What Is Tren?

[blong]

This is completely serious. I hear all about "tren" and searched and a few different products came up and I'm not sure what exactly it is/does and the popular brand if it exists or if its one product.

Reps for a serious answer without talkin s**t lol

[Steel_Colossus]

tren is a group of prohormones, that supposedly convert to trenbolone.
You have xtreme-tren, trenadrol etc...
they are great for strength gains, im actually on a trenadrol/dymethazine cycle right now.
The problem with tren is it is high in sides depending on the person.
Personally, i have had no sides so far on my cycle except a bit of acne. Blood pressure is fine. I'm not shutdown badly.
I'm up 20 pounds and my bench press is up 40.
Its not for use for anyone under 21, they do convert to steroids in the liver and share the same sides as steroids.
do not think that because its a prohormone, the sides are any less, in fact they are usually worse

[blong]

Ah ha thank you. I wasnt going to take it but was curious as to what exactly it was.

Repped

[Eyayo]

"A guide to the currently available "trens"...

Warning, science content.

all tren compounds are nandrolone based.

19-Norandrosta 4, 9 Diene 3, 17 Dione
Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione
17b-methoxy-trienbolone
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17one

As you can see there are a million ways to write out the nomenclature. Ill start with Estra 4,9 and 19 nor.

Nandrolone is also known as 19nor testosterone from the removal of the nor group at the 19th position. Imagine that
Another way to express that is "Norandrostane" or "estra" So both estra 4,9 and 19 nor andro are the same beginning. Now look at the rest of the chemical nomenclature, theyre the exact same.
So really, 19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione and Estra 4,9 diene 17dione are the exact same thing.

Trenadrol aka 17b methoxy trienbolone is um, different. Effectively take trenbolone (a nandrolone based steroid) and add a methoxy group at the 17 beta position. Thats it. Trenbolone is really tri-en-bolone aka 3 carbon bonds at the 4,9 and 11 position. So 17b methoxy tri-en-bolone makes it a VERY close cousin. So close a cousin that they have almost ALL the same sides.

Now does everyone understand why I said trenadrol is money?

13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one isnt really a "tren." Though a progestin, the 2,5 (10) double carbon bonds dont quite match up. Its closer to norbolethone, though not by a whole lot. Norbolethone is the orally active version of nandrolone which is actually a 17 ethyl (not a typo). The 13 ethyl intensifies anabolic effects. I would make the general assumption that its a totally different designer, active on its own. It has no hepatoxcity thanks to the fact its an ethyl. Sorry I cant offer a lot more on ****'s Max LMG clones."

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/newrep...=1&p=290766881

[blong]

Thank you as well. Repped

[Steel_Colossus]

"A guide to the currently available "trens"...

Warning, science content.

all tren compounds are nandrolone based.

19-Norandrosta 4, 9 Diene 3, 17 Dione
Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione
17b-methoxy-trienbolone
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17one

As you can see there are a million ways to write out the nomenclature. Ill start with Estra 4,9 and 19 nor.

Nandrolone is also known as 19nor testosterone from the removal of the nor group at the 19th position. Imagine that
Another way to express that is "Norandrostane" or "estra" So both estra 4,9 and 19 nor andro are the same beginning. Now look at the rest of the chemical nomenclature, theyre the exact same.
So really, 19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione and Estra 4,9 diene 17dione are the exact same thing.

Trenadrol aka 17b methoxy trienbolone is um, different. Effectively take trenbolone (a nandrolone based steroid) and add a methoxy group at the 17 beta position. Thats it. Trenbolone is really tri-en-bolone aka 3 carbon bonds at the 4,9 and 11 position. So 17b methoxy tri-en-bolone makes it a VERY close cousin. So close a cousin that they have almost ALL the same sides.

Now does everyone understand why I said trenadrol is money?

13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one isnt really a "tren." Though a progestin, the 2,5 (10) double carbon bonds dont quite match up. Its closer to norbolethone, though not by a whole lot. Norbolethone is the orally active version of nandrolone which is actually a 17 ethyl (not a typo). The 13 ethyl intensifies anabolic effects. I would make the general assumption that its a totally different designer, active on its own. It has no hepatoxcity thanks to the fact its an ethyl. Sorry I cant offer a lot more on ****'s Max LMG clones."

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/newrep...=1&p=290766881

you seem to know your stuff.
I have a few questions on the actual science of a trenadrol...
how exactly is it able to be less liver toxic but still remain effective, and convert at such a high %.

[Eyayo]

you seem to know your stuff.
I have a few questions on the actual science of a trenadrol...
how exactly is it able to be less liver toxic but still remain effective, and convert at such a high %.

It has a methoxy bond opposed to a methyl group. Btw, that post i quoted wasnt mine, voo posted it in the thread i linked.

[bryan101b]

the tren compounds do not convert to trenbolone. what most convert to is the steroid dienelone.

the human body doesn't have the ability to make the conversion ("just two molecules away from tren!" as the advertisers tell you)

19-Norandrosta 4, 9 Diene 3, 17 Dione
Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione

^--these two are the same, and convert into the steroid dienelone.

v--- max lmg. a progestin

13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17one

17b-methoxy-trienbolone<---good old fashioned trenbolone. no ester or 17aa methylation attached for bioavailability, but luckily for consumers, trenbolone has better oral availability than nandrolones & test, making them somewhat effective, but nothing compared to injecting it.

but dienelone is a solid steroid with very similar effects/side effects of trenbolone. ams makes an attempt to not mislead you by calling thier tren clone "dienedrol" or something with that sounds like what it converts to, a step in the right direction.

[WhAtNoWbChSs]

sounds like a bunch of bull**** to me. why not just inject the real thing.

[EastCoastHipHop]

sounds like a bunch of bull**** to me. why not just inject the real thing.

this, i dont get why?