've done plenty of research and feel as though i have a pretty good understanding, just wondering if there is anything new to worry about or if any actual hard evidence has surfaced.

kobrien21 · 02-24-2009, 05:20 PM

why not take injectible steroids? they are much safer and more effective. pro hormones will make you test positive anyway. i don't see the point in taking pro hormones.

musclepeak88 · 02-24-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kobrien21

why not take injectible steroids? they are much safer and more effective. pro hormones will make you test positive anyway. i don't see the point in taking pro hormones.

This.

bubblehead1428 · 02-24-2009, 05:39 PM

yeah, so about that testing part. Do they still not test for steroids on the usual random test?

bubblehead1428 · 02-24-2009, 07:06 PM

bump

MrPHF · 02-24-2009, 07:20 PM

standard urinalyses does not include the proper testing for steroids. besides, if it's OTC it's usually fair game.

bubblehead1428 · 02-24-2009, 08:57 PM

Thanks, i know its a gray area because most PHs convert to the original compound which is more than likely on the banned list

RenegadeUR · 02-24-2009, 08:58 PM

Your usual piss test doesnt test for steroid use.

bubblehead1428 · 02-24-2009, 09:22 PM

Thats what I thought, but does that mean its safe to say that a random UA will never be tested for anabolic compounds?

RenegadeUR · 02-24-2009, 09:26 PM

I administered piss tests in the military..They wont test you for an anabolic compound unless they have reason to..No a random UA wouldnt be tested

bubblehead1428 · 02-24-2009, 09:46 PM

Thats what i needed to know. Thanks! I plan on starting dymethazine this deployment and just wanted to know if im safe if im called to provide a Random Urinalysis

bubblehead1428 · 02-24-2009, 10:40 PM

What about the instruction that states the navy will test 1000 samples every two years? (that instruction was implemented in 1994)

bubblehead1428 · 02-25-2009, 07:42 PM

bump

Big_Pete1000 · 02-25-2009, 07:55 PM

I was in Army for 5 years. They will only test for marijuana and coke. Drugs like that. PH and steroids they do not test for and it will not show up on a regular monthly urinalysis.

MrPHF · 02-25-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bubblehead1428

Thats what i needed to know. Thanks! I plan on starting dymethazine this deployment and just wanted to know if im safe if im called to provide a Random Urinalysis

I've been on 5 deployments....never seen a random piss test performed once in the middle east

bubblehead1428 · 02-25-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by joeodam

I've been on 5 deployments....never seen a random piss test performed once in the middle east

Yeah, but this is a deployment on a naval ship. They still perform random UAs

hoov · 02-25-2009, 09:08 PM

Here is some good reading.
Looks like they added prohormones to the UCMJ.

PM me for the link to the UCMJ
I can't post it

lcplgrande · 02-25-2009, 09:11 PM

I doubt you'll be getting a piss test on a deployment. But another point worth bringing up is trying a cycle on deployment. I personaly think it's a bad idea. Especially being on a ship. Why not wait until your nutrition and training can be 100%? Give it some serious thought man, I'm sure you're anxious, but wait until the time is right.

bubblehead1428 · 02-25-2009, 09:18 PM

Its odd, but i actually get my diet and routine in better check while underway, than i do in port. However, i understand your point and appreciate your opinion. My biggest concern is still that damn possibility of popping on a random.

lcplgrande · 02-25-2009, 09:25 PM

It's imposible. That's what Renegade is trying to say. Someone has to think that you're on AAS then specifically test you. Then have your piss sent to a completly different test facility than where they normally go. It also costs your unit alot of extra money to do this. It's not random at all. I'd be more worried about getting everything out of my cycle than getting tested if I were you.

bubblehead1428 · 02-25-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lcplgrande

It's imposible. That's what Renegade is trying to say. Someone has to think that you're on AAS then specifically test you. Then have your piss sent to a completly different test facility than where they normally go. It also costs your unit alot of extra money to do this. It's not random at all. I'd be more worried about getting everything out of my cycle than getting tested if I were you.

Thanks bro, reps