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    Cardio in the morning lifting at night?

    Would it be a good idea to do 30-45 minutes of cardio in the morning 5 days a week, and then lift the same 5 days later in the night?

    I am trying to lose fat, but trying to at least retain as much muscle as possible.
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    Ok sorry Im just gona put a question here in case someone has suggestion

    What is the best time of day to workout?
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    Originally Posted by stevejuice View Post
    Would it be a good idea to do 30-45 minutes of cardio in the morning 5 days a week, and then lift the same 5 days later in the night?

    I am trying to lose fat, but trying to at least retain as much muscle as possible.
    If thats when you have the most energy and if you have the time to do it, then sure. As long as you are eating enough, you should retain muscle, it doesn't have much to do with the length of your workout.

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    Ok sorry Im just gona put a question here in case someone has suggestion

    What is the best time of day to workout?
    The best time to workout is whenever you can do it consistently. If thats in the morning, then cool. If you only have time at night, sure.
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    so all what people say about not eating before morning cardio so that you burn stored fat instead of what you ate isn't true?
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    Originally Posted by stevejuice View Post
    so all what people say about not eating before morning cardio so that you burn stored fat instead of what you ate isn't true?
    It is true, depends on the type of cardio also though.
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    well i plan on doing about 35 minutes of elliptical
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    Well I despise the elliptical so I can't comment

    On a more relevant note, I didn't mean what type of machine. I meant long steady state vs. high intensity intervals
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    Originally Posted by RideOn12 View Post
    Well I despise the elliptical so I can't comment

    On a more relevant note, I didn't mean what type of machine. I meant long steady state vs. high intensity intervals
    What would be best? I use to eat a small bowl of oatmeal before doing 15 minutes of HITT followed by a PWO shake; I couldn't really see doing that without anything in my though. I'm thinking about doing 20-30 minutes of steady state on an empty stomach follow by my PWO shake/meal.
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    I like to lift at night, however when I lift at night I can not fall asleep. After a post workout rest/meal, my whole body gets ramped up. Even if my mind is tired my body is not. I am lucky if I pass out by until 3-4am.
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    Originally Posted by RideOn12 View Post
    Well I despise the elliptical so I can't comment

    On a more relevant note, I didn't mean what type of machine. I meant long steady state vs. high intensity intervals
    long steady
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    Originally Posted by dalessandro12 View Post
    What would be best? I use to eat a small bowl of oatmeal before doing 15 minutes of HITT followed by a PWO shake; I couldn't really see doing that without anything in my though. I'm thinking about doing 20-30 minutes of steady state on an empty stomach follow by my PWO shake/meal.
    Well I'd probably get a lot of crap for saying this, but I do HIIT on an empty stomach. The first method you said, though, sounds like a good one. It's also better to do long steady state on an empty stomach rather than HIIT (I know I just said I do it, but that's just me). However, if you're doing steady state, you should be easily going over 20 minutes and probably over 30. I would say shoot for 35-40minutes minimum
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    generally its said that exercises such as cardio, which are done in order to burn fat are long and low intensity...and exercises such a lifting are done in order to build muscle, and rely on mostly glucose for energy, are short and high intensity
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    do LISS cardio immediately after lifting. reason being is that after heavy lifting, your body's glycogen stores are depleted, and your body will go to fat for energy. it has the same effect as fasted morning cardio. high intensity (170BPM+) and your body will start to eat away at muscle.
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    Originally Posted by stevezor View Post
    do LISS cardio immediately after lifting. reason being is that after heavy lifting, your body's glycogen stores are depleted, and your body will go to fat for energy. it has the same effect as fasted morning cardio. high intensity (170BPM+) and your body will start to eat away at muscle.
    Alot of people I know do this to lose fat nice and slow but how would it affect the body, post workout nutrition if you replenished glycogen or spiked insulin?
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    Originally Posted by stevejuice View Post
    generally its said that exercises such as cardio, which are done in order to burn fat are long and low intensity...and exercises such a lifting are done in order to build muscle, and rely on mostly glucose for energy, are short and high intensity
    Not totally correct. Long low intensity cardio burns more calories from fat (but not necessarily more total calories), but cardio can also be high intensity, which has the same physiological effect as something such as lifting - meaning that high intensity cardio will burn more calories in a shorter time period, but they will come from fat and muscle. Your body will first use glucose as energy, but in higher intensity situations, such as HIIT or lifting, it shifts to anaerobic processes (without oxygen) and will make energy from muscle cells.

    Originally Posted by stevezor View Post
    do LISS cardio immediately after lifting. reason being is that after heavy lifting, your body's glycogen stores are depleted, and your body will go to fat for energy. it has the same effect as fasted morning cardio. high intensity (170BPM+) and your body will start to eat away at muscle.
    ^^ this is true and is a good idea if you want to go with that method. LISS is good in the morning on an empty stomach too, for the same reason. I'm not sure if your glycogen would be quite as depleted after lifting as it is in the morning before eating though. I guess it would depend when you last ate, how much, etc.

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    Just avoid high intensity cardio after lifting as your body might start burning some calories from muscle.
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    Originally Posted by stevejuice View Post
    Would it be a good idea to do 30-45 minutes of cardio in the morning 5 days a week, and then lift the same 5 days later in the night?

    I am trying to lose fat, but trying to at least retain as much muscle as possible.
    I did this for a month. It a drainer. Also your lifts will go down.
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    Originally Posted by BigBoyAdd View Post
    I did this for a month. It a drainer. Also your lifts will go down.
    well i'll have plenty of energy from animal cuts im gonna start to take so im not worried about that aspect
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    Lifting 5 days a week is a bit much. Cardio 5 days a week shouldn't be too bad.
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