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Thread: Bodybuilders... narcissistic?
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02-17-2009, 03:53 PM #31
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02-17-2009, 03:54 PM #32
Difference I see in bodybuilding compared to other stuff is..
You always carry it around.
No matter where you go you'll always carry bodybuilding around with your 24 hours a day, because it's what your body is. You can leave a ball downstairs, in the garage etc, and just leave football etc over there. Just can't do that with BB.
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02-17-2009, 03:58 PM #33
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02-17-2009, 04:11 PM #34
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lmao.
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02-17-2009, 04:19 PM #35
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02-17-2009, 04:21 PM #36
no. a beauty pageant is hardly comparable, the amount of work that goes into bbing sets it aside from something like that. bbers train just as hard as PLers, just differently, then there is the dieting aspect and contest prep.
i dont think of bbing as a sport, or of bbers as "athletes", but they do work hard and it is insulting to compare them to a beauty pageant contestant.
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02-17-2009, 04:47 PM #37
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02-17-2009, 04:50 PM #38
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02-17-2009, 04:56 PM #39
I'd never call myself a bodybuilder anyway. It's not that I feel self conscious about what people would think of me, but it just seems pretty weak to me to call yourself a bodybuilder if you don't compete. It'd be like describing yourself as a stunt biker because you go over some jumps in your back garden
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02-17-2009, 07:52 PM #40
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02-17-2009, 08:24 PM #41
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02-17-2009, 08:26 PM #42
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02-17-2009, 08:41 PM #43
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Bodybuilding... people on stage in skimpy clothes and make-up showing off their looks to judges. Sounds pretty much like a beauty contest to me. Just because the preparation is more rigorous doesn't make it not like a beauty pagent.
I never said they didn't train as hard as anyone else, but I think the comparisons between bodybuilding and beauty pagents are pretty damn clear.
Strut on stage, show your stuff, get judged on how your looks please the judges....Last edited by Kiknskreem; 02-17-2009 at 08:43 PM.
http://youtube.com/user/Kiknskreem
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02-17-2009, 08:41 PM #44
Weak example. I don't think a brain surgeon is an athlete, I also don't think a 400 pound fat guy watching TV with his finger up his ass is an athlete, that doesn't mean I think they're the same.
As far as my opinion goes, I don't know how to class bodybuilding. It's not athletic in the conventional way - it's not an immediate physical thing you're doing, it's a long series of exercises and diet routines which leads up to posing on a stage.
I think it may almost be closer to art. While the weight training is a physical activity, the real goal is to sculpt the human body. If you're going to call it a "sport", then it's the only sport in the world which is based on aesthetics
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02-17-2009, 08:51 PM #45
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02-17-2009, 08:56 PM #46
Bodybuilding isn't really accepted by many people because the normal response that someone makes to a bodybuilder is "roidzzzzz!!!", they think steroids make it extremely easy and they think that like once you start steroids, it will automatically give you boobs, shrink your balls, and will make you die at 40. I think Jay Cutler said something like this too about steroids are the reason people don't accept it.
But oh well, its their loss, when I'm a monster, they will still be their tiny little 100lb self.
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02-17-2009, 09:00 PM #47
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02-17-2009, 09:02 PM #48
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02-17-2009, 09:16 PM #49
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02-17-2009, 09:29 PM #50
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02-17-2009, 09:45 PM #51
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02-17-2009, 10:55 PM #52
And weight lifting's not an arm wresting contest? Pissing contests sound pretty narcissistic...
Anyway, bodybuilding or weightlifting, improving your health and building muscle isn't any more self-serving than getting a degree and good job. Yet those are admirable, respected accomplishments, and worthy goals blah, blah, blah.
So it doesn't look like going to a health club is any more vain than getting an education.
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05-31-2009, 12:51 PM #53
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05-31-2009, 12:54 PM #54
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05-31-2009, 12:57 PM #55For every person who thinks this way, there's someone bb'ing for vanity's sake.
I'm narcisstic.
I would do me."No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.- Socrates
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05-31-2009, 01:10 PM #56
Not male beauty competitions at all.
As for whether we should consider bodybuilding as a sport? Well, I don't really care if it is called a "sport" or we are called "athletes". I'm not trying to be an "athlete", I am a bodybuilder....whether or not that falls into the "athlete" category or not, I don't care.
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05-31-2009, 01:30 PM #57
You make some good points, and I agree with a lot of them. I think the reason is because the general public who doesn't have any insight on the sport and think it just involves consuming roids, etc. and just get big without seeing all the hard work and effort put in. Also, there are so many guidos and whatnot who may have the "bodybuilder look" and these guys clearly are d-bags and give the sport of BBing a bad name. Sure, we lift to get big and look better, but that doesn't mean we are full of ourselves. Personally I lift to see my body progress and strength increase, and change what I can control. Many people are just jealous of bodybuilders thus have to create stereotypes and excuses due to ignorance and laziness. It's funny you mention the argument of considering BBing a sport because I was having an argument with this girl in my class the other day because she was trying to say cheerleading is a sport and I disagreed, so we got out the dictionaries and although the definition of a sport pertains to cheerleading, I still refuse to acknowledge cheerleading as a sport lol
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05-31-2009, 01:30 PM #58
I personally do not consider it a "sport" per say. I really would lean towards it being more of an art form. While a great deal of the work put in is obviously very physical, there isn't really a performance aspect, upping the weight lifted is really just a function of needing more stress and stimulation.
Everyone likes to be strong and I'm sure every bodybuilder in the history of the world sets some sort of strength goals along the way, but it's still not the end goal. It's the same way a soccer player might desire better endurance, but his end goal is to perform well in his position. Our bodybuilder has little goals like that to keep things moving but the final goal is trophy that you get by being the most aesthetically pleasing.
edit: And to chime in on the general public's views. Steroids absolutely play a major factor in how people view any of us. People are convinced by the media that steroids are a cheat that makes it easy to just get huge, they also think it means mantits and shrunken junk. I've met a great deal of people that firmly argue these points and some that even think you don't need to do much, if any work with enough steroids.Last edited by ChaoticReignPbt; 05-31-2009 at 01:32 PM.
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05-31-2009, 01:43 PM #59
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First of all strong bump
vs.
if you don't think they both don't require the same amount of hard work your stupid.
the both use non-natural substances to enhance there physic. They really on genetics and on stage presentation to win.
also everyone knows that every pro bber (IFBB) is on some juic.
and lol @ you saying a bber is an athlete. Just by picking up some weight and making your body look better doesn't make you an athlete, thair are some bber's who are PLer's. A PLer is an athlete.
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05-31-2009, 01:45 PM #60
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